2022 Garage Sale Thread
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@Outlawmws At $20, for something that nice, and older than anyone can definitively pinpoint, how is that saw not a steal?
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RTM
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I live on the peninsula, and often hit any part of SSF and San Mateo east of 101, in the houses north of 92. There are a feW guys on the other side of the bay, and I don’t know their haunts, but lots of good stuff have come out of working neighborhoods in Oakland, Emeryville, the small houses in Berkeley, etc.
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RTM
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I would go to the Disstonian, and compare the handle shape and nut patterns, on the >50% chance Disston made it. I would also age it based on the medallion characteristics, regardless of maker.
Failing that, got to ITCL and then poke thru Atkins, Simonds etc see if you can find a handle match.
Cruzan80
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So total recap of Thursday, as promised.
Along with the Crescent screwdrivers (nice surprise), I got a couple of unmarked machinist squares, a few different unmarked small hammers, various blades and sundry. The small tape was a Montgomery Wards 6ft, the compass/divider is an older Starrett, my first Bernard Schollhorn. All together was about $30 pictured
Right under the main reason for the trip, I saw this cool little Black and Decker Dremel. The main station is a speed control, and the handle is an spring extension cord. $10
And why I showed up 2hrs before the sale was completely based on others research in this thread... a "duplicate" Union 8d box! Unfortunately, it is missing the handle and the dropfront. Right next to it was a 3d Gerstner & sons, with dropfront and keys. Both together were about $90 out the door.
Not pictured are a few different fountain pens (nothing too special), a small trinket for my wofe, and a leather apron for the shop.
A second sale got a couple of wooden chairs and a small table to leave outside, and a Variac 116B transformer, total was $10. Seems like these are pretty pricey?
Along with the Crescent screwdrivers (nice surprise), I got a couple of unmarked machinist squares, a few different unmarked small hammers, various blades and sundry. The small tape was a Montgomery Wards 6ft, the compass/divider is an older Starrett, my first Bernard Schollhorn. All together was about $30 pictured
Right under the main reason for the trip, I saw this cool little Black and Decker Dremel. The main station is a speed control, and the handle is an spring extension cord. $10
And why I showed up 2hrs before the sale was completely based on others research in this thread... a "duplicate" Union 8d box! Unfortunately, it is missing the handle and the dropfront. Right next to it was a 3d Gerstner & sons, with dropfront and keys. Both together were about $90 out the door.
Not pictured are a few different fountain pens (nothing too special), a small trinket for my wofe, and a leather apron for the shop.
A second sale got a couple of wooden chairs and a small table to leave outside, and a Variac 116B transformer, total was $10. Seems like these are pretty pricey?
Outlawmws
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It's "comparative" for me; I generally will spend from $1-$5 on a saw I want -at 4X my usual high end, I can't call it a steal.
Cruzan80
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Outlaws, too bad you weren't local. Last sale had tons of lanterns, as well as parts. Saw one guy put a set of small drawers on the hold table. Coleman logo on the top, and and looked like packs of replacement parts and such. Also some camping amd such, some still in cardboard boxes.
Gerstner sells a reproduction leather handle that will fit your Union box. You can also make your own out of a piece of steel rod, lot's of thin strips of paper and leather for the outer wrap. The drop down front will be pretty easy to make since it's not a raised panel style. The hard part to source will be the lock. They are unobtanium but there are others that are pretty close. Yours has all the ring pulls, drawers and corner hardware which is very fortunate.So total recap of Thursday, as promised.
Along with the Crescent screwdrivers (nice surprise), I got a couple of unmarked machinist squares, a few different unmarked small hammers, various blades and sundry. The small tape was a Montgomery Wards 6ft, the compass/divider is an older Starrett, my first Bernard Schollhorn. All together was about $30 pictured
And why I showed up 2hrs before the sale was completely based on others research in this thread... a "duplicate" Union 8d box! Unfortunately, it is missing the handle and the dropfront. Right next to it was a 3d Gerstner & sons, with dropfront and keys. Both together were about $90 out the door.
Outlawmws
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So looking at a 1928 Disston catalog, it has a lot of similarities to a D20 skew back dimensions are the same and for the handle outline, and the Wheat pattern on the grip - the pattern is only on one side of the grip and also not om the "Blade side" of the wood. The grip hols has differences, adn the heel of the blade is rounded on the craftsman adn "square" on the Disston drawing.
The blade is 7 TPI - but they skipped a tooth and left a gap for a tooth at about 1", 4-1/2", and 10-3/8
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Outlawmws
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That could be a gold mine if not priced to Eprey levels.
Outlawmws
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Nice finds Cruz! Someone was into working on small stuff from the looks - possibly guns/pistols, I see a bore light in there - Yes?
3jakes
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Not ****, just practical.
32 quarts for 40 bucks.
That 20/50 gets eaten by my 79 E150 and my mower transmission.
The rest works for the 3Jakes winter fleet.
32 quarts for 40 bucks.
That 20/50 gets eaten by my 79 E150 and my mower transmission.
The rest works for the 3Jakes winter fleet.
d42jeep
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If it was on Tahoe, I would have probably missed it. I spent some time on our lake last week that seemed worthwhile. The four Macinaw went back in the lake.
-Don
d42jeep
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I dressed up some rivet sets that we found at an estate sale last week.
-Don
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Outlawmws
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So you saw 4 swimmers! 
Tahoe is BIG; unless you were right there, you probably would not notice a big swim meet like that. 22 miles long, 12 wide... only the 5 great lakes are bigger.
Tahoe is BIG; unless you were right there, you probably would not notice a big swim meet like that. 22 miles long, 12 wide... only the 5 great lakes are bigger.
Cruzan80
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Guy did a bunch of wood carving and small model work. Not sure what the flexi light is for exactly, but always grab them when cheap, as they frequently come in handy for all kinds of things.
Regarding lanterns, some was priced high (dad had a "collection"), but others were at "get-em-gone" levels. The plastic drawer set I noticed due to the Coleman logo on top, and then noticed all the parts inside.
RTM
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I would almost guess the D20 is from 1927, based on the image about 1/2 way down the page here. Handle hole shape, and the notch on top match a little closer.So looking at a 1928 Disston catalog, it has a lot of similarities to a D20 skew back dimensions are the same and for the handle outline, and the Wheat pattern on the grip - the pattern is only on one side of the grip and also not om the "Blade side" of the wood. The grip hols has differences, adn the heel of the blade is rounded on the craftsman adn "square" on the Disston drawing.
The blade is 7 TPI - but they skipped a tooth and left a gap for a tooth at about 1", 4-1/2", and 10-3/8
Medallion:
Online Reference of Disston Saws -- D20-21-22-23 Models
identifying and dating disston saws
www.disstonianinstitute.com
The medallions get tricky, cuz all you can really go on is the diameter and height. Looking here, I see 1917 - 1947 being the same diameter and the D20 should have the 13/16". Unfortunately he doesn't talk about the profile between 40 - 47 v 17 - 40
Supposedly there are little details in the beading (1896 on) mentioned somewhere. Oops, 1955 onward, not applicable.
Online Reference of Disston Saws -- The Medallions
identifying and dating disston saws
www.disstonianinstitute.com
http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/faq.html#ws (read the 1914, 1918, 1923 part there) He says slightly less than 50% chance of being a Disston. I just guessed.
Look closely at the skipped teeth, I'd guess they were broken off, and filed smooth. not intentionally skipped.
Outlawmws
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You hit it on the broken teeth RTM. I've never seen them snap off that cleanly, but they were never filed you can see the root remnants.
So that leaves the partial wheat carving, and the rounded "heel" but everything else screams 1927 D20 Disston.
So that leaves the partial wheat carving, and the rounded "heel" but everything else screams 1927 D20 Disston.
Outlawmws
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Circular saw blades are often setup staggered like that to help unload the blade of sawdust, but seemed weird to me also.
RTM
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Big tree cutting saws often have skip teeth, but it’s very regular. On modern boutique hand saws, you will occasionally see a pitch change at the heel and toe, for easier starting I think.
Sorry late to the party. FWIW, I came to the same conclusion (aided by the Disstonian siite) before getting to RTM’s and your assessments. I like, too, that that date jibes with Lugz’s ballpark on the wavy C’man logo.
The differences from a 1927 D20 could derrive from either or both Sears and Disston wanting, for marketing reasons, to distinguish the saw from the standard D20. Plausibly, ever-thrifty Disston intentionally used up remaining semi-finished D20 parts (since the D20 was discontinued in 1928) to fill the Sears order after 1927, but not much after.
I think the “<50%” point RTM mentioned pertains to medallions bearing “Warranted Superior,” but not the ring of dots - that, to me, is a specific Disston tell. Disston may have sold those same WS medallions in bulk to smaller saw makers, but the larger competitors made or sourced their own medallions.
It is a beautiful saw.
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alinc100
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And why I showed up 2hrs before the sale was completely based on others research in this thread... a "duplicate" Union 8d box! Unfortunately, it is missing the handle and the dropfront. Right next to it was a 3d Gerstner & sons, with dropfront and keys. Both together were about $90 out the door.
From zero to two 8D’s in a week. Awesome job guys.
Old Man Roger
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I don’t understand what these are and what they do? I googled “rivet sets” but didn’t see anything like these?
Never mind, I found a video. I didn’t realize these were for copper rivets used on leather.
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Cruzan80
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Usually there are two holes (these may hve a third, set offfrom the end?). One is used to set the small washer down onto the shaft, holding the two items together with light grip. The other hole is domed, so as to help shape the part nerding to be peened.
Private Lugnutz
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Not just copper, and not just leather. Any rivets used on anything, including sheet metal, prior to compound riveters with handles and, later, rivet guns, as long as you had a hammer and backing. And even after the advent of more proficient riveters, hand rivet sets were still used in some applications, such as the kits used by upholsterers and body and radiator mechanics in WWII.
Snerk.So you saw 4 swimmers!
I'm aware, and I've been there. And Don's place doesn't have the right LOS anyway. It was mainly a light-hearted rhetorical question to let him know DD#1 and BF were just in his stomping grounds.
By volume. There are several lakes that are bigger than Tahoe by area.
Private Lugnutz
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Set and header.
Old Man Roger
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Lake okeechobee is pretty big, but not very deep.
Private Lugnutz
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Pontchartrain, in the same area, is also massive but shallow. I'm thinking Champlain in upstate NY might be bigger by area, too.
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]3jakes
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Last week I attended a family run estate sale where everything was "smokin hopium" priced.
The few items in the photos that I was interested in were already gone, so a total bust.
I asked if there were any more tools to come out, & the reply was,
"Maybe, if the brothers can decide what they don't want to keep".
So this week on Craigslist, again was their add with fresh pictures, & there was a Craftsman box with the price visible.
Kind of borderline for my wallet, but maybe there is more to look at:
Everything is =V= series, the ratchets both push button/oil port. Clean & nice looking stuff.
They had more tools for sale this time, a few pieces actually bargain priced:
Craftsman puller set $3.
On the left, Williams combos & 4" adjustable were in a 50 cent box.
1/4 drive Crown top set nice shape $9.
4 very nice Craftsman =V= doe for $3.
The pocket knives were 50 cents
Including this Mark Twain Barlow/Imperial
And finally a $2.00 Wizzard box.
That one was the most fun to find.
The few items in the photos that I was interested in were already gone, so a total bust.
I asked if there were any more tools to come out, & the reply was,
"Maybe, if the brothers can decide what they don't want to keep".
So this week on Craigslist, again was their add with fresh pictures, & there was a Craftsman box with the price visible.
Kind of borderline for my wallet, but maybe there is more to look at:
Everything is =V= series, the ratchets both push button/oil port. Clean & nice looking stuff.
They had more tools for sale this time, a few pieces actually bargain priced:
Craftsman puller set $3.
On the left, Williams combos & 4" adjustable were in a 50 cent box.
1/4 drive Crown top set nice shape $9.
4 very nice Craftsman =V= doe for $3.
The pocket knives were 50 cents
Including this Mark Twain Barlow/Imperial
And finally a $2.00 Wizzard box.
That one was the most fun to find.
Smokeshow69
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Here I will move is along- wait, did someone just purchase a Jerry can usmc marked? Look over therePontchartrain, in the same area, is also massive but shallow. I'm thinking Champlain in upstate NY might be bigger by area, too.
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The craftsman set is a definite you ****. Looks nearly mint! That hacksaw with crown top blade is amazing!Last week I attended a family run estate sale where everything was "smokin hopium" priced.
The few items in the photos that I was interested in were already gone, so a total bust.
I asked if there were any more tools to come out, & the reply was,
"Maybe, if the brothers can decide what they don't want to keep".
So this week on Craigslist, again was their add with fresh pictures, & there was a Craftsman box with the price visible.
Kind of borderline for my wallet, but maybe there is more to look at:
Everything is =V= series, the ratchets both push button/oil port. Clean & nice looking stuff.
They had more tools for sale this time, a few pieces actually bargain priced:
Craftsman puller set $3.
On the left, Williams combos & 4" adjustable were in a 50 cent box.
1/4 drive Crown top box nice shape $9.
4 very nice Craftsman =V= doe for $3.
The pocket knives were 50 cents
Including this Mark Twain Barlow/Imperial
And finally a $2.00 Wizzard box.
That one was the most fun to find.
Reminds me of earning my Leatherwork merit badge at Camp Yawgoog, too many years ago!
Mike
Jim_No_Garage
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I found a "double wide" Globe Wernicke barrister bookcase on FBMP. After a quick trip from suburban NJ to Brooklyn NY it's all mine!
It has a few minor condition issues - some broken knobs and 1 pane of glass is missing. I didn't even know such a thing existed!
Cheers
Jim
It has a few minor condition issues - some broken knobs and 1 pane of glass is missing. I didn't even know such a thing existed!
Cheers
Jim
Smokeshow69
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Oh, that’s a good one! Nice find. I didn’t know those existed eitherI found a "double wide" Globe Wernicke barrister bookcase on FBMP. After a quick trip from suburban NJ to Brooklyn NY it's all mine!
It has a few minor condition issues - some broken knobs and 1 pane of glass is missing. I didn't even know such a thing existed!
Cheers
Jim
Private Lugnutz
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Wow! That is 3 x more Globe Wernike-ness than I have!
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cmccuist1
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Killer deal on this Fluke. Community wide yard sale in the little town of Clute. It’s the 787 Process Meter model which has functions I’ll never use. Paid $10. Needed a new battery and some leads, which I had a spare set laying about.
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