12 point flare wrenches?

brettboat · Mar 29, 2014

Do any of the major tool brands (MAC, MATCO, Snapon, ********) sell a 12 point flare wrench set?

Moose-LandTran · Mar 29, 2014

Don't know about American brands, but European ones (Hazet, Elora, Gedore, Stahlwille..) make them in 12-point above 13-14mm.

brettboat · Mar 29, 2014

I need them for SAE MS and AN fittings on aircraft. 6 point doesn't provide engagement in tight spaces. I'll look on the stahlwille website and see if I can find some in SAE...

crewchief888 · Mar 29, 2014

proto may still have them.

i have a couple of 50+ year old 12pt.

:beer:

Wakefield · Mar 29, 2014

Looks like Snap On has 12 point style flarenut in crow's foot. 208AN

Big ones! AN850818B , AN850819B etc.

Set 315AN Big $

brettboat · Mar 29, 2014

I already own the 12 point crows feet from ********. The problem is when I'm in a rats nest of hydraulic and pneumatic lines I can't always use a them... I've seen them before, I'm just trying to figure out who the hell makes them.

tbaggz · Mar 29, 2014

Bonney made some zero offsets.

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LB-1911 · Mar 29, 2014

brettboat said:
I already own the 12 point crows feet from ********. The problem is when I'm in a rats nest of hydraulic and pneumatic lines I can't always use a them... I've seen them before, I'm just trying to figure out who the hell makes them.

Armstrong has ratcheting 12 point wrenches -
http://www.armstrongtools.com/wrenches/flare-nut/sae/metric/torx/sae/drive-type/12-point

http://www.armstrongtools.com/wrenches/flare-nut

bonneyman · Mar 29, 2014

Proto has 12 points with their patented broaching in both SAE and metric - called TorquePlus.

http://www.protoindustrial.com/en/i...tin-Double-End-Flare-Nut-Wrenches---12-Point/

If you need SAE, Bonney's had 12 point flares with their Loc-Rite broaching. See them on ebay all the time. Not made in metric, though.
Here's my set:

brettboat · Mar 29, 2014

I see that Martin Tools makes them... Though I don't know anything about this brand... Input? I really only buy Snapon and MAC

Wakefield · Mar 29, 2014

Wright has some "ratcheting flare nut wrenches 12 point" such as 1650 catalog #
I guess Epstein's has sold their old Bonney 12 point flare wrenches

store.harryepstein.com

Rico. · Mar 29, 2014

Another possible alternative if you're in a pinch is a Crows Foot wrench on a stubby
ratchet... If it's a fine toothed ratchet it can be indexed to almost any angle and sometimes
give you the room you need. Obviously no good if you're height restricted but can often
times work when nothing else will.

But, as has been mentioned, there are 12 point flare wrenches out there... :thumbup:

Conductor562 · Mar 29, 2014

Yes, Proto still has them. J3760T. Like $50 bucks at Zoro

bahcoswed · Mar 29, 2014

I have stahlwille fastratch wrenches! But they doesnt have any 12 point

Likely zero point

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brettboat · Mar 29, 2014

How in the heck does that even work?

cotjocky · Mar 29, 2014

brettboat said:
How in the heck does that even work?

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30369

radrush · Mar 29, 2014

brettboat said:
Do any of the major tool brands (MAC, MATCO, Snapon, ********) sell a 12 point flare wrench set?

Somebody has some on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161206484101?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

NathanB · Mar 29, 2014

Bonney made a nice set, they can still be found on ebay

Ign · Mar 29, 2014

There's also the AP ones on clearance from Northern. They're 12pt but I think that's more due to the ratcheting design. Search the Hot Deals forum (maybe for "Astro") and they may only have the metrics IIRC.

Outlawmws · Mar 29, 2014

How about these? 12 pt, ratcheting and can be opened to use on tubing systems:

http://www.stridetool.com/tools/kwiktite_wrenches/kwiktitewrench_01.html

oldldh · Mar 29, 2014

Outlawmws said:
How about these? 12 pt, ratchetong and can be opened to use on tubing systems....

My son, where do you get these completely "unique, off-the-wall, no one else has ever seen" bizarre stuff??? :dunno:

I've been on this planet for almost 70 years, used tools, of all kinds, for the majority of that time...

And I ain't never seen one of those... :shocking:

My education is obviously lacking... :evil:

Outlawmws · Mar 29, 2014

Well, about 40 years or so of Fleamarkets, yard and estate sales, and buying tools the entire time; and I picked up this nasty habit of buying tools that at times I didn't even know what they were for so long as they were good to best quality, adn cheap.. :evil:

Which is exactly how I found the first one of these, then a second, and frankly I like these better than GearWrench of the flat variety...

I want a set, but I'm also cheap! :lol:

bonneyman · Mar 29, 2014

Or you could try and grab some Utica ratcheting flare wrenches.

bentpushrod · Mar 29, 2014

Granco made a very nice set, if you can find them. I got mine off of ebay for I think 40 bucks.

Conductor562 · Mar 30, 2014

Isn't Granco the company that ended up with a lot of the Bonney tooling?

mailpup · Mar 30, 2014

I have a set of Proto 12 pt. flare nut wrenches, SAE and metric, that has already been mentioned. I also have a set of John Deere brand crowfoot 12 pt. metric flare nut wrenches. The John Deere set is made in Taiwan but I think Stanley is the parent tool company.

bob15 · Mar 30, 2014

Proto set on ebay right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTO-J3700AT-Flare-nut-combo-wrench-set-SAE-12-pt-7-pc-w-case-SAVE-over-50-/151006633678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2328b25ece

Or look for Bonney.....both high quality, as i have both

BDT/NWMN · Mar 30, 2014

brettboat said:
Do any of the major tool brands (MAC, MATCO, Snapon, ********) sell a 12 point flare wrench set?

Young Man, did your computer run out of ink??? :lol:

That is only four names out of dozens of Major Brand Tool names..... not every company puts toolmobiles on the road.... But looking through the postings by Good Folks with some excellent suggestions;;;; Bet you sure know that now. .

bonneyman · Mar 30, 2014

Conductor562 said:
Isn't Granco the company that ended up with a lot of the Bonney tooling?

Yes. When Bonney got sold by Cooper Tools in 1994 or so, Granco Industries bought the dies and pull broaches. They intended to bring back Bonney tools one at a time (one of the company presidents told me on the phone), and actually did re-introduce a few items. But they ran into financial trouble, and I think the Bonney tooling has been sold for scrap.

Steinmetz · Mar 30, 2014

bonneyman said:
Or you could try and grab some Utica ratcheting flare wrenches.

Those were nice. If you can find them

Steinmetz · Mar 30, 2014

bonneyman said:
Yes. When Bonney got sold by Cooper Tools in 1994 or so, Granco Industries bought the dies and pull broaches. They intended to bring back Bonney tools one at a time (one of the company presidents told me on the phone), and actually did re-introduce a few items. But they ran into financial trouble, and I think the Bonney tooling has been sold for scrap.

I think Granco sought bankruptcy protection.

bob15 · Mar 30, 2014

bonneyman said:
Yes. When Bonney got sold by Cooper Tools in 1994 or so, Granco Industries bought the dies and pull broaches. They intended to bring back Bonney tools one at a time (one of the company presidents told me on the phone), and actually did re-introduce a few items. But they ran into financial trouble, and I think the Bonney tooling has been sold for scrap.

It couldn't have been everything because Snap On bought the Bonney name and much of their equipment. Snap On (corporate) informed me of this around 1998-99 after calling them about it (wasn't much on the 'net for tool history back then). If you were to look at the brand names owned, you will find that Snap On owns the Bonney name....and I believe they also own LocRite name and design.

One person who might know more would a gentleman by the name of John Garner. He used to be on the old Tool Talk website of the late 90's and was a wealth of tool history.

bob

bonneyman · Mar 30, 2014

Steinmetz said:
Those were nice. If you can find them

Yes they are! :rocker:

Just used the 1/2"er on an encrusted brass compression nut, and it ratcheting that thing right off. I doubt a regular OE wrench would have fit without serious cleaning first.

bonneyman · Mar 30, 2014

bob15 said:
It couldn't have been everything because Snap On bought the Bonney name and much of their equipment. Snap On (corporate) informed me of this around 1998-99 after calling them about it (wasn't much on the 'net for tool history back then). If you were to look at the brand names owned, you will find that Snap On owns the Bonney name....and I believe they also own LocRite name and design.

One person who might know more would a gentleman by the name of John Garner. He used to be on the old Tool Talk website of the late 90's and was a wealth of tool history.

bob

That is possible. The gentleman I spoke with talked as if he had wrench and socket tooling on hand. (And those were all I was interested in). Bonney made a whole lot of other hand tools - I don't know if Granco snagged that tooling.
IIRC, Epstein's was offered the tooling from Granco before it was scrapped. But I think that was a bit outside their business model.

Nortonscustom · Mar 30, 2014

I picked up the Proto set of 12 flare nut wrenches a while back. Been really happy with them so far.

brettboat · Mar 30, 2014

radrush said:
Somebody has some on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161206484101?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Ended up picking these up. Figured it was a good deal for a full set.

bob15 · Mar 30, 2014

brettboat said:
Ended up picking these up. Figured it was a good deal for a full set.

Those will work just fine....they are pre-Bonney in age, but are the same wrench that later production will have "Bonney" on. Loc-Rite is the original "flank drive" or "lobular" box end.

bonneyman · Mar 30, 2014

brettboat said:
Ended up picking these up. Figured it was a good deal for a full set.

Looks like the set i picked up for a buddy some years ago. You will love them on damaged fasteners and in tight areas.

brettboat · Mar 30, 2014

Yea, apparently the set I got is not common at all... Some kind of gift given to Chrysler dealership mechanics back in like the late 1950s or early 1960s.

Too bad I'm a Ford man, only thing good Chrysler ever did was put a Cummins in their trucks. hahaha, I'm horrible

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