1966 F100 EcoBoost Engine Swap (EcoBoosted)

[TimeWarpF100]

So what's this fuel economy test you speak of? I have 2000 Powerstroke...the best I get is about 18.4 at 70 mph. I'm looking for more.

Ford VCM/VMM scan tools hooked to a laptop.

What gear ratio do you have and is it a 4x4?

Local driving I just checked today and with a pretty heavy foot got 16.97mpg on last tank. If I drive it "nice" in local driving will get close to 20mpg.

Highway speeds 80-85mph get right @ 18mpg

As soon as I slow it down under 70mph the mileage really goes up.

70mph will get me 21~22mpg

If I slow it down to 60mph I will get 24+ My best tank ever was between 50 and up to 60mph without going over 60 for entire tank That was 24.78MPG of course the only time I ever tried.

Using the laptop with Ford's MPG meter I was seeing 27+ @ 50mph That was actually hard to believe as have never driven a tank driving that slow but some day would like to try it. I do know if I keep the rpm under 2000 at any time during tank it will help a lot. I just do not have the patience for normal driving to do it for an entire tank.

The 24.78mpg was before mods but with tuner. Now I find if I drive it super nice I get quite a bit better mileage than stock but with a little heavier foot get worse than stock.

I would like to add a gear vendors OD and am sure that would really help especially with speeds over 70mph.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

This past week was spent trying to make room in shop with some cleaning and organizing and re-arranging the semi trailer to make more room in workshop.

Late last night I was able to finally get the new frame and the 2011 Eco frame with engine & trans into shop. So another week done with no work on project and am hoping I will have some spare time to start swapping components this week. The AZ Sun is killing things that have been left outside.

I had re-done inside the garage too with sheetrock, insulation & paint and of course had to add that "ORANGE" stripe to the walls, put up a few metal cabinets, added some much needed lighting. Now the darkest spot in garage is 200 on the light meter. Good office brightness is 100 on the scale.

When I added the 4 2'x8' skylights that really helped too.
Now I have to un~bury my desk and a bit more cleanup so I can start back on
"EcoBoosted"

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Here's a cool tuning tool I was looking at:

http://www.sctflash.com/products.php?PID=65&VID=

You've got everything else, might as well get this too!

NEAT! Once I get it up and running will have to look into that!

 

[fergus]

Well mine is a 2wd with a 6 speed and 3.73 rear end. I should be doing much better then based on your numbers.

 

[FINLEEtryNit]

I feel your pain. Moved to NC from WI last year. Bought a '01 Izusu 26'boxed truck and made three trips. Looking to sell the Isuzu now. Sold all my toys (T-bird, Skyliner, 2 Unibodies, Capri racer, Sunbeam Alpine, 2 tractors) at auction. Never do that! My two bay shop w/ lift is gone. The only project I brought is a rust free '62 Alpine. I want to put a 1.6 Ecoboost in it. I can help you become the Ecoboost Czar if you can help me hook the 1.6EB up to a 5 or 6 spd rear drive transmission. You furnish the parts, I do the work. Win Win. You accomplish more in a day than I can even think through.
Now get back to work, hundreds are waiting.
Oh, rather than relocate the rearend, why not clip a little off the front of the box and cheat it ahead?
Rick

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Its been from 110~112 for past week or so. Just plain too hot to work outside!
Still hoping to get the driveline swap done next week if I can make more room in shop.

Could use a little help with my Contest entry.

1 vote per person per day is allowed.

http://www.wiltonamericanmuscle.com/vise-stories/entries/story/default.aspx?id=NzMz-KJuYGpwCeIE=

 

[DFW-LSX]

EcoBoosted:
Replacement truck 2012 300.00 ! AZ truck to boot.

Wait...you got the ecoboost donor for $300.00?!?! If so YOU ****! And how far are you from Yuma? Ill be out that way from the begginning of Sept-mid Oct, I could lend a hand on the weekends if your not too far away.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Wait...you got the ecoboost donor for $300.00?!?! If so YOU ****! And how far are you from Yuma? Ill be out that way from the begginning of Sept-mid Oct, I could lend a hand on the weekends if your not too far away.

The 300.00 Replacement truck is for the 66. Replacement for one my dad gave me years ago and sold for 100.00. (dad bought it new)

This eco 2011 F150 I paid 3250.00 for the complete truck plus approx 700.00 in taxes, fee's and fuel to get it.

I have said that a few times already but am taking week off from everything else next week to work on the ecoproject.

 

[jim bremner]

Why didn't you just narrow the new chassis to the '66 spec? Awsume JOB!

 

[60_Starliner]

Definitely Subscribing to this. I was thinking of doing the Coyote 5.0 on my 73 F100 but can't justify the cost with a excellent running 73 302(5.0) under the hood right now. Love seeing this kind of stuff. Keep up the good work.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Why didn't you just narrow the new chassis to the '66 spec? Awsume JOB!

That would be a ton of work... Engine would not fit, front suspension, rear axle mounting and about everything else. Took only a few hours to mod the cab.

Definitely Subscribing to this. I was thinking of doing the Coyote 5.0 on my 73 F100 but can't justify the cost with a excellent running 73 302(5.0) under the hood right now. Love seeing this kind of stuff. Keep up the good work.

I bought this entire truck for what a decent 302 would cost. Bigger initial investment but by the time I bought a trans etc it was the only way to fly!

 

[George in Rancho Cordova]

When done, always refer to it as a 1966 truck and nothing about the "update". You do not want to get caught up in having to register it as a 2011!

 

[FINLEEtryNit]

Re: 1966 F100 EcoBoost Engine Swap (EcoBoosted)

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Its been from 110~112 for past week or so. Just plain too hot to work outside!
Still hoping to get the driveline swap done next week if I can make more room in shop.

Could use a little help with my Contest entry.

1 vote per person per day is allowed.

http://www.wiltonamericanmuscle.com/...KJuYGpwCeIE=

Maybe you need an IT person to get the computer to come up with another seven thousand votes to get you in the running.

 

[Az Scooter]

How about an IT person that can post a link correctly?

 

[HOTFR8]

When done, always refer to it as a 1966 truck and nothing about the "update". You do not want to get caught up in having to register it as a 2011!

That would depend if the chassis number is used or not . Your regulations are very different to Australia .

 

[TimeWarpF100]

How about an IT person that can post a link correctly?

http://www.wiltonamericanmuscle.com/vise-stories/entries/story/default.aspx?id=NzMz-KJuYGpwCeIE=

 

[FINLEEtryNit]

Hello, Hello, is this thing working?

 

[Oggy]

Damn, I thought there was an update on the progress...

 

[Adam McLaughlin]

Me too!

Adam

 

[warpedredneck]

me three!

 

[oilslick]

Can't wait to see this baby smokin tires, man I am a Chevy lover but that ecoboost is an *** kicker with no competition, I bet a retune running race fuel and open exhaust she could really cook when needed.

 

[rogue190`]

wow just found this thread and read it start to finish, amazing! subscribed.

 

[mayday0017]

Really neat project, with using the new frame and the suspension and drive train. I have to ask would a different donor truck saved some time and money? Looks like a lot of new parts (some of which are very costly).

Either way looks like a cool project and some quality work going into it! Can't wait to see more!!!

 

[Boyd]

I did very little research and measurements because if I found too much negative for doing the swap I probably would not have attempted it.

Reminds me of, appropriately, a Henry Ford quote: “Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal.”


Love the project. Keep cool and Godspeed.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Hello, Hello, is this thing working?

Damn, I thought there was an update on the progress...

Me too!

Adam

me three!

Can't wait to see this baby smokin tires, man I am a Chevy lover but that ecoboost is an *** kicker with no competition, I bet a retune running race fuel and open exhaust she could really cook when needed.

wow just found this thread and read it start to finish, amazing! subscribed.

Really neat project, with using the new frame and the suspension and drive train. I have to ask would a different donor truck saved some time and money? Looks like a lot of new parts (some of which are very costly).


Either way looks like a cool project and some quality work going into it! Can't wait to see more!!!

This truck was almost a giveaway for the parts I can utilize. I paid 3250.00 for the entire truck. Dmg to the parts I needed was basically to the rear axle assy which I was able to buy all new for less than what a used one would cost. Most of these trucks are going for 7k + with a lot more damage and usually hit in front. Ford does not produce a EcoBoost F150 regular cab short bed or even a regular cab in any configuration so the reason I purchased the 2012 F150 Reg Cab Frame. It cost a lot less than one might think. There are enough good parts that I do not need that will probably get me back at least 50% of my original cost.

Reminds me of, appropriately, a Henry Ford quote: “Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal.”


Love the project. Keep cool and Godspeed.

Thanks to all for the continued interest! It has been a solid 2 months or more since I have touched the project. Once the outside temps start hitting 105deg plus it made it difficult. Just yesterday I started to move things around in shop to make room for the old chassis to new chassis parts swap.
Today looks like the day I can start the swap! I just need to keep a small bay open in case my own daily driver breaks down etc. In order to have room to put both frames along side each other and room for the cherry picker to move around along with room to set the engine and trans on floor during the swap It pretty much takes up the entire workspace. Even then I have a lot of stuff outside that really should not be.

Summer vacations etc for friends this time of year before the kids go back to school (next week) have not had any help to do the swap. So I plan on starting the swap by myself to see if I can gain interest of some of them to help.

I had planned on building a larger garage but that is just not going to happen for a long time so need to make some progress with the facility I do have and just make the best of it. Getting old too and the energy and brain power is going away. Trying to get started again after so long is the tough part.

My other F100 project is soooo close to that next big step of making it driveable so I may switch projects but need to at least get this one a rolling chassis with cab sitting in place.

I need to skip back thru these pages to see if I have made any headway since my last real update.

 

[jrherald420]

No way would you catch me outside wrenching on something in 100 degree heat, hell my cut off for outside in the sun wrenching is 85. Any warmer and ive got to have some shade or bad things happen to me.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

I just looked back and it appears the last time I worked on project was around May 10th! Do not know where that 3 months went but think it is time to make some progress!

A bit of shuffling around in garage to make room then the engine and trans along with suspension goes into the new Frame.

Will attempt to get some photo's.

With the 2nd A/C unit in shop its now a balmy 78deg but for some reason high humidity around 71% and that is with a HUGE de-humidifier running constant.

 

[shocar]

An amazing project to be sure. I stumbled on the thread just today and the similarity to the SN95 was really cool.... had to review the entire thing. Thanks for all the great coverage and pics of this project.

I've had plans to do a eco Mustang swap for about a year now. Major issue is finding a salvage truck (2wd) as a doner. I've kept up on all the auction sites and my experience is without a salvage dealers license, it's nearly impossible to purchase one of these trucks or the drivetrain at a reasonable price. The bidding on a couple of wrecked vehicles in TX went over 15K each. In this area the engines alone are posted at $3-4K so I am totally blown away that you were able purchase an entire vehicle for $3200. (You've gotta tell me where you shop!)

Please post an update as soon as you can. I can't wait to see the latest progress and good luck!

 

[Adam McLaughlin]

Hey lets see the Mustang Eco Boost too! Impressed

Adam

 

[TimeWarpF100]

An amazing project to be sure. I stumbled on the thread just today and the similarity to the SN95 was really cool.... had to review the entire thing. Thanks for all the great coverage and pics of this project.

I've had plans to do a eco Mustang swap for about a year now. Major issue is finding a salvage truck (2wd) as a doner. I've kept up on all the auction sites and my experience is without a salvage dealers license, it's nearly impossible to purchase one of these trucks or the drivetrain at a reasonable price. The bidding on a couple of wrecked vehicles in TX went over 15K each. In this area the engines alone are posted at $3-4K so I am totally blown away that you were able purchase an entire vehicle for $3200. (You've gotta tell me where you shop!)

Please post an update as soon as you can. I can't wait to see the latest progress and good luck!

I have found 16 trucks under 7500.00 that YOU can buy. Send me a pm & I will tell you how. This is "before" the normal junk yards get them. You are correct the engine by iteself is usually around 4k, but be aware they strip off a lot of the good and expensive stuff. The only stand-alone harness I am aware of exceeds 10k to buy. Complete truck is the only way to fly.

All you need is a fully refundable deposit of 10% of your final bid price. I have heard horror stories or read about them online but my transaction went very smooth. A few key things you need to know before hand. I bought mine sight unseen with very little info. Could not be happier with the purchase.

The engine complete from ford is $15,980.94

Trans is 5,118.76

Basic engine harnesses

Harness 1 is 1189.23

Harness 2 is 577.77

Intercooler 345.73

Radiator 631.14

cooling fan 335.40

Basic PCM is 650.12

What about ABS? and also TCM.

Are you aware without a stand alone harness you will have to use all wiring from a F150 along with steering sensors etc? Also the column and a lot more just to get it to start.

Not my ideal way to do this as it all adds far more weight than I would like but as of now.

The basic parts that go with engine less trans could set you back 10k.

I was tempted to do a 5.0 Coyote as you can go to ford and buy the electronics package.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

After a Super LONG 2 month wait since I have had a chance to work on the Ecoboost project today was the day! A few friends showed up to help this afternoon and we were able to get the shop shuffled around enough to fit both frames on side of each other, remove pretty much everything from the original frame and start to install parts into the new frame. Of course good cleaning was first. A few pics to show what we started with and what was done. The shop is still a total mess because there just is not much room for everything in shop.

 

[Lomotil]

Still following... Can't wait to see the future progress of this...

 

[TimeWarpF100]

 

[TimeWarpF100]

This is where it ended up @ end of day. FINALLY some progress after the 2 long months of waiting. For sure a motivation boost too! Thanks to my friends that showed up to help!

 

[TimeWarpF100]

For cleaning prior to parts install all I am doing is giving the parts a spray of my MAGIC soap and a quick rinse they are cleaning up nicely. Spindles and one motor mount have some surface rust, I cleaned the motor mount but still need to clean up the spindles. They are super cheap to buy new . . . If I had the time (or could always do it at a later date) I would have them powder coated. For the most part I am very impressed with how FoMoCO put this thing together and at the ease of swapping parts.

 

[shocar]

Adam ...emphasize.... planning at this stage, would love to have as many parts on the shop floor as we're seeing here.

(On the latest shots)
Must be an awful lot to steering a car or truck these days, look at the size of the power steering rack....The thing is huge!

Thanks for the update pics

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Adam ...emphasize.... planning at this stage, would love to have as many parts on the shop floor as we're seeing here.

(On the latest shots)
Must be an awful lot to steering a car or truck these days, look at the size of the power steering rack....The thing is huge!

Thanks for the update pics

It looks HUGE because it's electronic and weights about what a normal gear box would. Its going to be fun trying to get all electronics to work properly for sure.

 

[HOTFR8]

Having the two chassis side by side will make your project much easier.

 

[TimeWarpF100]

Another quick update: Rear axle is now in, pretty much all the suspension and steering is done except for final Torquing once it is at normal ride height.

Gave the engine and trans a quick splash of my "MAGIC SOAP" last night and a quick rinse and it looks good enough to drop in the chassis now . . .

I need to find some tires to install on the Lariat wheels so I can get the chassis back on ground before I drop in the engine and trans. I want a lower profile tire to make it look a bit better and other reason for a tire change is the speed rating.

Anyone use Nitto tires? I am thinking on going with the Nitto 255/55R-18 vs the stock 265/60R-18 they will be about a 1 1/2" lower profile and of course will have a VR speed rating too. I just need to see total effect on the gear ratio. I can get into the PCM with my laptop and change the tire size for correct speed.

I was hoping to go to a wider tire but not much is made without going taller too.

 

[jrherald420]

So clean!!! lol