24x24 + Bonus Room Build

[billyM]

I have found myself out of space.

I thought the basement garage (linky) would be enough. ...boy was I wrong. A year, two more cars, a motorcycle, and a ton of new tools later, and I don't have enough room to sneeze in there, much less work! I could cut down on how much stuff I have. That would certainly be the more fiscally responsible path to take...

...needless to say I decided to build instead!

She'll be a 24x24 with 8ft walls on a 6" stem, single stairwell along the back wall up to a 15x24 bonus room under a 12/12 shingle roof. As much as I would love to build a full-on mechanics heaven out there, honestly I'll just be using it for storage. Operation "get the cars and **** out of my other garage" if you will... I must admit I've become partial to the sub-grade basement garage for its temperature controlled goodness, and will likely keep all the work in there.

As it sits on 3/20

I've been doing a little more research on solar as well.
-Step one will be 12v lighting and alarm/locks running off a bank of deep cycles.
-Step two will be wiring for 120v and installing my 4000w inverter from the limo (when I'm not feeling so poor).

Fill-dirt time, as of 3/21

I have also been taking time-lapse shots, so I'll have a funny stop-motion video of the action after its all said and done.

Speaking of, here is the stop-motion video of the forms being put up and stem-wall poured.

Here is the stop-motion video of the slab being poured and finished.

--billyM

 

[Rockerbox1]

sounds like a nice sized build, keep the pics coming

 

[billyM]

I just got a confirmation that the slab will be poured today.

I have a web-enabled surveillance system, and co-workers are getting sick and tired of me continually "woohoo-ing" in my office every time I spot someone working back there.

"Woohoo! There's a backhoe in my back yard! Footer-time baby!"

"Woohoo! Concrete contractors sighted! Forms going in, garage-progress!"

"Woohoo! Bring on the fill-dirt, daddy needs a flat spot for mah' slab!"

...they should expect another the minute I spot re-bar going down.

--billyM

 

[billyM]

"Woohoo! They're pouring my slab!"

Pics tonight.

--billyM

 

[clkimmel]

I wish I had thought of a web cam for the garage build! That's sweet! Looks good so far.

 

[jktruck150]

Woo Hoo, you crack me up! Congrats on the build. That webcam is not a bad idea...I will have to remember that.

 

[billyM]

Woohoo!

Slab on 3/22

Framing starts tomorrow, and I've decided upon colors (double 4 designer siding, harvard slate in color, and slate gray shingles)

--billyM

 

[theoldwizard1]

I've been doing a little more research on solar as well.
-Step one will be 12v lighting and alarm/locks running off a bank of deep cycles.
-Step two will be wiring for 120v and installing my 4000w inverter from the limo (when I'm not feeling so poor).

I'm interested in these aspects. Subscribed.

 

[billspit]

Congrats on starting the garage. Boy I would love to do the same, but its not going to happen where I currently live. Plenty of room, but it would be money i would never come close to getting back if I sold.

BTW I'm in Spartanburg.

 

[930dreamer]

Looking good.

 

[billyM]

I'm interested in these aspects. Subscribed.

I'll keep this thread updated until the darn thing is completed, so all the details and findings will be published.

Last night I picked up a 3/4hp craftsman belt drive garage door opener with 12v backup. Interior and exterior keypads, 2 remotes, all for $200 smackers from sears. I figure I'll just tie it in to the main deep cycle instead of the dinky 5ah sealed led acid backup battery and be good to go!

Congrats on starting the garage. Boy I would love to do the same, but its not going to happen where I currently live. Plenty of room, but it would be money i would never come close to getting back if I sold.

BTW I'm in Spartanburg.

Oh I'm taking the *hands over ears* "la-la-la-la-la I can't hear you" approach to listening to reason as to the poor return of investment on this project. Haha!

Looking good.

Thank you sir, keep an eye out for more pictures and stop-motion of the progress.


Speaking of, here is the stop-motion video of the forms being put up and stem-wall poured.

--BillyM

 

[billyM]

Here is the stop-motion video of the slab being poured and finished.

--billyM

 

[merlinpro]

Really nice work on the time lapse!

Good luck and keep us posted!

 

[billyM]

Me (outside-voice): "Woohoo! They're framing as I type. One roof away from a real garage!"

Coworkers: "Shaddap about your garage, we're sick of hearing about it."

--BillyM

 

[jktruck150]

Simply cool!

 

[BPJOOP93]

is it done yet??????

 

[billyM]

Not yet, but it sure feels like it is getting closer!

They slotted the slab today, and the framing crew got-busy, literally working until dark. Walls are up, manufactured floor beams in, and the 7/8" flooring for the bonus room is down. I'm pretty stoked with the progress, and at this rate they'll be done by this weekend.

Timelapse video of the framing work is here:

--billyM

 

[billyM]

Front and rear gables went up this morning ~10am, center beam was installed and all rafters were in by 3pm, they're working on roof sheeting now.

Exciting!

--billyM

 

[billyM]

I'm "in the dry" baby!

--billyM

 

[billyM]

It's shingled, sided, and soffit-ed. All that remains is garage door (which goes up today). On that topic, I managed to get a Sears (chamberlain?) 3/4hp belt drive 12v-dc opener /w keypad (since I have no man-door) for $198 out the door. It will be installed today as well...

Pictures up tonight.

--billyM

 

[Fish-man]

holy **** that was fast!

 

[billyM]

Yea, that seems to be this company's claim to fame. Lowest price, fastest completion, and full turn-key. ...it's what sold me. Thus-far, they've delivered.

Sadly, the door guy did not show yesterday (got ******* at another job) and weather is not cooperating. Up-side being that the garage is fully shingled, sided, and trimmed.

I still haven't taken any new pictures of the garage, but will get some up tonight if it clears up a bit.

--billyM

 

[spentmiles]

billyM - sent you a PM with some questions about your build. feel free to reply here or via email/pm if you don't mind.

looking to do something very similar size/shape this summer. looks great so far, and very fast!

spentmiles

 

[billyM]

Spentmiles: Replied. I don't know that I feel comfortable blabbing about who I had do the work at the risk of sounding like I am advertising for them, but anyone in SC is welcome to send me a private message and I'll let them know the details.

The garage door went in today during a break in the weather. If the rain can hold off for a few days, they'll come in and finish the site work and grading.

--billyM

 

[billyM]

This is a photo the builder took before the garage door, final grading, pressure washing, and seeding around the building.

--BillyM

 

[billyM]

I came up with (85) 8x4 sheets of 3" Styrofoam insulation for a steal of a deal ($7/ea). I installed them in the wall cavities downstairs last night, and will work on the floor joist sills tonight. ...then later this week I'll get them installed in the 2x6 rafters (leaving a 2.5" gap behind them for air travel up to the peak vent).

Question: Would I be negligent to leave the insulation un-faced (sheetrocked) behind the kneewalls and above the horizontal ceiling 2x4's?

Thanks,
--billyM

 

[89s rule]

Looks nice, YGPM about a few things.

 

[kywildcat]

I think you will regret no man door.......I use mine all the time!! Still a great building though!!

 

[theroyz71]

Great looking garage.

 

[BPJOOP93]

I came up with (85) 8x4 sheets of 3" Styrofoam insulation for a steal of a deal ($7/ea). I installed them in the wall cavities downstairs last night, and will work on the floor joist sills tonight. ...then later this week I'll get them installed in the 2x6 rafters (leaving a 2.5" gap behind them for air travel up to the peak vent).

Question: Would I be negligent to leave the insulation un-faced (sheetrocked) behind the kneewalls and above the horizontal ceiling 2x4's?

Thanks,
--billyM

what???? post a picture that may help.
why no man door? security or what? i use mine all the time, lot less of a heat loss not opening the overhead door all the time. just my .02.

 

[billyM]

89's, replied. Let me know if you'd like to come see their handy-work after you talk to them.

I went back and forth about the man door option, and ultimately decided I really didn't need it.

A: Security - You're going to rattle a 16x7 "alarm" getting into the garage, and no closing it behind you once you're in...

B: Usage - it's going to be a storage unit for a couple of supras and some classic bikes. I will get into it once or twice a week to get a vehicle in or out, otherwise the upstairs will hold big spares (wheels/tires), and seasonal stuff (bikes, camping gear, christmas ****). The only time I need in there will be to bring in/out vehicles or large boxes/items on a hand-truck. I will not be using it as a working garage (no heat/air), as I have a basement garage for that. (See signature.)

Insulation:
I have a ton of 4'x8'x3" Styrofoam insulation, and plan to insulate between the rafters from the sill plate up to the peak. The upstairs room has 4ft knee-walls and 8ft ceiling joists, which means 5ft from the sill plate and 3ft from the peak will not have drywall facing, they'll be open to the "attic" space. Is this a mistake?

--billyM

 

[glntom]

Storage for supras....my shop has a resident supra. Man door is a necessity for keeping warm/cool air in while fixing the dreaded blown head gasket.
Seriously nice garage, I fought the same decision on a man door, decided in my case they made good sense. I put one in front for access and a solid metal door in the back wall "just in case" I needed to get out and the front was blocked.

 

[billyM]

I won't say the man-door isn't a good idea, but to this point I haven't had a single experience where I said "dang, wish I had a man-door". We will see as time progresses, and worst-case, I install one later.

While we're on the subject, one of the Supras...

Insulated first floor....

So here is the design of the upstairs room.

This is the location in question. I plan to run 3" Styrofoam between the rafters, top to bottom (with a ~3" gap between the foam and the roof) literally from peak to plate. Now, the rafters below where the knee-wall intersects and above where the ceiling joist intersects will have no sheet-rock facing to them. Should I be concerned about the foam insulation without a facing as a fire accelerant, or not give a damn because it's simply going to be "stuff" storage?

Thanks,
--billyM

 

[billyM]

Wow have I dropped the ball on updates...

I insulated, wired, rocked, painted, and floored since the last pictures (seems like an entirely different place now).

Upstairs:

Downstairs:

I have had cars in there for the last 3-4 months and moved all my wheels and tires upstairs too.
It is too cold now to coat the floor and stem wall, but hope to put in a gravel drive and bury my power this winter.

I'm going for ~6" of crusher-run over fabric to begin with, as it settles I may do a coating of asphalt millings.

--billyM

 

[willyrocket]

Nice build, dont mean to hi jack, but what is the "technical term" for this part of the structure? Also, where did you get the "kit" from? Im eastern NC here....

 

[yucholian]

Looks beautiful, but really no vapor barrier prior to siding???

 

[Kevin54]

Nice build, dont mean to hi jack, but what is the "technical term" for this part of the structure? Also, where did you get the "kit" from? Im eastern NC here....

Helped you out for a response

 

[skibovr6]

Awesome built. Upstairs is amazing

 

[SuperSocket]

I like this build, simple and yet very functional. That space up top looks to be awesome free space. Nice work.

 

[billyM]

Willy, I honestly don't know what that little fascia is called. I refer to it as the "fascia awning", but I'm sure that is way-wrong.

Yucholian, they stated it was not necessary due to not being heated/cooled.

Ski, thanks, it has been a wonderful addition and I'm very glad I did it.

Ockie, the upstairs was very worth-while and I'd suggest it to anyone who can build that height.

Since those photos, I went back and taped off a nice straight line and put a second/third coat on everything. I picked up some 1x4 pressure treated boards to use a bottom trim of the downstairs walls, just don't know if I want to run it through a router first or not...

...again, power gets buried and driveway goes in this winter (work in the unfinished basement has kept me busy this fall) and then we'll coat the floor in the spring!

Thanks for looking everyone,

Enjoy,
--billyM