30x36x12 with Loft upstairs

[Chadscamaro]

Great build. I would love all that space , especially upstairs. Good idea on the 12" heel to get the headroom . In town, I'm limited to 15' max, so little chance for upstairs storage. Will be interesting to see it come together. Thanks.

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Thanks and yeah it was the only way to get the headroom 8' with a 2x12 bottom floor unless we went to 10/12 roof.

 

[JohnnieMo]

That’s a terrific loft. I’m jealous.

Did the builder not envision this headroom issue? Seems like this could be seen coming.

Can you move the stairs inward a bit? Looks like there isn’t a ton of room for that. Maybe make them steeper.

 

[Chadscamaro]

That’s a terrific loft. I’m jealous.

Did the builder not envision this headroom issue? Seems like this could be seen coming.

Can you move the stairs inward a bit? Looks like there isn’t a ton of room for that. Maybe make them steeper.

Yes I do think he saw an issue coming or i hope so and architect/engineer is supposed to be working on a plan as this is the staircase I wanted and there are ways around the issue. Simple is to lower landing but I don't want to do will see what they come up with. The stairs have to be per code so we need the rise as is and I wanted to come into loft as early as possible so first run needed to be high plus I want to put compressor under stair landing.

 

[JohnnieMo]

Probably the easiest fix would be a vertical beam there. It could be used to affix the railing and not be in the way.

The next option is to add more beams to the respective truss and supports in the wall to hold it. It looks like you have a serious header there to work with already.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Yeah the builder said probably a post but engineer may not want it sitting on the concrete possibly a pier although its supposed to be 6" concrete. Im not a builder or engineer but a 6"x6" post I would think is plenty to get the job done properly with additional bracing where truss end is removed. But thats just my guess and I do want it done right and built to last so will see what they say.

 

[Paul_VR6]

Normally you would sister a few trusses, and have joists run perpendicular between them and make the headroom that way. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Yeah that's what it is for the 2nd run but with 90 deg. staircase it fights the trusses the first run.

 

[Chadscamaro]

You can see on snofox pic from page 2 he had similar and large opening created and no beam. Curious how that happened?

 

[Paul_VR6]

Yeah that's what it is for the 2nd run but with 90 deg. staircase it fights the trusses the first run.

Its just they should have done that one or more truss spaces out for the larger bottom run for the stairs.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Yeah its all new to me we did 3ft gap then a doubler because of that gap for 2nd run. I don't think id want trusses spaced more than that across the whole garage but like everything i'm sure there is a way to make this work.

 

[Deezler]

Dang, I see no fix other than to lower the landing. You have to have 6'8" (I think that's code anyway?) between the landing and the bottom of your truss. I believe you can't modify trusses, or they will no longer be engineer approved.

I'm pretty surprised your builder put those up without proper headroom on the landing...

 

[Deezler]

And yeah that big window up in the loft is awesome but it sure looks like the bottom of it is not 2' above the floor - might require it to be safety glass.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Dang, I see no fix other than to lower the landing. You have to have 6'8" (I think that's code anyway?) between the landing and the bottom of your truss. I believe you can't modify trusses, or they will no longer be engineer approved.

I'm pretty surprised your builder put those up without proper headroom on the landing...

I guess I'll find out once the engineer/architect gives the builder his thoughts on it. Hopefully sooner than later. It seems like it would not be an issue but you definitely raise valid points and as far as the window goes we were told we would need a safety bar across the window to pass inspection.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Crazy winter weather keeps slowing things down. The truss company is sending a guy out to see what they would recommend on the headroom so hopefully a resolution is coming. Hardi siding came in and roof shingles started but now rain/sleet more temp. drops etc.

We did get some doors in and walls in loft have plywood now also working on sorting out electric and put a post in electric section about lighting. May do can lights for basic lighting then add more powerful 4ft lights on a 2nd switch to use when working in there.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Moving S L O W plenty of set backs. Weather and lots of sick people mostly but we are getting close to the end. I think *@#$

 

[shortykorte]

Yep not the best time of year. You are getting closer.


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[Styx]

That's a great looking shop and loft for sure. I here you on the stairs issues I had nearly as much problems with mine, a very similar build. I ended up going a little steeper on the upper run but within code here. As it was. moving a couch up there was a MAJOR hassle. I guess an outside stair case was not in the cards???

Cheers Randy.
Feel free to check out my build.

 

[Chadscamaro]

Been a while but structure has been finished for 3-4 months. Stone work took a lot longer then we ran just short so that was another month delay waiting for remainder. Still need to insulate and figure out walls but its been well used so far!

Also just poured concrete in back for rear door ramp and some additional equipment parking out back

 

[Chadscamaro]

Pic of the house with garage and house will be painted at some point to match garage color as we were not a big fan of house color when we bought it.

 

[trashmanssd]

Place looks awesome congrats!

 

[ekyauto]

Final truss design. Did a 12" heel wall to get the room I wanted. Now we just need them built quickly!

Hey I know this is an old thread, but I found your posts super helpful with my build which is almost identical to yours, 30x36x12 with an 8/12 pitch. The problem I was running into was the truss design that I have provides me a 11x36 room vs the 16' wide room that you were able to get. I know it's a long shot, but do you have your truss design in a larger photo?

 

[bored350]

Hey I know this is an old thread, but I found your posts super helpful with my build which is almost identical to yours, 30x36x12 with an 8/12 pitch. The problem I was running into was the truss design that I have provides me a 11x36 room vs the 16' wide room that you were able to get. I know it's a long shot, but do you have your truss design in a larger photo?

Don't know that it will help you, but I can send you my truss drawings for my shop. I built a 34x46 with the 16' wide bonus room but I'm on a 9/12 pitch. I went to the 9/12 instead of 8/12 that would have matched the house because of the knee wall gain. Couldn't justify a 30' wide building for what I had planned so 34' kept the cost reasonable. One other thing to consider, I ran the staircase along the back wall with a 90° turn but I put the landing at the turn and the last few steps on the outside of the shop yet kept it inside the building with a bump out.
Ignore the bathroom location, it was moved over to the staircase side of the building.

 

[ekyauto]

Thanks. I ended up talking to my truss engineer and he was able to get me to 13ft wide without the a super high heel, I think I’m at 9in. I love the idea of the bump out, wish I would’ve known about that before the footings were poured! Oh well… I’m still a little torn about the stairs and placement (inside vs out), I’d love the ability to save space in the garage by putting them outside, but it’s an annual maintenance task that I really like to avoid.