40 x 50 Garage build
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I love it. 
Modifieddriver
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Good news, the building inspector approved my building permit and inspected my post holes today. Tomorrow I can start installing posts and pay for the rest of the building.
The guy left the wrappers from the sticker right on the ground when he was done sticking it to the stick I had there. I guess he figured it was easier than throwing it away himself.
I told my builder I didn't want to see any trash and especially any cigarette filter tips on the ground. Told his crew and they complied. Buying their lunch at a restaurant a couple of times helped keeping the job site clean.
The building inspector...........what the hell do ya' expect, you work for him....right????? Sounds like he needs an *** kickin'.............after you get the final sign off. Like I always say, "Don't piss off the waitress/waiter until AFTER you get your food". Same applies here.
Now, what about those braces at the 7' height?
gordyy
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now just go out and drill a couple more post holes further back they will never know
So for the bad news.
Apparrently I was ill informed as to the location of the septic field.
I confirmed that I took out two of the septic drain lines. One was clogged, full of roots and not working at all and the other was flowing like it wasnt leaching at all. Both looked infultrated with dirt around the pipes.
I'm not moving the garage, so it looks like I'm putting in a new septic field.
The septic guy I know is coming over to quote it on Monday, hopefully it will be cheap, he mentioned I could provide my labor and save some money so that may be the way to go.
Otherwise it looks like I get to rent an escavator and learn how to do it myself!
Seems like a new problem at every turn, hopefully things start to go more smoothly.
Apparrently I was ill informed as to the location of the septic field.
I confirmed that I took out two of the septic drain lines. One was clogged, full of roots and not working at all and the other was flowing like it wasnt leaching at all. Both looked infultrated with dirt around the pipes.
I'm not moving the garage, so it looks like I'm putting in a new septic field.
The septic guy I know is coming over to quote it on Monday, hopefully it will be cheap, he mentioned I could provide my labor and save some money so that may be the way to go.
Otherwise it looks like I get to rent an escavator and learn how to do it myself!
Seems like a new problem at every turn, hopefully things start to go more smoothly.
Make sure you actually need a new field, maybe you can just add more runs on the other end. Those trees you had there should have been removed years ago. I have a bunch of trees I should be removing too but I know I'm not going to do it until I have a problem. A problem that isn't going to smell too good either. I have my own backhoe though so it will be fixed at night. While you are doing the new field make sure you don't make a mistake and accidently run a line to your new shop, otherwise a bathroom might show up there sometime.
That's what I thought. I was told it was somewhere else and there were 25 mature trees that I had to remove in that area. I figured I was clear.
Even if you think there is no way, it doesn't hurt to check. I wish I did, though I probably would have done the same thing I am now.
Now that you hit the leachfield (sorry to hear that) make sure there's no heavy equipment hanging out over the tank itself.
I took some vacation time to work on the garage this week on my own.
This is how I was transporting the posts over to the hole, I wouldn't recommend it as I dropped one on my leg, which felt just like I would have expected it to.
But by yesterday morning, with help from a friend to push up the really long ones by hand and another friend helping set them level later.
By the way, I wouldn't recommend pushing the poles up and into the holes by hand unless they were less than 20 ft. This was terrible on my back and super dangerous with the real long ones.
This is how I was transporting the posts over to the hole, I wouldn't recommend it as I dropped one on my leg, which felt just like I would have expected it to.
But by yesterday morning, with help from a friend to push up the really long ones by hand and another friend helping set them level later.
By the way, I wouldn't recommend pushing the poles up and into the holes by hand unless they were less than 20 ft. This was terrible on my back and super dangerous with the real long ones.
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Also, the new septic field went in yesterday.
First strike against my lawn.
The end product, they actually did a pretty good job of grading everything and filled in some low spots with the extra dirt.
The best part is that they helped me drop in the really long posts too. This is the way I would recommend doing it!
Yesterday was also my birthday, and not only did I get a new septic field but my wife made me a custom cake.
First strike against my lawn.
The end product, they actually did a pretty good job of grading everything and filled in some low spots with the extra dirt.
The best part is that they helped me drop in the really long posts too. This is the way I would recommend doing it!
Yesterday was also my birthday, and not only did I get a new septic field but my wife made me a custom cake.
sporty_drew
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Looking great, Happy Birthday!
***** to hear about the council, I'm trying to decide the best way to go to ours about a pole shed I want to build. I will be watching this as i've never built a shed before and plan on doing it myself with some help. Can you post as much information as you go about everything?
***** to hear about the council, I'm trying to decide the best way to go to ours about a pole shed I want to build. I will be watching this as i've never built a shed before and plan on doing it myself with some help. Can you post as much information as you go about everything?
Poles in, leach field fixed and a Bday cake, awesome and happy Birthday.
Modifieddriver
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Happy Birthday. You need something happy after dealing with that bunch of morons.
Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes.
This is the first major thing I have ever built, I have done some minor framing in the past and helped my dad build a small shed when I was a kid, but nothing of this magnitude.
I'll post as much as I can and I will try to point out the mistakes I made so that others may avoid them. If you have any specific questions let me know.
One of my tips would be spend the money and rent the right equipment and buy the right tools. The nail gun I bought is great, it allows me to get the posts level and shoot a nail in without any chance of throwing level off. Currently I am cheaping out on buying a 12 ft A frame ladder and using a POS 5ft ladder that I found in my basement when I bought my house. Stupid... especially since I will need a big A frame to install/change lights when this is all done.
One thing I messed up on was the hole drilling, I drilled to deep and drilled 75% of the holes a few inches off.
This happened because when I marked the location for the holes I set them at 40 ft apart. So the center of one hole on one wall was 40 ft away from the center of the the respective hole on the opposing wall. This was a problem because it did not account for the thickness of the girts and the fact that the posts would sit within the 39'9"x39'9" outline (not centered on the outline). Needless to say I had to open my holes up another 6 inches towards the inside of the building on many of the holes. Unfortunately the Bobcat was long gone and I had to do it all with my post hole digger.
Another tip which I think you can see in the picture where the backhoe is pushing the post in, is throw a 2x4 or wider in the hole as a guide for the posts to ride on as they go down the hole or else the post will dig into the side of the hole and get stuck until it is straight up.
I will post more tips and point out dumb stuff that made more work for me as the project progresses.
This is the first major thing I have ever built, I have done some minor framing in the past and helped my dad build a small shed when I was a kid, but nothing of this magnitude.
I'll post as much as I can and I will try to point out the mistakes I made so that others may avoid them. If you have any specific questions let me know.
One of my tips would be spend the money and rent the right equipment and buy the right tools. The nail gun I bought is great, it allows me to get the posts level and shoot a nail in without any chance of throwing level off. Currently I am cheaping out on buying a 12 ft A frame ladder and using a POS 5ft ladder that I found in my basement when I bought my house. Stupid... especially since I will need a big A frame to install/change lights when this is all done.
One thing I messed up on was the hole drilling, I drilled to deep and drilled 75% of the holes a few inches off.
This happened because when I marked the location for the holes I set them at 40 ft apart. So the center of one hole on one wall was 40 ft away from the center of the the respective hole on the opposing wall. This was a problem because it did not account for the thickness of the girts and the fact that the posts would sit within the 39'9"x39'9" outline (not centered on the outline). Needless to say I had to open my holes up another 6 inches towards the inside of the building on many of the holes. Unfortunately the Bobcat was long gone and I had to do it all with my post hole digger.
Another tip which I think you can see in the picture where the backhoe is pushing the post in, is throw a 2x4 or wider in the hole as a guide for the posts to ride on as they go down the hole or else the post will dig into the side of the hole and get stuck until it is straight up.
I will post more tips and point out dumb stuff that made more work for me as the project progresses.
Darkboones
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Thanks for posting advice and mistakes. You are just ahead of me by about a week or so. Sands going in tomorow and I will be digging holes Monday. I will make sure to use your idea about another piece of wood as a guide. And if I wouldn't have read your post I would have probably wouldn't have accounted for the girtters too. Thanks a lot
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!I have got a lot done since my last post, all the wall framing is done, the windows are framed in and most of the truss carriers are in. I was short two 16ft 2x12s.
I will post pictures tomorrow once I finish the truss carriers.
On a side note, remember that back hoe that the septic company used to help me place my posts. The owner came by to collect the rest of the payment on Saturday and his back hoe was still stashed at my house. He told me he would have someone come by to pick it up on Monday so I confidently asked him if he would mind if I used it for the weekend around the house. I'm not sure if he realized that I have never even operated a regular tractor much less a legitimate piece of heavy equipment but before you know it he was showing me the controls and gave me the go ahead to use it.
I ended up using it for a few hours to clear out a rocky area of my lawn and to pull a little tree out. I'll see if I can snap some pictures of the damage tomorrow.
All in all I give the back hoe 2 thumbs up!
I will post pictures tomorrow once I finish the truss carriers.
On a side note, remember that back hoe that the septic company used to help me place my posts. The owner came by to collect the rest of the payment on Saturday and his back hoe was still stashed at my house. He told me he would have someone come by to pick it up on Monday so I confidently asked him if he would mind if I used it for the weekend around the house. I'm not sure if he realized that I have never even operated a regular tractor much less a legitimate piece of heavy equipment but before you know it he was showing me the controls and gave me the go ahead to use it.
I ended up using it for a few hours to clear out a rocky area of my lawn and to pull a little tree out. I'll see if I can snap some pictures of the damage tomorrow.
All in all I give the back hoe 2 thumbs up!
xtremek
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Where in "Hooterville" do you live? Both my wife and I grew up there and our parents still live there. I cost my parent $10k in lawyer fees to add a 30x40pole barn onto an existing outbuilding even though all the neighbors signed off on the proposal.
xtremek
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Actually, I work in Warren as an antenna lead.
I used to live on Sashabaw between Oakhill and Seymour Lk on the west side of the road and then at the corner of Sherwood and Sashabaw. Clark Cook graduated a year before the wife and I. Our parents live on or near Groveland Rd.
And, as you can probably guess NuttsGT, I'm not a great typist. It should have read, "It cost my....."
xtremek
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Very small world. I've driven that commute and 75 is tough. Mine is fairly long, usually 2hrs. one way. I have a friend I went to school with for a short time that works on Global Epsilon suspension, Dan, or is it Dave, Lenda. Sorry to jack your thread, it's just that "Hooterville" is such a small town.
NP Dan Lenda is a good guy for sure.
Tomorrow the trusses go in! The crane guy came by to check everything out today. So far I'm happy I decided to hire a crane, after I price it out I was surprised that it is going to be much cheaper than renting a telehandler. I put the truss blocks in today and but a bunch of 25.5" pieces of 2x4 for bottom chord stringers.
I'll get some pictures of the trusses being installed tomorrow.
Is that a typo meant to be 22.5"?
All the trusses are in! It took a little under 4 hours and the crane operator only charged me for 3, super nice guy. Among the best money I have spent. I'm so happy I didn't mess with a telehandler. This guy was a pro and he even instructed us on how to install the bracing.
Nope, the trusses are 24 on center then add an inch and a half so that the 2X4s are flush with the outsides of the trusses and you have enough to nail to the trusses. I'll post a picture tomorrow so you can see what I mean.
I think you were thinking about a spacer/cheater block between the trusses. I made a couple of those too for the spots where I couldn't put truss blocks due the posts being in the way.
My wife took a lot of pictures, I will post some up soon.
Nope, the trusses are 24 on center then add an inch and a half so that the 2X4s are flush with the outsides of the trusses and you have enough to nail to the trusses. I'll post a picture tomorrow so you can see what I mean.
I think you were thinking about a spacer/cheater block between the trusses. I made a couple of those too for the spots where I couldn't put truss blocks due the posts being in the way.
My wife took a lot of pictures, I will post some up soon.
AHotRod
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Your gonna love a shop that big 
On a side note, maybe there is something wrong with my sense of humor but these things always make me laugh.
This came with my framing nailer.
Nope, nothing wrong with your sense of humor.
You have some nice beautiful weather right now for working outside.
Here is a picture of the truss blocks I set up before we installed the trusses. These act as nailers for the ends of the trusses as well as get you lined up to put your trusses in quickly. There were a few places where the post got in the way of installing these. For those I toe nailed the truss and installed hurricane straps.
