30x40 Garage/Shop

[porschedude996TT]

The roof went on this weekend and the electrical is about 80-90% on the rough-in. I set the eight skylights and 30# felt. Had a young relative-in-law and his brother nail the roof down. Thank God for youth...

The plumbing rough-in is done and tested. Let me explain the need for the wall mounted toilet. My existing 3" drain line was at the end of the run and the top of the pipe was only 6" under the soil. To install a toilet in the shop needed to either put in a closet carrier (see picture) or a basement lift system. I really didn't want to depend on electrical power to flush the toilet and at some point the lift pump will fail and would rather not deal with leftover food...

There is finished concrete all the way around the house and the line runs to the street under the house. The standard toilet needs about 15-1/2" to the top of the drain pipe to incorporate a Sanitary Tee, a 90 degree sweep, and a toilet flange to the slab level of the floor. I didn't want a raised floor restroom either. So there was a few hundred dollars to overcome the problem with the closet carrier and the wall mount toilet.

What's next?

Exterior Lighting
Air piping in walls, 1 or 2 reg panels, 5 or 6 drops with QD's
Vacuum piping in walls
Exhaust System with damper to vent shop
Water to restroom
Alarm System
Doors
Interior closets
Drywall
Siding
Cabinets and benches

 

[porschedude996TT]

Not much to show in pictures, but I've been working on it three days a week;
interior framing, blocking, electrical circuits, shop air system, attic ladders, water supply.
I wanted to make some changes to my build plans. The changes were primarily the electrical. This is my first structure build and things look so much clearer when it has some form to it rather than on paper. I had changed the fixture count and hardwired rather than having outlets in the ceiling, the placement was changed over a couple of feet from the initial location, I added a couple of 240V circuits. I also found out that nobody makes a breaker (100amp) for my existing main electrical panel that feeds my new shop subpanel so I need to upgrade the main panel. The conductors were sized for the new (125amp) panel and the new meter service panel will drop right in the existing location and everything looks like it will reach. My city doesn’t like anyone to redline the original set of plans, they like to do it, and so I redlined a second copy with my revisions. I think there were four sheets affected and they charged me $175.53. I think I was last week’s funding for the entire city. LOL
I guess it is a small price to pay since I have been saving on materials since the economy tanked.

 

[porschedude996TT]

It has been some time since I have updated.

Thus far I have had the following sucessful inspections from the city:
Roof Sheeting and Nailing
Shear Paneling
Framing
Rough Electrical
Rough Plumbing and Venting
Service Entrance OK for meter

I have completed some more systems in the shop:
Compressed Air Distribution
Natural Gas Line
Shop Vacuum
Shop Venting (Fumes)

I have been working on the forced air furnace ducting and plan to insulate and drywall next.

My wife works for a cabinet shop and the forman is designing cabinets this week. Most of the material is some end cut scraps that they have from a hospital elevator job. Looks like stainless, but is a plastic laminate. Then doors and drawers will be made of this material and the bench tops will be butcher block.

That's it for now.

KW

 

[porschedude996TT]

Starting to come together... Looks great!

Regards,

Stan

Thanks Stan, I'm starting to get tired and need a vacation...

 

[porschedude996TT]

Heater ducting is in and the heater is all assembled and ready to install after the drywall is installed. I got a great deal on the heater, it was a damaged/dropped off the truck that I bent back into shape.

The picture with the gray cabinet door is where the surround sound systems goes and the piping below the cabinet is where the Stainless Prep-Sink goes.

Waiting on Speaker Wire that got back ordered. After that the insulation guy gets turned on and then the drywall guy will be called.

The siding came to other day. It is called Weathered Board by Certainteed. It s pre-painted and should go up quick.

 

[e-tek]

What an AWESOME build. You are going to be SO happy in your new home
I missed what the extra room is for....is it seperate storage?
You've put a lot of thought into the details like the upper storage loft and ladder.

 

[bmwpower]

The slab was a two step process, footing / stem wall and then floor. The drop in front of the floor in the door opening is one pour. How is that going to effect cracking?

The tractor is a Kubota and it has two models. One on the engine cover and the other on the front implment. ???

RX223 and LA221 respectively.

Better late than never (for me)...whoops...missed your response.

I thought the dropdown was part of the floor, so you're probably good then. What I was trying to describe was since you cut the floor and stopped at the dropdown, that if the control joint began doing what it's supposed to do (crack inside the cut), that the crack would likely continue in a straight line onto the dropdown.

Looks good! I'm jealous. I missing building stuff.

 

[porschedude996TT]

What an AWESOME build. You are going to be SO happy in your new home
I missed what the extra room is for....is it seperate storage?
You've put a lot of thought into the details like the upper storage loft and ladder.

Hey e-tek, the extra room is for the for tool storage and above is for the forced air heater. What really extends the build time is the thinking in between. Geeee if I did this and threw some money at it it would be...

The latest has been the speaker wire and where to put the components. The area with the cabinet door is for the surround sound amp, the Dish System, and a computer.

Better late than never (for me)...whoops...missed your response.

I thought the dropdown was part of the floor, so you're probably good then. What I was trying to describe was since you cut the floor and stopped at the dropdown, that if the control joint began doing what it's supposed to do (crack inside the cut), that the crack would likely continue in a straight line onto the dropdown.

Looks good! I'm jealous. I missing building stuff.

Thanks for the good comments from both of you, it has been exhausting when one is the only one working on the project, planning what comes next, and submitting changes to the building dept. and working a grueling 40+ hrs a week job. I look forward to working in the shop and retirement some years from now. I hope to get into custom fabrication of specialty wine making products and hot rod custom parts that I will make in the shop. Imagine making parts in exchange for wine...now I call that bliss...

 

[GHOSTDANCER]

Good looking build.

 

[porschedude996TT]

I hired a crew to insulate the shop. It made sense to outsource the work since the cost of the materials was within 80% of the bid. They were done in about 5 hours. Now I am ready to "Rock-N-Roll" "Drywall". I also hired out for this since I really don't want to lift 5/8 sheet-rock 14 feet in the air...

I'll start the siding on the outside this weekend.

 

[porschedude996TT]

After buying a new air compressor the other day, I re-thought the idea to put in a fixed station air pressure regulator. I had to do a little replumbing and it didn't cost an arm and a leg...

Drywall started today. They under estimated how much drywall and time.

 

[wayoff]

Drywall started today. They under estimated how much drywall and time.

***** to be them. Not your problem. Don't say anything one way or another, just pay only what they quoted you when you get the bill.

 

[porschedude996TT]

The Dry Wall sure is messy. Man there is dust and droppings all over the place. It sure looks good seeing the walls flat and starting to take form. I may be able to start painting the wall this weekend or next.

 

[porschedude996TT]

A few more pics...

 

[porschedude996TT]

The drywall is done and I am going to start painting tomorrow. I think I am going with the new Bear Paint and Primer in one. It is about $150 for 5gals in Semi-Gloss, I'll need about 10gals total. Color will be pure base Ultra White. The garage doors should be in by now and I hope to schedule the install next week. Cabinets have been finished for some time and they will go in after the doors. I'm planned to go with the wolverine paint adn wonder it I should install the cabinets and then paint. That would reduce the are to be covered. Any thoughts?

 

[KarateBoy]

Your garage looks beautiful. So beautiful it warrants my first post.

You mentioned installing a shop vacuum. Is that going to be in the walls like the air? If so, how does that work?

 

[rlme36]

The drywall is done and I am going to start painting tomorrow. I think I am going with the new Bear Paint and Primer in one. It is about $150 for 5gals in Semi-Gloss, I'll need about 10gals total. Color will be pure base Ultra White. The garage doors should be in by now and I hope to schedule the install next week. Cabinets have been finished for some time and they will go in after the doors. I'm planned to go with the wolverine paint adn wonder it I should install the cabinets and then paint. That would reduce the are to be covered. Any thoughts?

I like the look that the sky lights add to it.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Your garage looks beautiful. So beautiful it warrants my first post.

You mentioned installing a shop vacuum. Is that going to be in the walls like the air? If so, how does that work?

Thanks KarateBoy, the vacuum tubing is in the walls/ceiling and the Vacuum Power Head resides in one of the Storage area above the 10' Ceiling. The discharge air from the Vacuum Head vents outside. I think it will reduce the noise to almost nothing.

I like the look that the sky lights add to it.

Thanks rime36, I think the bull-nosed drywall makes it look even better. The cost for the skylights was not cheap, but it should payoff with added light during the day.

I finished the masking for the interior paint tomorrow. I'm trying the new Behr PREMIUM PLUS ULTRA Semi-Gloss, it includes primer in the paint. I hope it covers well. Each 5gal pail was $152 plus tax.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Two coats of paint (30gals). Man was that texture coat thirsty... HD was out of 5gal buckets up and down to coast. I guess it is popular. I am going to call the garage door people tomorrow and see if I can get on the schedule.

 

[Steve from Socal]

That turned out very nicely, enough lumps and bumps to break up the space. The skylight look fantastic and the deep recesses give it coffered ceiling effect.

Steve

 

[porschedude996TT]

Thanks Steve, I think I can do a lot of work in the shop without turning on a light. At least that was the plan. My wife likes the bull-nosed corners and now she would like them in the house...

 

[T VETTE]

I just got into this thread today and looks like you really put a lot of sweat and equity in this shop. Very nice job.

You could live in there, only missing a bed. Did I speak too soon? I plan to do a small building next spring but not to this level due to lack of time and $.

I really appreciate when guys like you take the time to post these builds.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Thanks T VETTE, you are right on the sweat. It seems all the help that I was thinking I was going to get never/seldom appeared. Except for my darling Wife who is willing to do anything but she can't read my mind. I'm still working on that...LOL You know when you are working and your helping hand doesn't need to be directed and you are on the same page?

All in all, I can look back and say I built it myself, except where is didn't make sense to do so. (Insulation, Drywall) They were either cheaper or faster than the time I wanted to expend.

 

[e-tek]

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!! You're one lucky ******! Love the details and thought that went in, looking forward to continue following the build.

 

[porschedude996TT]

The cabinet are mostly installed. They came up missing two doors. Material is on order and they should have them made and installed in a week or two. No hurry, lots of things to do, busy-busy-busy...

The cabinet face frames will be painted the same color as the drawers and doors, it should make the black banding around the drawers and doors really pop. The upper most by-pass doors are going the same color as the face frames. I think they draw the eye away from the rest of the shop.

I should have enough storage unless I follow the ways of "OldCarGuy". He's got more tools than the law allows...LOL

The ceiling light-Puffs came in today also. I will start installing them this weekend.

Ok, before I get asked why the upper cabinets are so shallow, here goes. I seem to forget the items that are elbow deep in a cabinet and with this design, I can't go elbow deep in the upper cabinets. It also allows over head lighting to cast light in front of someone standing/sitting at the bench and have enough room above the bench top to work.

 

[PurdueSD]

Nice, I really like the upper cabinets being shallow, they stay out of the way when using the bench top!

What color are you painting them?

 

[porschedude996TT]

Nice, I really like the upper cabinets being shallow, they stay out of the way when using the bench top!

What color are you painting them?

Thanks PurdueSD, I think I'll match the color of the doors in a semi-gloss. The doors and drawers are formica that has a brushed metalic look like stainless steel. Not real evident in the photos. I had another idea last night about the upper by-pass doors. I was thinking of a custom vinyl covering rather than painting them. Not sure if I would put logos or racing flags, or something...

 

[rieferman]

Except for my darling Wife who is willing to do anything but she can't read my mind. I'm still working on that...LOL You know when you are working and your helping hand doesn't need to be directed and you are on the same page?

Awesome build, but you knew that

This quote is great... I keep telling my wife (she helps here and there, but not too much) that she need to try to anticipate a little better. Last night I was running an extension cord for temporary power, and the far end kept getting caught on things... she just kept watching it happen, and watching me walk all the way over there and free it. She just doesn't get it that as a helper, seeing these little annoyances is one of the most helpful things you can do.

Sorry, that turned into a vent

 

[Call me the Breeze]

Looking Good!

 

[nennam]

Very clean cut n stylish garage. Good work porchedud996TT! Looking forward to see it finished.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Thanks rieferman, breeze and nennam, I'll be glad when the build is over and I am all moved in and then I can start on the attached garage make-over. After many years it will be nice to put the daily drivers in the garage at night.

 

[porschedude996TT]

I got the 14 of the lights installed and wired yesterday. Today I'll start the switches and recepticals.

What do you think?

 

[Spyder207]

Looks great! Where did you get the cabinets from?

 

[ct71rr]

Looks awesome!! What kind of lights are you using?

 

[porschedude996TT]

Looks great! Where did you get the cabinets from?

Spyder, thanks, my wife works for a small home town cabinet maker. I keep their computers running both at work and the owners computers at home as well as the home theater. So we get things cheap or free.

Looks awesome!! What kind of lights are you using?

ct71rr, thanks, it has been a ton of work. The lights are Lithonia Lightpuffs. They are 4 tube T-8's. I got them at HD for $116 each.

 

[ct71rr]

OK, thanks for the info. Again, awesome garage!!!

 

[sharage71]

you must be a Dr or something to afford such a build. 1500 bucks for paint. I'm totally jealous.

 

[rustyfords]

I've been lurking for some time, but I feel compelled to post something about this build.

Congrats man, on a superb project. This is a beautiful and functional workspace in the making and you are to be congratulated.

I built in a neighborhood with massive lots for just this reason. I have almost an acre behind my house that is sitting mostly unused at present, but I plan to have a shop about this same size back there one day.

I've been debating whether to with a metal or stick frame building and noticed that you went the wood route. Just curious...what made you go with wood vs. metal?

 

[porschedude996TT]

I've been lurking for some time, but I feel compelled to post something about this build.

Congrats man, on a superb project. This is a beautiful and functional workspace in the making and you are to be congratulated.

I built in a neighborhood with massive lots for just this reason. I have almost an acre behind my house that is sitting mostly unused at present, but I plan to have a shop about this same size back there one day.

I've been debating whether to with a metal or stick frame building and noticed that you went the wood route. Just curious...what made you go with wood vs. metal?

Thanks rusty! What I really like is the feeling of doing it all myself (almost).

To answer your question, I went with wood because I have never been in or around a metal stud house. I have never seen one in my area or had a chance to seek one out. I didn't want the build to be an experiment.

If you mean a metal building, I didn't want a prefabbed metal building because of their looks and I couldn't save as much money on the overall project. Metal buildings are great for someone who needs the building done NOW or lives in a more rural location. I believe the trade off is having someone fabricate the structure in a factory which reduces the on-site labor. I also have a dormant home owners association and didn't want shake anyone up. It is very visible from the street that runs behind my house and a metal structure may attract some undesirables. With this build it could just about anything. A metal building means business, warehouse, or something else.

 

[porschedude996TT]

you must be a Dr or something to afford such a build. 1500 bucks for paint. I'm totally jealous.

My boss calls me Doctor, but only jokingly. $1500 bucks is worth every penny to reduce the dust that I would have if I didn't paint the floor with something. I know, epoxy is not paint...I am using the term as a verb.