I have a 12x12x6 weatherproof junction box for all my pool electronics that I need a new lid for. 2 of the corners are cracked. Anyone know if I can buy just a lid? Menards has the whole box for $50, but I just want the lid.
12x12 PVC Box Lid
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Menards doesn't list the manufacturer on the website. Home Depot lists one as either Carlan or Cantex, but someone asked the same question on the HomeDepot website already and were told no. I just thought the pro's on here might have a source. I'll pull the lid off later and see if it has Manufacturer info inside.
Chuckster in NJ
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I would replace the whole box especially if the pvc box is old.
Not worth the time aggravation, gamble on the fit and shipping cost to find just a cover.……. That’s if you can find a cover and gasket that fits.
Not worth the time aggravation, gamble on the fit and shipping cost to find just a cover.……. That’s if you can find a cover and gasket that fits.
I'm not replacing the whole box unless absolutely necessary. It has all kinds of wiring running in and out that would need unhooked and reconnected. The box itself is fine. I just overtightened the screws and cracked the cover corners. I can buy the exact box with lid, so I guess I'll do that and trash the box.
toplessHO
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paint will help with the UV
I agree with OP that replacement of box could be a PITA
Chuckster in NJ
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Wondering how the OP made out with the "PVC box cover search" 
david3921
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How do you know what box the OP has?
david3921
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He said he bought it at Menards and said it was $50. This is the only 12 x 12 x 6 junction box at my store. The picture at the link below is not correct for the box they have. The model number, BPF01703, matches the label above on it, however.
Chuckster in NJ
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david3921
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Pictured here in a previous post. If you zoom in you can see the cracks the OP is talking about.
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Waterproof Exterior Junction Box
I am automating two deck fountains on my pool. I have a 4 channel Sonoff in the large gray box on the wall in the picture. One channel triggers a contactor for the pump, one channel turns on the light and the last two channels are going to activate 24 volt transformers that open the pictured...
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Yeah, that one doesn't look the same. Unfortunately I didn't install it myself, my pool installers did, so I don't know exactly where they got it. I thought it was the Menards one, but now I'm not sure. I guess I need to go look at that one and the one at Home Depot and maybe some of the local electrical supply companies and see if I can match it or not. Replacing the box is always an option, but that requires unhooking all the wires and removing all the conduit connections. Then reinstalling it all. The cracks don't effect the box at all and since I can orient both at the bottom, I'm not worried about water. I was just thinking about adding indicator lights into the cover and thought it would be smart to start with a fresh, uncracked lid before I started the modifications.
mike93lx
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Is there a profile along the interior edge of the cover or is it just flat with a gasket?
If it's just flat, I'd consider drawing it up at send cut send and have them cut one out of aluminum. Perfect time to add your indicator lights
If it's just flat, I'd consider drawing it up at send cut send and have them cut one out of aluminum. Perfect time to add your indicator lights
There is a channel along the back of the cover with the gasket inside. This is the closest picture I can find of what it looks like online. Mine doesn't have the brass inserts for the screws though.
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Chuckster in NJ
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OR a tig welder and brake to make a new aluminum box and cover.
mike93lx
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Both are acceptableOR a tig welder and brake to make a new aluminum box and cover.
nadogail
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Buy both a Bridgeport and a 3D printer, that way you won’t have to worry about finding that odd plastic part to fix whatever.
Prepared to have it listed by a NRTL?
yatg
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Get some metal corners, slather them with PL, clamp and wait to dry, drill new holes through the corners, clean up and repaint.
Or consider a few stainless steel fender washers between screw head and pvc.
BTW, the new box you mentioned above getting pitched in the garbage makes a great parts bin, etc.
Crazyjake8493
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So far we haven't had luck finding just a cover for the 8"x8" Carlon PVC boxes. There's one at work and the lid keeps getting smashed so we buy another box just for the lid. We must have a half dozen lid-less boxes on the workbench just holding loose parts.
Maybe fix the reason it keeps getting smashed?
reader2580
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Who makes a 12" x 12" metallic outdoor junction box that seals out the elements as well as a PVC box and won't rust/corrode?
It is silly to use most metal conduit and such outdoors in Minnesota. PVC isn't perfect either, but at least it doesn't rust through. I have seen plenty of examples locally of metal conduit rusted out completely with the wires exposed. I used some 1-1/2 EMT on the side of my house, and I can't believe it hasn't rusted yet after five winters outside. I didn't want a long horizontal run of PVC to sag. I couldn't afford to use rigid, nor did I want to hire an electrician with the proper tools ( threader) to install it.
Put bollards in front of the box.