30x40 shop

[morrillm06]

Hello every one, this is my first post and it will probably be lengthy but please bear with me
I will be putting up a 30x40 shop/garage next spring and i cannot decide what route i want to go i know this has been discussed before on here but i would like to explain my ideas.

i will have 30x30 open work area with the back 10 feet being a compressor room and bathroom 7 foot ceilings in these rooms so i can have storage above them 12-14 foot ceilings have not decided yet. i would like to finish the inside of the garage with insulation and osb shething painted white for durability. this will primarily be used to build and work on oval track race cars (my families hobby)

I have looked into
Rhino steel buildings
Pole buildings
Stick built
socket system (timber frame)

I see positives and negatives with all the options but i want a building that is going to last longer than im am (im 27) we do have fairly severe winters in my area and code is 90 pound per square foot snow load (which drives the price of every kit up.

also i would prefer to build on top of 2 foot concrete stem walls to help keep the building weather tight.

What would you guys do?
THank you for taking the time to read this and this sight seems like a great resource.

-Matt

 

[jaker10]

First thing I would do (if you have room) Go 30x48.

 

[Diesel Dan]

8" concrete stem walls with staggered 2x4 wall construction.
Super quiet and insulated. Going with a staggered 2x4 wall will also keep the interior wall flush with no ledge from the blocks.

 

[morrillm06]

I Have never heard of this method, would this be as structurally sound as plain 2x6 framing?

 

[morrillm06]

And I would love to go 30x48 but not sure if the budget, or the wife will allow , I mentioned 48 foot long once and she said that was "excessive" lol

 

[Ironhorse74]

I wanted two ten foot wide doors on the 40 foot side of my 30 X 40. In those two bays they spaced the trusses at 12 foot. When I enquired why I was told they needed 12 foot for a 10 foot door and that 12 foot was normal spacing for trusses. Long story short, that is how my 30 X 40 became a 30 X 48.

Brad

 

[morrillm06]

Brad,
what framing method did you use for yours, that is the hardest decision for me to make as I see positives and negatives with all options

 

[matt_i]

I feel like the all metal buildings are the best solution to cost and durability. There is nothing to rot, ever. However, they have an "agricultural look" to them, no offense to anyone who owns one.

If you go with pole or stick then you can do a different type of siding to make it look more like a building that goes with a residence. Not sure what type of area you are in. I think you can get more insulation thickness by choosing a 2x6 frame or working around the poles with insulation.

 

[autonaut]

Bricks..

Have a mason help you build an insulated brick shop inside and outside. It will last longer than you or your family.

In europe people live in brick houses that are hundred years old and more.

 

[rburke65]

Hello and welcome from Ohio! My wife said the same thing about my "totally unnecessary" shop. But her car was the first on the lift and she is always parking her SUV under the porch when she takes the convertible. I should have added 2 more bays.....still might. I'm not taking it with me......Good luck.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Hello and welcome aboard Matt, IMHO go for the 48 ft you wont regret it in the long run.

All the best.

 

[Thumper68]

Along with going 48' making it 32' the other dimension makes better use of materials.

 

[Ironhorse74]

Brad,
what framing method did you use for yours, that is the hardest decision for me to make as I see positives and negatives with all options

It is going to be a pole barn if the county ever gives me a permit. I crunched the numbers. nothing else comes close.

Brad

 

[morrillm06]

Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with metal buildings, specifically Rhino. Their quote was very reasonable (17k) for a 30x40 fully insulated with all doors and windows except the overhead (10x10)

 

[morrillm06]

No one has any input on metal buildings? specifically in a northern climate (NH)

 

[TK-65]

I went with a pole build strictly based on price. 30 X 40 because of size restriction. Single roof to match my house.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207837

 

[Diesel Dan]

For long term planning I'd much rather have a proper footer foundation, JMO.
Two courses of block above grade also helps keep pests out and protects the building incase something is pushed up against a wall.

My building was going to have a foundation but after months of contractors not calling me back I went with a pole building. It figures the day I poured all the post pads a block layer called me back.

 

[marksland]

I went back and forth between pole barn, metal building and stick built. In the end I decided on stick built with a full foundation, mostly because I could customize it to exactly what I wanted.

 

[morrillm06]

The agricultural look does not bother me as I live out in the woods at the end of a 1 mile dead end dirt road so there is not traffic or neighbors to see it. the other plus about a metal building I see is I can go with a shorter building and have the same the same height in places I need it as a taller stick built because of the open ceiling.