Erevojoe
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Ok, I could spend hours explaining why or just skip to the point. I live on my wife's family property and it doesn't look like we will be moving any time soon. I assure u it's not cause I don't work or cause I'm hooked on meth. Before I moved here I supported myself very well and worked for a Fortune 500 company. We were in Florida and I was a special test mechanic for a major motorcycle manufacture. I took a diffent job with the e same company to move back to Alabama so my wife (and kid on the way) could have a little more time with her parents (of whom one had very little time to live). While here,the economy collapsed and the company layed most people off and moved out of Alabama. Since then, it's been hard times. I took a job at the local oil change cause it paid better than wrenching on bikes. It's a shame but I can make more money outside of the motorcycle world than in.
Anyway, like I said, not going to kill time explaining
I've been living with a very small shop that is an I closed porch build off a little portable building for about 8 years and I've out grown it, the loose brick flooring just can't handle the 600lbs lathe and its packed so full I have to drag the band saw outside if I want o use anything in there. Since my father in law is still ailve( 10 years after being given 2 years to live) he has been opposed to be increasing the size or building something else. After i spent most of this year rebuilding his farm equipment for free(I wouldn't have charged him even if we didn't live here) I think he has figered out we are here to help him not cause we can't live alone. We pay rent and utilities after all. He changed his mind.
Now I decided a few years back to just walk away from motorcycles cause Alabama doesn't pay well. My first job as an entry level tech in 1997 paid $19.50 an hour in Texas, in 2010 the local shop said they pay 12:50. Shameful.
But, every person I run into hates there mechanic and would love to find a professional so I'm looking at starting up part time, if I can build a building. Something that doesn't have to live forever. If I'm successful enough, I'll ind an actual shop to rent, if I'm not making enough money to quit my day job, then it's over. I don't know if I'll ever own this property or not. Oh and one other thing, my son has a more serious version of the asgburger than myself and as he gets older it appears he might not be going to college and branching out on his own so I need a trade I can teach him and help him get started before I pass away. Blaa blaa blaa, what's this got to do with a building? Nothing, let's move on....
Plan was to put up 4x4x10 posts at eight foot spacing. Total building 12x16, basic flat roof with enough angle to keep the water off it. 4" thick slab. Outside of walls covered with 11/32 pine sheet. Basic 2x4 framing with anchored sill plate (treated) metal roofing. My stepdad family builts metal buildings (like Walmart) so I grew up working concrete and have some building experience, but not an expert by any means. But I just realized that pole barn poles are set 4' deep. That's going to put a real kink in my budget and take more than I've got to dig. So here is the question.
If I'm anchoring to a slab (the footers of the slab will be 6" deeper) do I even need poles at the corners and middle of each wall? Or at least since I'm anchoring the walls, can I get away with 20" depth of the poles, I was going to set them first in concrete and then come back and lay the slab.
I've heard that the slap shouldn't touch the poles and I've heard that u want the poles in the slab.
Either way, I know this is is a little bit under engineered, but I've got to have the slab poured before the weather gets cold and I'd like to have the shop "open by appointment only" by the time people start dusting off the bikes next spring. Budget is so tight, u don't even want to know. I'm buying parts as overtime clears the bank. Personal Motorcycles are for sale at this point. Oh and last point. No building code out here. Atleast for land owners building non lived in stuff. A contractor building a new house, I'm sure someone has to get paid for a blueprint and inspections and permits...
Anyway, like I said, not going to kill time explaining
I've been living with a very small shop that is an I closed porch build off a little portable building for about 8 years and I've out grown it, the loose brick flooring just can't handle the 600lbs lathe and its packed so full I have to drag the band saw outside if I want o use anything in there. Since my father in law is still ailve( 10 years after being given 2 years to live) he has been opposed to be increasing the size or building something else. After i spent most of this year rebuilding his farm equipment for free(I wouldn't have charged him even if we didn't live here) I think he has figered out we are here to help him not cause we can't live alone. We pay rent and utilities after all. He changed his mind.
Now I decided a few years back to just walk away from motorcycles cause Alabama doesn't pay well. My first job as an entry level tech in 1997 paid $19.50 an hour in Texas, in 2010 the local shop said they pay 12:50. Shameful.
But, every person I run into hates there mechanic and would love to find a professional so I'm looking at starting up part time, if I can build a building. Something that doesn't have to live forever. If I'm successful enough, I'll ind an actual shop to rent, if I'm not making enough money to quit my day job, then it's over. I don't know if I'll ever own this property or not. Oh and one other thing, my son has a more serious version of the asgburger than myself and as he gets older it appears he might not be going to college and branching out on his own so I need a trade I can teach him and help him get started before I pass away. Blaa blaa blaa, what's this got to do with a building? Nothing, let's move on....
Plan was to put up 4x4x10 posts at eight foot spacing. Total building 12x16, basic flat roof with enough angle to keep the water off it. 4" thick slab. Outside of walls covered with 11/32 pine sheet. Basic 2x4 framing with anchored sill plate (treated) metal roofing. My stepdad family builts metal buildings (like Walmart) so I grew up working concrete and have some building experience, but not an expert by any means. But I just realized that pole barn poles are set 4' deep. That's going to put a real kink in my budget and take more than I've got to dig. So here is the question.
If I'm anchoring to a slab (the footers of the slab will be 6" deeper) do I even need poles at the corners and middle of each wall? Or at least since I'm anchoring the walls, can I get away with 20" depth of the poles, I was going to set them first in concrete and then come back and lay the slab.
I've heard that the slap shouldn't touch the poles and I've heard that u want the poles in the slab.
Either way, I know this is is a little bit under engineered, but I've got to have the slab poured before the weather gets cold and I'd like to have the shop "open by appointment only" by the time people start dusting off the bikes next spring. Budget is so tight, u don't even want to know. I'm buying parts as overtime clears the bank. Personal Motorcycles are for sale at this point. Oh and last point. No building code out here. Atleast for land owners building non lived in stuff. A contractor building a new house, I'm sure someone has to get paid for a blueprint and inspections and permits...