2023 Garage Sale Thread

[Marsim]

Got this one this morning, mostly because I don't have one this big (21"). Works fine, needs cleaned. Anyone recognize the stamp? Stamped N Y 4 on the other side.

 

[Old Radar]

^^ Whitman & Barnes ^^

 

[Outlawmws]

You do know I'm kidding, right???

Went right over my head...

mostly because I don't have one this big (21")

Man, don't drop that one on your toes!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Two had posted 350 times--any PRIVATE guesses on who those OUTLAyers were?

Snerk.

Perhaps the lack of participation in voting THIS WEEK - right before Christmas - is simply because peoples' focus currently is on the holiday.

Naaah! We're always gnashing these teeth. Then it picks up a little. Hook or crook, we'll have a new PotY and a new sucker host come the end of the year.

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LEFT-BEHIND's included...

Pic 1: Unbranded (probably Toyang) reticulating Power Jaws pipe wrench. I had fun playing with it for a while with thoughts of the self-adjusting category on my 'Oddfellows' thread, but it's not nearly vintage enough.

Pic 2: Tables and tables (and tables...) of, um, er, very fine "Adult" literature. (@pfaustus, if you're reading, I suspect Fish must've cleaned-out a defunct skin shop somewhere, and Margaret, steadfastly working the other side of his dump, as far away as possible, was hilarious in denial. ) No close-ups. This thread is rated F for Family!

 

[Marsim]

Went back to the condemned building yard sale today. No tools, but wild weird stuff. 8-10 rooms like this. It was an old leather work shop.

 

[ctuai]

Estate sale ($30): 4' lit wreath; 10 - GE 100 light 6" super spheres.

• Normally I put up lights, but saw these and given how late it is in the season went for fast. Looks festive enough. Happy holidays! -- Cam

 

[Outlawmws]

Marsim, was there anything interesting you picked up there? In pic one there is a desk or work bench covered with stuff for instance, and maybe some wood boxes and benches in the background..

 

[bmwrd0]

The sales were empty, my friends!
I had three planned for today, but the first was cancelled and the third was super sketchy. But the second was nicer than I expected, not with tools, but with something not in the picture. But, anyway:

From said sale, a Proto 7/16" nut driver, Williams SOE, box of machine screws, book on railroad memorabilia, and a tape marked on the outside American Plumbing and Steam, with the blade marked Stanley. Not pictured, as I am gonna have to sneak in in the house, is a very nice Japanese ceramic vase and cup set which will be the wife's birthday present in a couple months. Like I said, better than expected on the final day of a sale two days before Xmas! After that I stopped at my friends used bookstore, and picked up the Lovecraft (1970) and two train books.

It was a good day.

 

[Outlawmws]

At lest you had sales BMW! Nada here.

 

[bmwrd0]

Well, wife stepped out for a second, so I was able to sneak the prezy in and take a photo!

 

[pfaustus]

Pic 2: Tables and tables (and tables...) of, um, er, very fine "Adult" literature. (@pfaustus, if you're reading, I suspect Fish must've cleaned-out a defunct skin shop somewhere, and Margaret, steadfastly working the other side of his dump, as far away as possible, was hilarious in denial. ) No close-ups. This thread is rated F for Family!

I surprised that wasn't one of the days she got her own table in the main field.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Need more pics!

Posted more in the 'Show us your wood' and 'Fencing tools' thread.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Finally mounted my recently found Waterloo side caddy box. Not an exact match but pretty close. It must weigh 150 lbs but I got it hanging on there myself without scratching anything up. It doesn't seem to bug my OCD as much as I thought it would but would love to find one for the other side. Now to find something useful to store on the surface.

Your ocd shouldn’t allow you to store anything on top of that side box. It’s a great work space, near your tools, and a great space to place tools while working on something else.

 

[Marsim]

I haven't seen one of these in years. Doors are welded shut and sitting on a section of unused track.

Marsim, was there anything interesting you picked up there? In pic one there is a desk or work bench covered with stuff for instance, and maybe some wood boxes and benches in the background..

A bunch of random things. I'm guessing the place was abandoned in the 60s. The office stapler was from 1940. A few fans from the 50s. Really neat rotted display cases. I'm sure people stole stuff over the years. There is one piece I need to look up before I post it.

 

[bmwrd0]

Pic 2: Tables and tables (and tables...) of, um, er, very fine "Adult" literature. (@pfaustus, if you're reading, I suspect Fish must've cleaned-out a defunct skin shop somewhere, and Margaret, steadfastly working the other side of his dump, as far away as possible, was hilarious in denial. ) No close-ups. This thread is rated F for Family!

Many moons ago, I was an account manager for a HUGE printing company. They kind of company that had facilities all over the world and was the type that the NYTimes contracted with to print papers around the country so they could be delivered daily, hot off the press's! Anyway, at one time we were printing both bibles on one side of the facility and Penthouse on the other. And due to the nature of the inspections, we strung sheets down the middle of the room.

Gotta keep everyone happy!

 

[Outlawmws]

Marsim did you grab the bellows? That's easily fixable.

Last pic, Flashlight, or lighter?

 

[Marsim]

Marsim did you grab the bellows? That's easily fixable.

Last pic, Flashlight, or lighter?

I grabbed everything in the pics. Flashlight. I need to sort through the rest of the stuff.

 

[Outwest]

Posted more in the 'Show us your wood' and 'Fencing tools' thread.

I’ve never seen a pair of those from Craftsman…. My thoughts were Cresent.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Same. And I would've bet on Crescent as the OEM. But they're German!

 

[SuburbGuy]

Went back to the condemned building yard sale today. No tools, but wild weird stuff. 8-10 rooms like this. It was an old leather work shop.

I noticed the metal shelving that looked well built but I couldn't see what kind of condition they were in. Were they ok?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Anyway, at one time we were printing both bibles on one side of the facility and Penthouse on the other. And due to the nature of the inspections, we strung sheets down the middle of the room.

That's hilarious!

Although, there is some overlap, if you will.

"And the two of them were naked, the human and his woman, and they were not ashamed."
Genesis 2:25

 

[bubinga]

Wow, nice find on the wartime Mopar manuals! That w series should include the civilian W series 4wd aka powerwagon?

What years about would it cover?

 

[bubinga]

Went back to the condemned building yard sale today. No tools, but wild weird stuff. 8-10 rooms like this. It was an old leather work shop.

was the stuff reasonable?
Re-purpose city?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

What years about would it cover?

41 to 47

 

[Marsim]

Went

was the stuff reasonable?
Re-purpose city?

Went there yesterday, and the lady said I have a good aura and gave me the stuff for free. I gave her $20 for the stuff today. May go back tomorrow for an antique school desk. There's a disassembled 1870's or 80 axles plow in there too. One of the display cases is unreal. The doors are chained shut, only way in is through a broken window. No way to get big things out.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

the lady said I have a good aura and gave me the stuff for free.

I could be wrong, but that might be a first for the GS thread!

 

[Marsim]

Slowly going through the milk crates. When did craftsman make pitching horseshoes?

 

[wtn1271]

I haven't been keeping up on the posts for a few weeks but finally got caught up yesterday. Lots of great & interesting stuff, as usual, plus the informative posts by many others that add so much to this thread. Thanks all.

3baygarage's haul in post #5801 deserves a 'you ****' for the (3) Snap On ratcheting screwdrivers @$5 each.

Sales in my area have slowed down but I see a few posted on estatesales.net for next year that show some promise.

Time to head over to the voting booth and make my selections.

 

[Marsim]

Large duk-it brand lobby ash tray and an odd ball pulley assembly.

 

[Marsim]

This was on the floor in the office. Ugly as hell, missing the pendulum and weights. German mech- kienzle? It's not seized, should work after a disassemble and cleaning.

 

[four.cycle]

When did craftsman make pitching horseshoes?

unless I'm mistaken, most cast iron horseshoes were made by a company that made a chain tool, but I can't think of the name off the top of my head right now.

we no longer make horseshoes in country. they have become collector items.

 

[Outlawmws]

Large duk-it brand lobby ash tray

I remember those! several different mounting options, including stand models and IIR posts for the "line indicators" in theaters and such.

an odd ball pulley assembly.

The wheels remind me ones in Erector sets. the stand not so much

missing the pendulum and weights.

That's the trick, you need the right weight and length pendulum and weights.

 

[Smokeshow69]

You'd think so, but it's a little ambiguous. I won't tangent the thread too much on this here.

In summary, technically, there was no such thing as an Army "Power Wagon" during WWII. The name was first used in March 1946 by Dodge for the civilian version of the 3/4-ton 4 x 4 series of trucks built by Dodge for the Army from 1942 to 1945. My understanding is that Dodge gave them a "WDX" designation. There are no WDX designations under the Model Code column. My further understanding is that Dodge gave them the engineering code "T137" and that became something of a nerdy alternate moniker for them from Power Wagon aficionados over the years. There are no T137 designations in the Engineering Code column. (Note, that's not Dodge listing their military production and reusing the Army's abbreviation for "Weapons Carrier" - a common misnomer, at the top of the list; Dodge's code for 1/2-ton 4 x 4 was always "WC".) On the plus side, those WD20-21 entries for 1942, 1946, and 1947 have the correct displacement in cubic centimeters (230.2) for the military 3/4-ton 4 x 4 and its civilian version, so maybe that's our boy and the WDX designation came later.

I plan to ask 2018 GJ Garage Sale thread PotY @tin medic about it. I essentially had him in mind when I bought it. And if he doesn't need it, someone else who owns a Dodge G502 (3/4) or G505 (1/2) might want it.

Either way, a very useful book for someone. The elegant thing about Dodge and all these trucks at this time was the parts interchangeability.

**wait, are you saying that military vehicle collectors and vintage power wagon collectors can really get stuck on the smallest details? I had absolutley no clue . Just kidding....I knew that. I appreciate the zeal for accuracy and 100% correctness by those camps. But that's where the rub lies....depending on your context, time period, factory where shipped from, you may or may not be correct . It's a vicious cycle that can truly never end in a pursuit of 100% across the board correctness.

I tried voting again, it won't let me... LOL

I haven't caught the "bug" to do my own GS shopping (but I did visit a ReStore for the first time this year).

I tend to collect the freebies from work, which have slowed down for the moment, but should pick back up next year. It's been great working for a Lean nazi, seems like anything that doesn't get used for more than a few months gets his attention to pitch!

The previous managers were all hoarders. Biggest challenge for me is knowing when NOT to take more stuff than I can squeeze into my garage (and I REALLY need to get better about that!!!).

Mike

***ahem, you couldnt vote more than once because I disabled that option when I created the poll There will be no ballot stuffing or pregnant chads on my watch sir. No FL recounts or claims of stolen elections to be had on my watch sir ***

 

[Outlawmws]

depending on your context, time period, factory where shipped from, you may or may not be correct

And then the vehicles went into combat zones, (or even US based camps) where the reality of mechanics, use, battle damage, loss of things adaptation, expediency of the moment, and a million unanticipated factors came into play.

PT 109 for instance - JFK recovered an abandoned boat, repaired it refurbished its armaments, and got it back into combat. Heck it even had a small field piece on the bow added as added fire power!

There ain't no such thing as "letter perfect" for military vehicles. I get "Period correct" I also get anything that worked, issued or not could be brought into play. Americans are like that. It's in our DNA


Funny story; A friend from way back was in the reserves and was spending time in the motor pool. They got bored and sanded the OD paint off the wheels, and then polished the aluminum wheels on one of the trucks. He said it looked spectacular, CO came in, laughed and complimented them on a job well done. "Now go paint them OD again".

 

[Smokeshow69]

And then the vehicles went into combat zones, (or even US based camps) where the reality of mechanics, use, battle damage, loss of things adaptation, expediency of the moment, and a million unanticipated factors came into play.

PT 109 for instance - JFK recovered an abandoned boat, repaired it refurbished its armaments, and got it back into combat. Heck it even had a small field piece on the bow added as added fire power!

There ain;t no such thing as "Letter perfect" for military vehicles. I get "Period correct" I also get anything that worked, issued or not could be brought into play. Americans are like that. It's in out DNA


Funny story; A friend from way back was in the reserves adn was spending time in the motor pool. They got bored and sanded the OD paint off the wheels, and then polished the aluminum wheels on one of the trucks. He said it looked spectacular, CO came in, laughed and complimented them on a job well done. "Now go paint them OD again".

True that! There is literally no way to account for field modifications or motor pool adaptations! It’s a never ending task

 

[Provincial]

PT 109 for instance - JFK recovered an abandoned boat, repaired it refurbished its armaments, and got it back into combat. Heck it even had a small field piece on the bow added as added fire power!

During the Solomon Islands Campaign, it was common for PT boat crews to salvage the 37MM cannons from abandoned P-39 fighters to use for shooting up Japanese supply barges. These cannons were autoloading, and while not as powerful as actual 37MM field pieces, the rate of fire and exploding projectiles were very effective at sinking the barges.

 

[mikeinri]

Why were the planes abandoned?

Mike

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It's a vicious cycle that can truly never end in a pursuit of 100% across the board correctness.

I'm not sure how we got from the question of whether the '41-'47 Dodge truck manual included "Power Wagons" to military vehicle restorations, but as long as you brought it up, I am of the opinion you can get to 100% correctness, given sufficient factory and Ordnance Dept references, I literally "co-wrote the book" on how to do it for a Willys MB "factory class" jeep (that is, as it looked when it rolled off the line), and a condensed version has been used as a rubric in MVPA convention judging. Now, there were several variants, so one size does not fit all. But if your engine number, chassis number, and serial number all match, you should be able to get to 100% for that variant. I don't know **** about Dodge, though.

My judgmental beef is with the guys who want it both ways. They have a factory class jeep, with a factory class finish, which they then proceed to plaster with unit markings and a pioneer kit and a winch and a 50 cal and a tow rope on the front bumper, all of which were unit issue, at destination. In essence, aesthetically, what looks like a jeep all decked out for Rat Patrol but has not yet seen one day of combat. I hate that perfect parade jeep look. It's a visual contradiction.

Back to the books, though - what I was saying was that I expected to see more explicit references to WDX and T137, but I do think the WD20 and WD21 are the civilian "Power Wagons."

 

[Outlawmws]

Why were the planes abandoned?

Probably battle damage - airworthy enough for a desperate final landing, but not for takeoff/combat.

 

[seber]

Why were the planes abandoned?

Mike

Battle damage and hard use caused most WWII planes to be parted out at some point.