30x40x12 Great Value shop.

[rburke65]

Without a doubt...2”x6” studs and you will NEVER regret going with Trusses every 24”. Word to the wise here.....

 

[rebelranger]

So wet curing for a week ended today. So time to seal?
No saw cutting crack control done, concrete crew said not needed with the insulation.
Trusses are 4ft oc. But 2x6 studs

 

[Pressingonward]

Just a thought to save a couple pennies - if you can find a business giving away or selling old T8 or T12 light fixtures you can rip out the ballasts, direct wire the tombstones, and put in LED bulbs that are rated for direct wiring. I did this in all my T12 fixtures and they work great.

Not sure why everyone is so set on 24" OC trusses - mine are 12' OC...not to say that's a good thing, but I don't see 48" being an issue.

For the 2" rigid foam you plan to add in the future - is 2" sufficient to prevent the inner surface from dropping down to the dew point in your climate? Not sure how cold winters get in Missouri, or what your humidity level and temp will be inside the shop. If you need some additional info on checking this I can dig up an article for you that explains the concept and calculations.

 

[rebelranger]

I have done led conversions but honestly it's cheaper to buy led fixtures with bulbs off Amazon.

The 2in exterior rigid foam is in excess of the code for the area.

 

[stillnostrebor]

I'm just outside of Springfield, MO and have a 30'x40'x12' that went up 3 years ago. Your layout is very similar to mine, but I ended up going the pole barn direction at the end, simply because of issues getting a contractor committed. If you are going to work on cars, you'll really like loading on the 40' side. You are also right on track on costs compared to what I saw for stick frame. Missouri, especially south, is really reasonable for this type of construction.

I would not get too worried about the truss spacing, but it is harder to hang and insulate the ceiling on the 4' spacing. It can be done though, as I did mine myself. You just have to plan it out. Do it now if you think you want it and can swing the bucks, as it would be really tough if the shop is not completely empty.

I have a 2 post lift, and my clear height is actually 12' 1 1/2". The lift touches the ceiling slightly in one spot. It's TIGHT, and did limit my lift choices. There are some that will fit in under 12' though. DMS equipment in Nixa is a decent local supplier if you decide to chase a lift and want local support. Really good guys to work with.

If you get up Springfield way and want to see the doppelganger to your shop all done and in use, drop me a PM.

 

[rebelranger]

Building going up! Expect it to be finished tomorrow.

 

[PugetDude]

Looking good, rr.
Always amazed at how reasonable construction costs are in rural Missouri.

 

[rebelranger]

So almost done. The construction material was short a few pieces of metal, trim, and screws. Also the trusses were ordered the wrong length so I didn't get overhang like I ordered. Once that was discovered I took over the eves overhang. Builder took off 1000 for the issue, I'm seriously disappointed though.

 

[rebelranger]

@stillnostrebor thanks for the invite. I get to Greene County about once a month. I may take you up on the offer.

 

[nadogail]

May you enjoy your new garage.

 

[slim39]

I have a Rotary 9000 lift and it is 11 ft 9 inches and there's some more adjustment down. Check with Rotary. Good luck Slim

 

[rebelranger]

Some updates.
Garage doors installed.
Solar installed--way easier then I thought and cheap if DIY string inverter. I have under $3,000 in my solar, between use ebay panels and 7.7kw SMA Sunny Boy inverter. This system powers 100% of my house and shop 10 months a year so ROI is under 3 years!

I've installed LED lights and finishing electrical then spray foam, mini split, and drywall interior. It's coming along.

 

[rebelranger]

Solar photos aren't the best, I'll get some more updated Tomorrow

 

[tthornto]

I buy generic brand stuff all the time, and generally speaking the Great Value Brand generics seem to be just as good if not better than name brand stuff. But I don't think Walmart will be selling it own generic shops anytime soon, and if they do I don't think I'll be buying one from them.

 

[murd]

Hey can you give me some information on the eBay panels?

Thanks

 

[rebelranger]

Sure, here is a link to some: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Solar-Pane...mpid:PL_CLK|clp:2334524&LH_ItemCondition=3000.

I bought from this seller but a different smaller cheaper panel. Basically just look for used panels on ebay and purchase what your budget allows. I'm not a "green" person but I'm very fiscally responsible so solar with sub 36month ROI made sense to me, not to mention 26% tax credit, which keeps going down over the next few years before going away.

 

[skippydoo]

The cost of wood is thru the roof! My buddy told me 2x4x8 is over $8 in NJ now. The average home costs 14k more now due to lumber costs.

 

[rebelranger]

So making progress but winter weather and house projects are slowing me down.
Spray foam 2in closed cell, r11 batts, working 1/2 drywall. 12ft sheets drywall are a mine to self install without breaking! Ceiling will be corrugated white panels over 3/4 foam with blown r30 cellulose.
Next will be minisplit install. I bought a cheap 18k btu ebay unit which I've installed two in my business and they work fine in tandem with a split unit but under 30degree they have almost 0 heat. So I'll buy a tosot 18k unit and install it. Manual J says I only need 12k btu mini but I'll do 18k because the Tosot unit modulates from 4k to 21k heat and cool. Then floor....I'm thinking SPGX by armorpoxy.

Bathroom will get rough in and will be another post.

 

[Jaredmcginness]

Really nice space and a beautiful bit of land. If I had a bathroom in my garage, I don’t know that I would have a reason to ever leave it...

 

[purediesel]

Couldn't find your location but in our area here in Ohio, 2" CC spray foam will be the vapor barrier. If this is true to your location you ought to be using unfaced batt insulation not the faced that you are using. You could essentially trap moisture in your walls causing damage.

 

[rebelranger]

Thank you both. Yes the bathroom is going to require some engineering because only one drain pipe. So I'm going to do a rear discharge toliet and a vertical drain for the bathroom sink and shop sink.

For the insulation I actually ordered unfaced but the company sent faced. They refunded me 50% of the cost because it was a special order no return accepted. I called an energy consultant who said I shouldn't have any problems here in Missouri with this unless I get the drywall so wet it gets past the rock. I don't see that ever happening and the mini split with keep Temps decent.

Got the $30 green lazer from Amazon today. Doesn't work very well with natural light. The green laser is supposed to be seen better than the red.

 

[rebelranger]

Slowly making progress. Between work, school, honey due list, and family I just don't seem to have enough time.

Putting up 20.6ft metal panels alone isn't too bad, just lots of up and down the ladder.

The solar is doing great as well. I'll make sure I'll post some more of my diy solar install when weather gets better.

 

[rebelranger]

Once I finish the ceiling then I'm blowing in R30 cellouse and installing an 18k GE Caliber mini split [full heat to 5 degree F without pan heater]. Mud, tape, kick plates, concrete finish, paint, then finally use it for fun.

 

[rebelranger]

Wow I'm seriously behind on updates.

Here is an older photo...20ft panels 12.6ft in the air with sketchy Amazon drywall lift all alone!

Check out my flooring thread I just started: L3000 and AX25 - new concrete

 

[rebelranger]

Quick photo update. Floor denisifer [L3000] and [Eagle solid color sealer] more to follow. Sorry I'm way behind on photos.

 

[rebelranger]

Still trying to catch up. This was after 2nd coat of Eagle Solid Color Sealer. I'll get more photos soon.

 

[rebelranger]

Slowly getting photos to highlight work done.
Installed 18k btu senville extreme weather mini split. Hung, mud, tape drywall. Framed and build bathroom (the glass door was one I had left over from another job). Used pvc for kickplates at bottom of drywall. Painted [excuse painters tape]. Mostly finished electrical...ran out of outlets and covers. Started wall bench and 4x8 rolling bench.

It's punchlist time... no new projects until all finishing touches done.
1. Finish electrical.
2. Pull painters tape...maybe add vinyl piping.
3. Finish work benches [4x8 roller and support for wall bench] stain/paint.
4. Trim around doors and metal to drywall.
5. Touch up paint.

Next steps...device air exchange [HRV], air filter system, drill pill, welder setup, 2 post lift.

 

[rebelranger]

Getting closer to actually doing work in the shop and not working on the shop.

 

[Pressingonward]

Good idea to knock out the punchlist before starting on other projects...I should try that sometime lol

 

[rebelranger]

What are yall doing for air exchange? HRV and ERV systems are more than I want to spend and when it's cold I really don't want to open the garage doors. I have considered two fans one out one in. Thoughts?

Floor buffer/cleaner - anyone using the cheaper version of the floor buffers? They have two small disc's vs a large single one.