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I'm finally getting to buy the small acreage in the country I've always wanted, which means I finally have room for a shop. I'm thinking 30x40, and I'll put in a little office in there somewhere down the road. I'll need to pay someone to prepare the site and pour the concrete, and will likely hire someone to build the main structure. I did some searching but couldn't find all the info I was looking for. For those of you that have done something similar:

Do you have a steel building or a pole building?
If steel, who did you buy it from?
Did you hire an erector, or DIY? How much did it cost to pay someone to put it up?
How much did the kit cost?

Just looking to gather information right now, I'm located in Northwest Missouri.

Thanks!
 
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I added a 30X40 to my existing shop(also 30x40). It's steel and the cost of materials was about $15,000 and labor was $15,000. The contractor ordered the materials which included: 2x10' roll up doors, 4 windows and material(steel) for a 14'x80' lean to.
Concrete was $30,000 which included the pad for the shop, 14'x80' lean to and small driveway to the shop.
This was done February/March of this year. This was done in Texas, so not sure if prices in your area are comparable.
 

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I'm finally getting to buy the small acreage in the country I've always wanted, which means I finally have room for a shop. I'm thinking 30x40, and I'll put in a little office in there somewhere down the road. I'll need to pay someone to prepare the site and pour the concrete, and will likely hire someone to build the main structure. I did some searching but couldn't find all the info I was looking for. For those of you that have done something similar:

Do you have a steel building or a pole building?
If steel, who did you buy it from?
Did you hire an erector, or DIY? How much did it cost to pay someone to put it up?
How much did the kit cost?

Just looking to gather information right now, I'm located in Northwest Missouri.

Thanks!
> Do you have a steel building or a pole building?
I've had both. 1200 pole (over concrete) and 2400ft steel (over concrete)

> If steel, who did you buy it from?
Kit from Mueller

> Did you hire an erector, or DIY? How much did it cost to pay someone to put it up?
I had it put up. Erection cost 3-4 years ago was about the same cost as the kit.
I have help people put them up (bolt up) - don't recommend unless retired and you have 2 helpers + equipment.
Costs were 1/3 foundation, 1/3 kit, 1/3 labor. $90k 3-4 years ago all in for a shell. It's probably 50-70% higher now.
 

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I purchased a standard series kit from Mueller. Its a 30 x 40 12ft walls for 10,500 dropped off at my property. They have good pricing information on their site.

The slab for the building was 5200 material + 1600 for pour and finish labor . I prepared EVERYTHING. They just poured and finished.

I did all the work myself and I have a skid steer, all in I'm at 23 or 24k for my shop. There are a lot of little expenses that really increase the price quickly.

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I purchased a standard series kit from Mueller. Its a 30 x 40 12ft walls for 10,500 dropped off at my property. Then have good pricing information on their site.

The slab for the building was 5500 with just finishing labor. I prepared EVERYTHING. They just poured and finished.

I did all the work myself and I have a skid steer, all in I'm at 23 or 24k for my shop. There are a lot of little expenses that really increase the price quickly.

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Nice! When did you do this project? Did the $10,500 include the insulation?
 

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We have two Mueller steel buildings; the first is 40 by 60. I hired the concrete guy separately from the building assembler as the assembler didn’t feel competent to oversee the slab. The second building is 30 by 80 and was a turn key project. That one has finished rooms on the inside; three walls are stick construction and made the interior work much easier. Thread here:
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I posted some pics a while back of the 40 by 60 but can’t find the thread.
 
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We have two Mueller steel buildings; the first is 40 by 60. I hired the concrete guy separately from the building assembler as the assembler didn’t feel competent to oversee the slab. The second building is 30 by 80 and was a turn key project. That one has finished rooms on the inside; three walls are stick construction and made the interior work much easier. Thread here:
30 by 80
I posted some pics a while back of the 40 by 60 but can’t find the thread.
What was the cost of the 40x60?

I just outlined my build in this similar thread starting at post #10: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...42x32-12ft-doors-menards.490773/#post-9355831
I actually just came across that thread, looks real nice. Unfortunately I don't think that builder works in my area, I'm North of Kansas City.
 

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What was the cost of the 40x60?
Both buildings cost 43K. The 40 by 60 in 2004 and the 30 by 80 in 2015. Talk to Mueller but my understanding is that the main supports are where much of the steel cost is - so skinny and long is cheaper than short and fat.
 

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A kit like that Mueller setup is the way to go if you stick to their standard stuff. It gets pricey if you start changing sizes and options.
 

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35 x 45 x 14
35 x 20 front awning
2 insulated man doors
2 insulated 10 x 12 garage doors
Spray foam insulation
5” slab
Lots of concrete to main driveway
Roughly around $60K or so.
I hired a contractor and they just brought everything and put up the building. They got everything from a local steel supplier.

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Nice! When did you do this project? Did the $10,500 include the insulation?

Ordered the shop March 18 2021, arrived May 12
Broke ground for slab prep May 13.
Poured Concrete September 18
Started the erecting October 15

I did all the work myself and as I had time so it took a while. Right as I was ready to pour Monsoon season struck and we had one of the craziest wettest ones ever so that held everything up for a couple months.

The insulation was free and not included in the price. It would have added about 4k of additional costs if I had to purchase it, and that would have been for the 3" stuff, I have R19 so 6" insulation.

To add to Bradpac's comment, standard series kit was 10,500 to the door. I asked to take that standard kit and move the 10x10 opening to the 40ft side and add another opening. That request jumped the price to 15-16K pre shipping and tax.
 
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A kit like that Mueller setup is the way to go if you stick to their standard stuff. It gets pricey if you start changing sizes and options.
Looks like currently their standard 30x40x12 cost $14k-$15k. Seems reasonable I think?
35 x 45 x 14
35 x 20 front awning
2 insulated man doors
2 insulated 10 x 12 garage doors
Spray foam insulation
5” slab
Lots of concrete to main driveway
Roughly around $60K or so.
I hired a contractor and they just brought everything and put up the building. They got everything from a local steel supplier.
Very nice looking shop!
Ordered the shop March 18 2021, arrived May 12
Broke ground for slab prep May 13.
Poured Concrete September 18
Started the erecting October 15

I did all the work myself and as I had time so it took a while. Right as I was ready to pour Monsoon season struck and we had one of the craziest wettest ones ever so that held everything up for a couple months.

The insulation was free and not included in the price. It would have added about 4k of additional costs if I had to purchase it, and that would have been for the 3" stuff, I have R19 so 6" insulation.

To add to Bradpac's comment, standard series kit was 10,500 to the door. I asked to take that standard kit and move the 10x10 opening to the 40ft side and add another opening. That request jumped the price to 15-16K pre shipping and tax.
I would like to do all of it myself as well, other than the concrete. Was putting the building up difficult? Do you have prior experience with this sort of thing?

Has anyone heard of Big Buildings Direct? They have a 28x40 that looks to have two rollup doors, a man door, and a few windows for just under $18k, installed. Seems like a good deal.
 

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I put up a 24x24 kit for my brother-in-law before my 30x40, zero experience prior to that. I will tell you that it is a completely different animal. the bigger building has 12ft walls and even higher peak, as well as a VERY heavy center support section. But his went up good, and my shop went up great. It was easy and not complicated at all. I would think that any competent person could do this, just take your time and be sure to research all the processes and requirements so you know its done right.

My sister, brother-in-law, and myself took of a full week to put the building up. We thought it was going to be 3 or 4 days tops comparing it to his building that went up in about 2 days. It took us all of 7 days to get it up. You really do need 3 people min for some of the parts and pieces but you can make it work with 2 for the vast majority of the time.

the 30x40 has a super beefy center main beam that weighs about 500lbs, it was sketchy to lift into place because all we had was a smallish scissor lift (19ft).

I will quote some info I gave in another thread as I fell it has some good info.

I would shy away from the VersaTube buildings, they just don't seem all that rigid. Look at some before you pull the trigger at the very least.

I chose to go the cheapest, most involved rout of doing the majority of the work myself, and overseeing the work I didn't do. I have time, and the ability to do the work. I also enjoy doing these things.

I really did look at doing a poll building vs a steel building. The price for a wood building was more expensive than the Mueller building I purchased. Trusses were also very difficult for me to source, and I'm not going to make my own that span 30ft. I did the steel building because it is an engineered building with all the load calculations already done. One of my neighbors built their own garage and it collapsed in a big storm, I don't want to take that kind of chance.

I chose to do a monolithic slab with anchors drilled after the fact, it was the cheapest pour labor wise for me. Pumps, conveyor, or buggies are needed if you do a pour after the walls are up. Pumping also changes the mix and increase price on the raw material, at least it does here. I decided to do drilled anchors after the fact because I was worried about a potential blow out or accident shifting my templates and causing bigger issues.

Important things to consider if doing it yourself.

I purchased the building direct from a manufacturer, and set up delivery. It was my responsibility to insure the delivery truck (40ft semi) was able to drop the materials where I wanted them. I had to cut part of my gate so the material would fit through. Otherwise they WILL drop it on the side of the road.

I did all the foundation prep. I ordered the ABC, layered, and compacted it all to grade with a skid steer I already owned. I didn't have a fancy laser level so I made myself a water level. I rented a mini excavator to dig the footers, etc.

I set the forms making sure they were square and strong enough to withstand a bump here or there and not blow out. Laid out, tied, and put the rebar on dobies because "pulling up" is unreliable in my experience.

I was super worried about getting a good pour and finish. Being that I did all the prep work, which is vital to a stable and strong slab, I waived any warranties. I reached out to 2 concrete delivery companies and asked for referrals. I reached out to all and made a spreadsheet. I asked them all detailed questions about the process and ran away from the ones that said they would add water here or there, or spray it with water. I also inquired about how they would handle the 100+ degree day pour. The most knowledgeable just happened to be the cheapest, and was actually a driver for the company. All of the companies listed on Google were either not interested or expensive, $5000 in just pour and finish labor.

I had the guy doing the pour set up the batch how he liked it, I verified it and paid the plant directly after addressing any concerns.

They came, poured, and finished. The slab looks amazing, and there were no issues during the process.

My red iron building costs so far.
30x40 red iron building delivered ($10,500) Bare kit no insulation or roll up door, just an opening.
24 Tons of ABC ($750)
Compactor Rental ($200)
Excavator Rental ($300)
Concrete Forms and Stakes ($600) Crazy high wood prices!
Rebar, Rebar Chairs, and Wire ($1000)
Concrete labor ($1600)
30 yards of Concrete ($5200) Hot weather + high flow = $$$ Water reducer, cold water, fiber, all adds up.
Saw rental for cutting joints ($100)
Anchors ($400)
Scissor lift rental ($650) I was hesitant to spend this but it would have been impossible to get it done without it.

If I didn't have my own skid steer that would be another $1000.

I'm around the 23K mark with all the small nickel and dime expenses not captured here. Several Turn key red iron buildings of the same size were quoted 38k to 50k, minus the concrete. Several of the modular tube buildings were quoted at 20k for erection on a slab that was not included in the price. Several concrete contractors wanted 8k to 10k in just labor for site prep pour and finish.

If you have any specific questions let me know.
 
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I went all wood pole barn for my 30x40x12 building, w 10x40 loft above, costs are probably quite a bit higher as I am up in Taxachusetts.

My barn builder offered a few options.
1 - Kit form 36k all lumber cut to size, plans, trusses, ship lap siding, roof sheathing and metal roof.
2 - Fully erected building 69k on a prepped site
3 - Turn key - was never in the budget so I didn't ask!

I ended up doing all the site prep plus holes for the poles to be set and had them put up the entire shell for the agreed 69k. I then did/am doing everything else. The other costs I have kept track of are below -

6 large trees dropped - 3200
60 tons of 3/4 crushed stone - 900
2" Foam Insulation for under slab - 1400
Wire mesh and vapor barrier - about 1000
Pex Tubing and manifold for radiant plus misc parts pieces - 700
22yd Concrete slab (approx 5-6" thick) and finishing - 4600
12x10 insulated garage door (prof installed) - 5500
Meter socket/panel/pipe/wire for service - 1000
Power Co hook up - 1100
Misc lumber to frame inside walls for finish - 1000
Spray foam R38 Rook R21 Walls - 9100
Outkast Q8 Log Home Stain - 2200

Still to purchase -
Lighting/electrical supplies - 2k
Ship lap for interior - 5k
Boiler for Radiant - ??
Mini Split for loft and garage area - ??
Loft area finish - ??
Ceiling in main garage- ??
Stuff I need but don't know it yet - who knows?!?!

So all in as of right now I'm at about 108k in known costs. My goal was to be done for about 120k, so I think I'll be close. I may be adding solar to the barn to cover the house and it's electric, so that would add 30K, but can't really count that as part of the barn project.
 
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I put up a 24x24 kit for my brother-in-law before my 30x40, zero experience prior to that. I will tell you that it is a completely different animal. the bigger building has 12ft walls and even higher peak, as well as a VERY heavy center support section. But his went up good, and my shop went up great. It was easy and not complicated at all. I would think that any competent person could do this, just take your time and be sure to research all the processes and requirements so you know its done right.

My sister, brother-in-law, and myself took of a full week to put the building up. We thought it was going to be 3 or 4 days tops comparing it to his building that went up in about 2 days. It took us all of 7 days to get it up. You really do need 3 people min for some of the parts and pieces but you can make it work with 2 for the vast majority of the time.

the 30x40 has a super beefy center main beam that weighs about 500lbs, it was sketchy to lift into place because all we had was a smallish scissor lift (19ft).

I will quote some info I gave in another thread as I fell it has some good info.

I would shy away from the VersaTube buildings, they just don't seem all that rigid. Look at some before you pull the trigger at the very least.
Thanks for all the info. I've been continuing to do research, and Mueller seems to be the most cost-effective. I've got a quote for a 30x40x12 with 3" vinyl insulation, one 10'x'10' overhead door, and one 3'x7' walk in door for $18,491 (base kit was $14,195 for my wind and snow load). add in concrete and I'm probably looking at around $23,000 to get the building up. Seems like a pretty good deal to me!

I did a little more comparison to the Big Buildings Direct building and I definitely didn't like that it was tube instead of red iron, but it was attractive at first that it was just under $18,000 installed. But by the time you add in the insulation and doors that came with the Mueller building and not with this building, Big Buildings Direct was about $5,000 more expensive, which is probably similar to how much it would cost me to have someone put it up. I would like to put this one up myself though, so Mueller seems like the choice. It'll be a while until I actually have the money together to start the project, but it's nice to get some of this research out of the way.

I went all wood pole barn for my 30x40x12 building, w 10x40 loft above, costs are probably quite a bit higher as I am up in Taxachusetts.

My barn builder offered a few options.
1 - Kit form 36k all lumber cut to size, plans, trusses, ship lap siding, roof sheathing and metal roof.
2 - Fully erected building 69k on a prepped site
3 - Turn key - was never in the budget so I didn't ask!

I ended up doing all the site prep plus holes for the poles to be set and had them put up the entire shell for the agreed 69k. I then did/am doing everything else. The other costs I have kept track of are below -

6 large trees dropped - 3200
60 tons of 3/4 crushed stone - 900
2" Foam Insulation for under slab - 1400
Wire mesh and vapor barrier - about 1000
Pex Tubing and manifold for radiant plus misc parts pieces - 700
22yd Concrete slab (approx 5-6" thick) and finishing - 4600
12x10 insulated garage door (prof installed) - 5500
Meter socket/panel/pipe/wire for service - 1000
Power Co hook up - 1100
Misc lumber to frame inside walls for finish - 1000
Spray foam R38 Rook R21 Walls - 9100
Outkast Q8 Log Home Stain - 2200

Still to purchase -
Lighting/electrical supplies - 2k
Ship lap for interior - 5k
Boiler for Radiant - ??
Mini Split for loft and garage area - ??
Loft area finish - ??
Ceiling in main garage- ??
Stuff I need but don't know it yet - who knows?!?!

So all in as of right now I'm at about 108k in known costs. My goal was to be done for about 120k, so I think I'll be close. I may be adding solar to the barn to cover the house and it's electric, so that would add 30K, but can't really count that as part of the barn project.
Sounds like you're going to have a nice building, I do hope mine comes in considerably less than yours though!
 

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The slab for the building was 5500 with just finishing labor. I prepared EVERYTHING. They just poured and finished.

That's one hell of a deal. I poured 100% more concrete turn key for 4x that amount 3 years ago in the same state. It's probably 2x that price now turn key.

You've got it dialed in on "bang for the buck" in terms of putting a shop up.

That being said, I've helped put up Mueller bolt-up buildings, what a pain in the ***... There is a reason that weld up costs less in labor!
 
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That's one hell of a deal. I poured 100% more concrete turn key for 4x that amount 3 years ago in the same state. It's probably 2x that price now turn key.

You've got it dialed in on "bang for the buck" in terms of putting a shop up.

That being said, I've helped put up Mueller bolt-up buildings, what a pain in the ***... There is a reason that weld up costs less in labor!
Sounds like some good pricing for sure.

I'm glad we went weld up with mine, I was able to do some things like overhangs, and a 6:12 pitch that getting in a pre-engineered building drive the costs way up. My concrete for my 30x30 was $12,000 though, but I'm on the east side of Austin, on black clay, no rocks at all. 30" beams with a 6" slab.
 

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That's one hell of a deal. I poured 100% more concrete turn key for 4x that amount 3 years ago in the same state. It's probably 2x that price now turn key.

You've got it dialed in on "bang for the buck" in terms of putting a shop up.

That being said, I've helped put up Mueller bolt-up buildings, what a pain in the ***... There is a reason that weld up costs less in labor!


I completely goofed that number, it was $5200 for material, and $1600 labor. So it was really $6800 finished. Its about 5 to 6 inches thick with big footers, it took every last bit of the 30 yards I ordered.

I'm pretty decent at finding good deals!

Are weld ups really that much easier? A good pair of spud wrenches and it seemed pretty easy to put up. We just took our time and followed the instructions. I will say that their instructions are defiantly lacking for novices like myself.
 

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RR Buildings in Illinois just put up a video outlining their cost for building a 30x40 post beam construction garage. He actually built this particular building in 2018, so he included the price then and also what it would cost today. Prices in other parts of the country will vary, but I think it's a good reference for what is involved in a build this size.

How Much Does It Cost To Build A Post Frame?
 
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RR Buildings in Illinois just put up a video outlining their cost for building a 30x40 post beam construction garage. He actually built this particular building in 2018, so he included the price then and also what it would cost today. Prices in other parts of the country will vary, but I think it's a good reference for what is involved in a build this size.

How Much Does It Cost To Build A Post Frame?
I'll have to take a look at that video, thank you!
 

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Are weld ups really that much easier? A good pair of spud wrenches and it seemed pretty easy to put up. We just took our time and followed the instructions. I will say that their instructions are defiantly lacking for novices like myself.
First hand, I don't know, as I've only "helped" with bolt-ups. Word from a local steel building GC is that the labor cost is 20-30% more on bolt up, apparently more precision required. That being said, bolt-ups come often come with engineered (stamped) drawings and such is "required" in certain areas around here, dunno how you get a stamp on a weld-up building w/o an engineer on site after....
 

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First hand, I don't know, as I've only "helped" with bolt-ups. Word from a local steel building GC is that the labor cost is 20-30% more on bolt up, apparently more precision required. That being said, bolt-ups come often come with engineered (stamped) drawings and such is "required" in certain areas around here, dunno how you get a stamp on a weld-up building w/o an engineer on site after....
My weld up had engineered drawings done per my/the erector's design, then the engineer inspected the frame after it was done. It helped that the erector has a good working relationship with the engineer.
 

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A kit like that Mueller setup is the way to go if you stick to their standard stuff. It gets pricey if you start changing sizes and options.

My material cost quote for 30x40x12 shop build from mueller' 3D design tool is $28k, which is 2x of their STANDARD SERIES - BIG WORKSHOP - 30' X 40' X 12' kit

What factors significantly affect material price? (roof pitch? gutter? door/window?) With the kit can I add additional door / windows?
 

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My material cost quote for 30x40x12 shop build from mueller' 3D design tool is $28k, which is 2x of their STANDARD SERIES - BIG WORKSHOP - 30' X 40' X 12' kit

What factors significantly affect material price? (roof pitch? gutter? door/window?) With the kit can I add additional door / windows?
When we did our first Mueller building (2005) the main I beam supports were the biggest factor - wider was more expensive. That was when China was buying up so much steel and I don’t know if that’s still the case.
 

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My 30x40 total is currently 60K.
 

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my mueller 30x40x14 with a center hight of 19 foot roof pitch 6/12- 12x14 front opening with man door and a 8x8 door on side. Gutters, insulation and trim all included. Roll up Doors are not included as they are currently on national backorder for parts. This is a weld up project with 26guage r panel. I paid 19600 that includes the anchor plates for concerted. The concrete cost me 9600. It was the middle bid and the local contractor was based down the road. 4 inch slab. 6 inche slap for lift. I expect the front door to run about 1500-2200 insulated with “flaps” figured that was standard but it’s extra. Rent a scissor lift is 400 for the week. Bought a miller 220v welder and plasma cutter with cart off Craig’s list for 800$
 

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Do you have a steel building or a pole building?
If steel, who did you buy it from?
Did you hire an erector, or DIY? How much did it cost to pay someone to put it up?
How much did the kit cost?

Just looking to gather information right now, I'm located in Northwest Missouri.

Thanks!
This stuff is highly regional:

I've done both red iron steel and pole building. I prefer red iron due to being able to span.
I bought from Mueller Steel (they have an online tool that's great)
Hired an erector, 1/3 steel kit, 1/3 foundation, 1/3 erection cost. About $23k each for a 40x60x16 4 years ago.

What would I do differently? I'll never install roll-up doors again.

I've helped put together red iron buildings, don't recommend if your time has value. Most erectors can have one done in 3-4 days.
 

My Old Tools

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Red iron structure for me allowed me to have the 1 ton overhead hoist on a traveler. 30x40x12 with a 6/12 pitch and 20x30 loft, clear span. It also has a 12x40 lean to on one side for outdoor stuff. Contracted with a local metal building shop for a turnkey build. 5 years ago, building about $40,000 with 7 windows, overhead door, walk door, i-beam for one ton hoist engineered in. Foundation was another $20,000 due to trees and slope.
 

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This is my first post, you guys have some beautiful buildings. I just got a quote for the slab for my 30X40 building. The building will be a machine shop so were going a bit thicker, etc than a typical shop but here in southern California it's a bit higher than everyone else's I have seen.

The slab is 30X40, 8in deep. 15X15 of that is 10in deep (for a large machine), 1X1 footing, 4000psi concrete w\fiberglass. I'm doing the grading. $24k
 

gekljklefgje

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This is my first post, you guys have some beautiful buildings. I just got a quote for the slab for my 30X40 building. The building will be a machine shop so were going a bit thicker, etc than a typical shop but here in southern California it's a bit higher than everyone else's I have seen.

The slab is 30X40, 8in deep. 15X15 of that is 10in deep (for a large machine), 1X1 footing, 4000psi concrete w\fiberglass. I'm doing the grading. $24k

mine red iron 30x40x14 with a carport cost $36k (including overheat door, excluding cost of door / windows that I provided) to put together by a local welder + $10k slab
 
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