Doylee4693
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Ive seen this multiple times in this thread.. people drooling over seemingly useless shyt.. oh well, that’s what makes us tool heads I guess.
2021 Garage Sale Thread
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cmccuist1
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Couple more nice scores from the weekend:
A Zyliss multi-purpose, Swiss made clamp ($5)
Leatherman Super Tool ($7)
Half dozen compound bows, some left-handed which I can use ($3 each)
Inside one of the $1 tool boxes were several hammer wrenches
Inside another $1 tool box was some lathe tooling with carbide brazed cutting ends
A Milwaukee (model 6830) sheet metal shear that will actually cut 10 gauge. I haven't seen that one before ($10)
A wooden box full of 2 dozen Easton arrows with broadhead tips ($10)
A really heavy duty Black and Decker 7"/9" grinder ($10)
Pretty happy with the haul from this last weekend.
A Zyliss multi-purpose, Swiss made clamp ($5)
Leatherman Super Tool ($7)
Half dozen compound bows, some left-handed which I can use ($3 each)
Inside one of the $1 tool boxes were several hammer wrenches
Inside another $1 tool box was some lathe tooling with carbide brazed cutting ends
A Milwaukee (model 6830) sheet metal shear that will actually cut 10 gauge. I haven't seen that one before ($10)
A wooden box full of 2 dozen Easton arrows with broadhead tips ($10)
A really heavy duty Black and Decker 7"/9" grinder ($10)
Pretty happy with the haul from this last weekend.
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Mr. Wonderful
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Cmccuist1,
Nice haul! I have that same B&D grinder. It is an absolute beast!
Nice haul! I have that same B&D grinder. It is an absolute beast!
Well, I'm very new to this, and sometimes guys like to play "Guess the Gem" with something truly valuable buried in the pile of rust, so I was truly wondering what I missed.
I did read some threads about the Williams ratchets, some guys really love them.
Mike
engineer2
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Thanks for all the replies! That's what I was thinking; $1 for larger tools, 50 cents for smaller ones, let's make a deal for quantities.
None are pristine or antique, so no appeal to collectors.
A few years ago I had one tool buyer all weekend, and the next year no one even looked at the tools.
Old Radar
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steaks&anvils
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just put a sign on it saying: "gun tools"...
engineer2
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Very few DIY-ers in suburbia.
"We don't get our hands dirty, we call someone."
"just put a sign on it saying: "gun tools"..."
In our area I would be browbeaten by Karens. But it would be funny to try it.
"We don't get our hands dirty, we call someone."
"just put a sign on it saying: "gun tools"..."
In our area I would be browbeaten by Karens. But it would be funny to try it.
steaks&anvils
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Seriously, how many garage sales say "tools" and only have baby clothes and toys?
Private Lugnutz
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Or the tools are rakes and shovels and towels from the shed. One of several reasons I stopped everything but flea markets.
engineer2
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Or the "tools" are a clapped out B&D drill with no chuck key and an assortment of crusty painting tools.
Ventured over to Leesport Flea this morning. $18 (plus gas and road construction both ways) brought back a Mossberg 1/2dr extruded set, some consumable blades, 4 box corners, Stanley Standard & Atha ballpeins, 3 bitbrace tools, WWI-ish U.S. mess knife, BoyScouts stainless folding fork/bottle-opener, Plomb LA 1/2dr speeder, Plomb & Proto screwdrivers, Snap-on No1 1/2dr ell w 1929 date code, Stanley 100+ pocket clip screwdriver and small faceless hammer, furniture key, Utica dikes, unmarked clamp, BMC grips (currently frozen). I saw a second (working) BMC, but seller wanted $10, so no.
Old Radar
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Because it's always more satisfying to fix one bought broken and cheap than to buy a pricey one and break it!
Private Lugnutz
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What size is it? And what size was the one you left behind!? I might have gone $10 just to break my No. 7 streak. I've found three of them in the wild - all No. 7! It's close to infuriating. As long as we're on the subject, I made this plea in the Botnick thread, too - if anyone has an extra No. 5, No. 9, or No. 11 and needs a No. 7, I would be eager to trade.
Went to get my hair cut today, so I swung by the Restore and a thrift shop, and while waiting my turn, checked Craigslist and found a treasure:
A Winchester screwdriver and Millers Falls push drill, the latter having all of its bits. The books are Djuna Barnes' Nightwood, an underground classic, and Steinbeck's first novel, Cup of Gold. Of course, the Steinbeck is a later printing as the first run had barely 1,500 copies sold. And the Craigslist find was this nice little router plane made by Veritas.
A Winchester screwdriver and Millers Falls push drill, the latter having all of its bits. The books are Djuna Barnes' Nightwood, an underground classic, and Steinbeck's first novel, Cup of Gold. Of course, the Steinbeck is a later printing as the first run had barely 1,500 copies sold. And the Craigslist find was this nice little router plane made by Veritas.
Private Lugnutz
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Sweet.
It's so strange. They must have made more of them than the others. That's an early one. PAT PEND. No model number.
Old Radar
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Just like mine. They must have flooded the market with them after applying for the patent.
Private Lugnutz
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RTM
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Went to get my hair cut today, so I swung by the Restore and a thrift shop, and while waiting my turn, checked Craigslist and found a treasure:
And the Craigslist find was this nice little router plane made by Veritas.
Sweet, now you just need the rest of the miniature plane set. They are quite cool, and functional.
Yes! In fact the second one I saw was ALSO stamped patent applied for.
I can imagine a few possible reasons we’ve seen more of this size:
The original invention was in response to a need best served by this size (clearance, for instance).
The manufacturer anticipated a larger market for this size (related to reason one above), so focused on producing more.
Consumers, to try out the product at the lowest investment level, purchased the model offered at the lowest price point. As a sort of corollary, the 7” model could have been manufactured and distributed on prospectis.
Larger models were subjected to greater abuse, so have not survived in proportunate numbers.
In any case, it seems clear to me that they never penetrated the market establishblished by Petersen in a big way. The Asian knockoffs are nonexistent, and you don’t hear anyone say, “hand me those BMCs” as a generic term, but rather “visegrips.”
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Private Lugnutz
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I concur with this. We've never pursued it empirically on the Botnick thread, or elsewhere, and probably don't have a large enough sample size, but given enough examples, we could determine if the expansion to the other sizes followed the initial production of the 7 inch no model number PAT PEND tool by seeing if any other sizes show up no model number and PAT PEND, or if the expansion came later, after the patent was granted, necessitating model numbers to distinguish the sizes.
Of course not. None of the other US locking plier-wrenches did, but collecting 'Not-Petersens', as I like to call them, is much more interesting (who do you root for, David or Goliath?), and there are strong arguments for some of them being superior, including B.M.C., for the precision and the squaring jaws. I like them all for peculiar reasons, and all for one common reason - that they're not Petersen, but none have a backstory that comes close to B.M.C. The guy owned a Chevy car dealership and couldn't find a suitable locking plier-wrench for his own shop, so he made his own! Nobody who wants a DeLorean wants it because it dominated the market.
Private Lugnutz
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That Bonney DOE in the front is a 585-18. Once I found that, I had to scour the rest of the guys boxes looking for the elusive 585-4, burning 20 minutes, with no luck. The rest of the small haul (Lugz 2021_38) includes a Hinsdale rocker rat, KING **** DOE wrench, Plomb electrical wrench, Barc-Buff tappet, and Waldes-Truarc No. 26 snap ring pliers.
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Doylee4693
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8” wF Craftsman slip joints, 6 3/4” wF Craftsman slip joints, Indestro obstruction wrench, Thorson 1 1/8” socket, proto offset,indestro offset, and a cool little hardwood with a leather covering chest. 21 Dablooms
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Congrats on the Bonney 585- DOE, Lugz! “Elusive” as a description of the -4 is desiccated understatement. Is there more than one known to exist?
Since I read your dilation of them years ago (yipe!), I’ve kept an eye out for the whole 585- gang, but the only one I’ve seen is a -36.
I’ve spotted more of the similar (but conventionally-numbered) Kriegers (three, I think), but only acquired one, this 1040, which wouldn’t go into a Jeep kit anyway.
Private Lugnutz
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The only one I've ever seen was the one I posted in my WANTED/treatise thread on them, and, ironically, that guy did not have the others in the set and wasn't even really a tools guy! I had all the others in the Jeep/GMTK set except the -4, but was unable to persuade the guy to part with it. I think Unaiu is in the same boat now.
Private Lugnutz
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In the LEFT-BEHIND category today were these antique fixed socket wrenches. The speeders and those extra long skinny T-handles with the wide but extremely shallow sockets (including the crowfoot)(see Pic 1), and the heavy offset truck set (see Pic 2) ALL have script Ford logos and an old Ford part numbers. Seller, who I know, wanted $100 for the lot and I really didn't feel like paying that. I may see him again tomorrow and see if I can get him down. I'm not really a Ford guy, but these are special. I didn't take the time to inspect them all closely, but I believe I spotted some Herbrand Diamond-H marks.
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cmccuist1
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I’ve never seen a Wilton out in the wild until today. I went quite a ways out into the woods of south Texas and found this. They were asking $80, but took $60. Pretty happy about that.
Old Radar
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As well you should be! Congrats! I do believe, however you would be wise to take off that freshly applied spraybomb coating and make sure there's no rust lurking...
cmccuist1
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Yes. I need to properly prime and paint with something closer to Wilton green.
Provincial
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Lugz, Ford part numbers tell a lot. They can tell you the year the tool was introduced, and sometimes tell you if it was a service tool, an assembly-line tool, or part of the kit that came with a vehicle.
Edit to add: Those look like 1920's vintage, which would be within your widow of collecting!
Edit to add: Those look like 1920's vintage, which would be within your widow of collecting!
Private Lugnutz
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Yes, they are all fixed socket era.
Outlawmws
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Lugz, D-42 anf other with mil tool in depth knowledge ever seen an obstruction wrench with USMC forged in?
Not Mine; from another Forum:
Not Mine; from another Forum:
steaks&anvils
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isn't that the shoe company?Lugz, D-42 anf other with mil tool in depth knowledge ever seen an obstruction wrench with USMC forged in?
Not Mine; from another Forum:
Private Lugnutz
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Definitely. I would love to run into one of those for my collection. EDIT: leg17 has one, posted on my thread on the Vintage board here.
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steaks&anvils
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To follow on Outlawmws's USMC post above, I picked up this stainless steel ladle awhile ago at the thrift store (it was just a few dollars).
Sorry about the bad cheap phone pictures. It's too big and too shiny to get it all in one picture.
Who doesn't need a big ladle? It is 24in long, bowl is 6in across and is 20oz volume. It is marked L&G and USMC. It is very, very, very stout.
I suspect that if the Commies make it over the wire, that they aren't getting Cookie's chili recipe.
Sorry about the bad cheap phone pictures. It's too big and too shiny to get it all in one picture.
Who doesn't need a big ladle? It is 24in long, bowl is 6in across and is 20oz volume. It is marked L&G and USMC. It is very, very, very stout.
I suspect that if the Commies make it over the wire, that they aren't getting Cookie's chili recipe.
