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3/4 Ratchet Set - Uses?

mikey03

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Speaking of 3/4 drive ratchets is there any high tooth modern ones or are they all 30 tooth? Don’t need any I’m just wondering
 
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^ "Fine tooth" isn't a requisite on 3/4" or 1" drive stuff. You're working with a drive tool that's almost two feet long.
Seems weird to have that in only 20 inch handle are they really meant to have cheater bars over the handles ?
 

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18-20" is pretty much where they start. The Craftsman in my photo is 18". The Gearwrench is close to 40", I've never measured it but it has a 36" handle plus the length of the head. I have another, Allen brand, that is 20".!
 

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I always wanted the EZ-Red extendable 3/4:


The handle adjusts from 24" to almost 40"
I have the EZ red one, it's nice for hub nuts under roll backs being able to break it loose while extended and then shorten it to run it out. A lot quicker than grabbing a 1/2" ratchet with a 3/4" conversion on it. I bought it before HF had the Quinn one, if the EZ Red breaks and they wont warranty it, I'll just get the Quinn.
 
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This is a great discussion and I'm on the lookout for a set. :) I don't know if I can justify a "new" set, but I"m keeping my eye open for a good used set. :D
 

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I have a 5/8" Snap On set my Dad gave me, I use it for hitch balls mostly, not very often, so far I haven't needed anything bigger than that, otherwise I generally reach for my half inch stuff.
 

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When I was a kid, 70s, dad worked construction and bought a cheap for the time 3\4" set of Ja-Pan sockets.
He kept those all these years and when he moved away, gave them to me.
They mostly push in seals but I have used them for front end work.
A farm jack handle is the best extension .
Few years ago tractor supply was closing out 3\4" breaker bars cheap and I bought 3 for lug nuts ($6.99) and a 4' er for $18.

There are no labels on my 3\4 set. Green metal box sockets just marked Japan. Some day I'd like to find out the manufacturer.
 

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I don't know if I can justify a "new" set, but I"m keeping my eye open for a good used set. :D
You do not show your location on your avatar.
I will have a ONE INCH DRIVE set ready to go in a few days, but after checking with USPS, shipping costs might prove to be prohibitive.
For somebody local (or willing to drive to Tacoma) it will be a deal.
 

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Nope never handled one before.
It's not just the ratchets, either. The walls of the sockets are too thick to fit on anything that isn't sitting out in the open. If you have a really thick set of 1/2" impact sockets, picture a smidge more and test to see if they'll fit for your intended use-case.
Sometimes I picture garagejournal users like the ghosts in A Christmas Carol, going through life weighed down by the tools they bought but will never use.
 

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Why do they make 3/4 sockets down to 19 mm? Isn’t the load you can put on a 1/2 drive tool at least triple the load a 19 mm bolt would take before shearing off?

why would you ever need more than 1/2 down to that low?
 

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Sometimes I picture garagejournal users like the ghosts in A Christmas Carol, going through life weighed down by the tools they bought but will never use.
my uncle is like that and I’m started to get real scared I’ll wind up the same. I’m actively trying to downsize tools. Do I really need 1/4 deep sockets? Never used them. if were talking 8 mm and up I got deep 3/8s

im looking hard at all the tools I got and what’s on my wishlist and trying to cut back
 
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my uncle is like that and I’m started to get real scared I’ll wind up the same. I’m actively trying to downsize tools. Do I really need 1/4 deep sockets? Never used them. if were talking 8 mm and up I got deep 3/8s

im looking hard at all the tools I got and what’s on my wishlist and trying to cut back
1/4" deeps are great for working on electrical motors and motor jct. boxes.

If you want to get rid of 'em, I could use a set in both SAE and metric.
 

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1/4" deeps are great for working on electrical motors and motor jct. boxes.

If you want to get rid of 'em, I could use a set in both SAE and metric.
Maybe my problem isn’t too many sockets but too much overlap?

maybe if I did 1/4 deep up to 10 mm and stopped instead of 14 mm like most sets go that would make more sense. And you could say but that’s just getting rid of 4 sockets but then I’d ask why stop at 14? Why not go to 19 mm in 1/4 deep 😂

just because the tool companies all make it doesn’t mean you need it.

i can see shallow in 1/4 drive going to 13 mm since maybe its low profile. But 14 mm is a stretch those are M10 bolts in JIS at least and 1/4 drive going to be tough to hit M10s

but once you get to deep 11 mm+ I think you got enough room for 3/8 drive but idk im still young and learning
 

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Maybe my problem isn’t too many sockets but too much overlap?

maybe if I did 1/4 deep up to 10 mm and stopped instead of 14 mm like most sets go that would make more sense. And you could say but that’s just getting rid of 4 sockets but then I’d ask why stop at 14? Why not go to 19 mm in 1/4 deep 😂

just because the tool companies all make it doesn’t mean you need it.

i can see shallow in 1/4 drive going to 13 mm since maybe its low profile. But 14 mm is a stretch those are M10 bolts in JIS at least and 1/4 drive going to be tough to hit M10s

but once you get to deep 11 mm+ I think you got enough room for 3/8 drive but idk im still young and learning
Concur.

Here's a use case for deep 1/4" sockets I run into fairly often:

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Usually in the 1/4"-3/8" range--or metric equivalent. The threads on the studs are generally too gunked up to just bust the nut loose and spin it off by hand.
 

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Usually in the 1/4"-3/8" range--or metric equivalent. The threads on the studs are generally too gunked up to just bust the nut loose and spin it off by hand.
gee doesn’t even look like a deep socket will fit on the bottom ones. Need to use a pass through socket or a ratcheting wrench maybe
but the top ones you could use 3/8 drive deeps if they came in those sizes and tekton makes 3/8 down to 1/4 “ and 6 mm sizes.


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Why do they make 3/4 sockets down to 19 mm? Isn’t the load you can put on a 1/2 drive tool at least triple the load a 19 mm bolt would take before shearing off?

why would you ever need more than 1/2 down to that low?
12 pt. headed 3/4” bolts will use a 3/4” socket. Broke 2 of them on a Terex TS-24 scraper planetary gear assembly. These were 3/4” dr. sockets
 

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^ In the 1920's Indestro (and others) were manufacturing 1/2" square drive sockets down to 5/16".
It wasn't until the 1940s that most American tool manufacturers went all the way up to 7/16" in their 1/4" drive sets, and 1/4" drive 1/2" sockets came later in most of the American made sets.

7/8" to 2-1/8" here
 

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I always wanted the EZ-Red extendable 3/4:


The handle adjusts from 24" to almost 40"

I bought this Klutch (Northern Tool Brand) version of that 5 or 6 years ago now for $45 shipped. I see now it's listed at Northern for $80. Damn inflation hit tools harder than anything else it seems. It's been a solid ratchet for me. I haven't needed it often, but every time I have it's been where that long MAC breaker in the drawer wouldn't do it so I've needed to extend it full length and reap on it for all I'm worth to get it to budge.

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Before I sold the ranch, I used 3/4 drive a lot for farm type equipment. Those implements live outdoors and rust. Plus, I never bought anything new. In theory, you could use 1/2" drive for almost everything but good luck with that. Things like brush hog blades will just laugh at you.
 

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my uncle is like that and I’m started to get real scared I’ll wind up the same. I’m actively trying to downsize tools. Do I really need 1/4 deep sockets? Never used them. if were talking 8 mm and up I got deep 3/8s

im looking hard at all the tools I got and what’s on my wishlist and trying to cut back
Easy! Easy!

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Hope you are feeling better soon! :bounce:
 

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I’m actively trying to downsize tools. Do I really need 1/4 deep sockets? Never used them. if were talking 8 mm and up I got deep 3/8s

The phrase "never used them" is a good indicator that you can probably get rid of them. Or, if you have multiple copies of them, maybe you can get rid of the multiples.

Every now and then I find them useful for when I bring tools. Maybe I only need the quarter inch set and not the 3/8 and then I still have my deeps.

So you're obviously not running into issues where the head on the 3/8 is too large to get in there
 

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maybe if I did 1/4 deep up to 10 mm and stopped instead of 14 mm like most sets go that would make more sense. And you could say but that’s just getting rid of 4 sockets but then I’d ask why stop at 14? Why not go to 19 mm in 1/4 deep 😂

Then, I could use them for potentiometers and switches, if they didn't have the usual giant chamfer...

Why do they make 3/4 sockets down to 19 mm? Isn’t the load you can put on a 1/2 drive tool at least triple the load a 19 mm bolt would take before shearing off?

I was trying to snap off a shock bolt. The 1/2" drive wouldn't move it, so I thought the 3/4 drive would snap it off. Sadly, the 3/4 provided just enough leverage that I was able to remove the bolt 3 clicks at a time.
 

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Speaking of 3/4 drive ratchets is there any high tooth modern ones or are they all 30 tooth? Don’t need any I’m just wondering

The old USA SK round head is 72 teeth, but it's only 18" long. Wright seems to be one of the few that actually makes a 3/4 ratchet that's at least the necessary minimum of 3' long- all others should come included with a 4' long piece of pipe.
 

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The old USA SK round head is 72 teeth, but it's only 18" long. Wright seems to be one of the few that actually makes a 3/4 ratchet that's at least the necessary minimum of 3' long- all others should come included with a 4' long piece of pipe.
It seems like all the 3/4 drive tools I seen don’t come with a long fixed metal handle. They come with a separate head and you clip it onto a pipe handle end. Seems like that would be weaker than just a long *** thick all metal handle tool tbh

i always imagined a 3/4 drive breaker bar would be like a 1/2 breaker bar but on steroids. Twice as long, twice as thick, ten times as heavy. But when I look on snap on catalogs and now vim tools makes them it’s like a separate head that clips into a pipe handle. Seems kinda weak
 

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It seems like all the 3/4 drive tools I seen don’t come with a long fixed metal handle. They come with a separate head and you clip it onto a pipe handle end. Seems like that would be weaker than just a long *** thick all metal handle tool tbh

i always imagined a 3/4 drive breaker bar would be like a 1/2 breaker bar but on steroids. Twice as long, twice as thick, ten times as heavy. But when I look on snap on catalogs and now vim tools makes them it’s like a separate head that clips into a pipe handle. Seems kinda weak
A few years back TSC had "regular" style 3/4 breaker bars for like $7:

 

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i always imagined a 3/4 drive breaker bar would be like a 1/2 breaker bar but on steroids. Twice as long, twice as thick, ten times as heavy. But when I look on snap on catalogs and now vim tools makes them it’s like a separate head that clips into a pipe handle. Seems kinda weak
I also have this. 40" long and just like a normal breaker bar...

 

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It seems like all the 3/4 drive tools I seen don’t come with a long fixed metal handle. They come with a separate head and you clip it onto a pipe handle end. Seems like that would be weaker than just a long *** thick all metal handle tool tbh

i always imagined a 3/4 drive breaker bar would be like a 1/2 breaker bar but on steroids. Twice as long, twice as thick, ten times as heavy. But when I look on snap on catalogs and now vim tools makes them it’s like a separate head that clips into a pipe handle. Seems kinda weak
You just hurt my torque multipliers feelings...
 

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The 3/4 separate head ratchets used to come with solid bar handles. I doubt that has changed. If you see them with pipe handle, I suspect that is due to the user, not the OEM.
 

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The 3/4 separate head ratchets used to come with solid bar handles. I doubt that has changed. If you see them with pipe handle, I suspect that is due to the user, not the OEM.
Oh maybe they are solid but anyways still seems like a weaker design the weak point is probably how the head clips onto the bar I would guess but idk really
 
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