Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

If i can get big machines where they are planned to go, that will be my big win in this deal. I am seeing a lot of projects that would free up a lot of space if i can stay focused on one at a time and grind through it. The bolts all over the floor for instance. I have space for those, just needs to get finished. I am hoping the black totes can help with the organization of that.

I also need to find a home for the hose crimper. Maybe over by the tire equipment? I have about a 6 x 9 ft place to put all that stuff.

 

[bimmer1980]

Candidly, if you paid to sandblast, I would set the rims up on the pallet racking. I see some other rims (maybe aluminum?) that you could group them with.....

Even with a plastic bag around them, I think they will rust outside....

Regardless, making progress. As Kent said, I see a lot of what we call " kibbles and bits" or "smalls"... items that are hard to find a spot for, but take up space and mental machinations to deal with.....

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes, there is a lot of that. I want to just put it into totes and get it outside but i wonder how well that will work long term.

I don't really have any good spot to put the rims. Maybe in the machinery shed would be best.

 

[bimmer1980]

I think what ever you can do to get it out of your primary work area. Having the primary work area functional is going to be key to making forward progress on current projects and future projects.

Personally, I'm a big fan of having things on wheels.... makes shuffling things around a bit easier... but again, don't use that as an absolute and create more projects. Sometimes, just having it on a harbor freight style dolly is sufficient.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm a big fan of wheels also. A little less so now that i have the forklift though. Once it gets to 500lbs, the casters have to be pretty hard tire to not flatspot

 

[86turbodsl]

Made a little more progress at lunch today...

 

[68400BIRD]

One bite at a time. Clean floor space is always a step in the right direction.

 

[86turbodsl]

Saw this today on the interwebs. Some dude had some fun making a CNC controller.

 

[bimmer1980]

Maybe the CNC controller dude can go spend a week with Strouty.... I heard he has a big red machine that needs a control system...

Good job on the cleaning.... Making some progress.

 

[Strouty]

If I made that, there would have to be a coin slot. As for help, I am probably beyond that.

Looks like good progress, anytime I see floor, I am happy.

 

[86turbodsl]

I was just reviewing the Fairlane Facebook group. And I realized I have owned the Fairlane for 38 years. I think I need to get that on the road.

 

[86turbodsl]

We got a spot cleaned last night and kids truck in the shop. We start on the new exhaust today. Also got my moates quarter horse so we can tune it when we are done.

 

[bulletpruf]

I was just reviewing the Fairlane Facebook group. And I realized I have owned the Fairlane for 38 years. I think I need to get that on the road.

Ditto. I've owned this one for about 20 years. Has fresh paint, all new interior, fresh 428, rebuilt wide ratio toploader, etc. 90% done. But the Alfa and the GTO convertible are ahead of it in the queue.

 

[86turbodsl]

Unbelievably, we have pretty much knocked out the kid's exhaust up to the mufflers. I'm working on the front hanger now. we already put the mufflers on and gave them a listen. Much nicer than the glasspacks but still rumbly. We had 91db outside the truck in the shop with a mild rev. I'm pretty happy with how it's come out. I also put a spare bung in the driver side for the wideband. The quarterhorse has shown up. I still need to pull the ecu and see what box and strategy he's running so i can get the right def file.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ditto. I've owned this one for about 20 years. Has fresh paint, all new interior, fresh 428, rebuilt wide ratio toploader, etc. 90% done. But the Alfa and the GTO convertible are ahead of it in the queue.

LOVE that car. wish my 'vert was done. I'm going to need better gears than a toploader though. Everywhere around here is too far away and on the freeway. I'd get killed doing 60 on I94.

 

[Strouty]

So is the controller already on the truck or is this for something else?

 

[86turbodsl]

I switched directions a little bit on the ECU. Originally i found a guy who designed a drop in speeduino board for an EEC4. He sent me the board and nothing else, so i need to build that, test and debug. I don't have that much time right now, so i bought a moates quarterhorse. That plugs into the J3 port on the back of the stock ecu and allows live tuning. So going that way, i don't need to build and debug a circuit board and start a calibration from scratch. I can tweak his ecu and probably get close to done quickly. Once we have a cal we like, i can burn onto a more permanent chip. The quarterhorse also allows live tuning on my powerstroke as well so i can hop that thing up a little once it's running right. so it seemed like a good way to go right now.

 

[Strouty]

That sounds like a neat unit.

 

[86turbodsl]

Yeah too bad moates closed shop in december. I figured i'd better grab one before stock was all gone. Right now there is no replacement for this tool.

 

[Strouty]

Sadly, I think that is going to be the trend for a lot of tools like that. That is one reason I invested in a true GM Tech 2, I have all the tools and software to be able to write certain things to the ECM. Nothing like what you can do, but at least I can program a VIN and swap an ECM, otherwise they don't interchange.

 

[86turbodsl]

Yeah, the current environment for this sort of thing is pretty negative. They said it was parts availability due to the pandemic but the undertone was also some frustration with the winds of change. I feel vaguely like i'm playing musical chairs and the music just stopped so everybody is scrambling. I just refuse to be funneled into the trap they are busy setting so i suspect i will never buy a new vehicle again as long as i live.

 

[bulletpruf]

LOVE that car. wish my 'vert was done. I'm going to need better gears than a toploader though. Everywhere around here is too far away and on the freeway. I'd get killed doing 60 on I94.

Well, I've got 3.25 gears in the rear, so it should be decent on the freeway. Wide ratio will help on the launch, too, along with 500 ft/lbs, of course.

 

[86turbodsl]

Mine's got 3.50 gears, with the 1:1 4th, i can't get over 60-65 mph at 2500rpm. That engine is LOUD and HOT at 2500 for an hour to get somewhere. 80mph is something like 4000 rpm. Nope.

 

[bulletpruf]

Mine's got 3.50 gears, with the 1:1 4th, i can't get over 60-65 mph at 2500rpm. That engine is LOUD and HOT at 2500 for an hour to get somewhere. 80mph is something like 4000 rpm. Nope.

A taller tire out back would help a bit, but sounds like you need Tremec TKX.

 

[Strouty]

The entire automotive marketplace OEM and aftermarket is nuts anyways. The other day a Cadillac Escalade popped up in my Market Place feed (similar search for suburbans), it was one year old with 10k miles, asking price was inline with KBB values, $112k. That was when I realized things are way wrong. I am not even going to ask how people can spend that much on a truck, but why? Not like it was something really fancy, this is just a rebranded suburban, I am sure those aren't cheap either. At what point did a standard truck become as expensive as a starter home?

 

[jbmatth]

The entire automotive marketplace OEM and aftermarket is nuts anyways. The other day a Cadillac Escalade popped up in my Market Place feed (similar search for suburbans), it was one year old with 10k miles, asking price was inline with KBB values, $112k. That was when I realized things are way wrong. I am not even going to ask how people can spend that much on a truck, but why? Not like it was something really fancy, this is just a rebranded suburban, I am sure those aren't cheap either. At what point did a standard truck become as expensive as a starter home?

Because a starter home is now way more expensive, sometimes double what they were even 5 years ago. I feel like I make great money but some of the new car prices out there have me floored. I'm afraid there is going to be a big correction hit sometime and we desperately need one sadly.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

We are moving towards the new model of consumerism. You don't own. You rent. Mainly i think because you won't be able to afford it.

Remember: "You will own nothing and you will be happy." https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset

Have fun, and i wont be here.

 

[Strouty]

Vehicles don’t fluctuate in price by location as much as houses do. You can still buy fixer uppers in lots of places for less money than a new truck.

I figure it won’t be long before they offer 15 year mortgages for a vehicle.

 

[86turbodsl]

That long of a note for a depreciating asset like a vehicle is beyond stupid.

 

[bulletpruf]

The entire automotive marketplace OEM and aftermarket is nuts anyways. The other day a Cadillac Escalade popped up in my Market Place feed (similar search for suburbans), it was one year old with 10k miles, asking price was inline with KBB values, $112k. That was when I realized things are way wrong. I am not even going to ask how people can spend that much on a truck, but why? Not like it was something really fancy, this is just a rebranded suburban, I am sure those aren't cheap either. At what point did a standard truck become as expensive as a starter home?

I bought a new 2020 Yukon Denali in early 2020. I don't need the bells and whistles of the Denali, but I had to have the 6.2L engine and the 10 speed auto, and those only came in the Denali. I think it was about $85k. That's close to what I paid for my first house outside of Fort Benning, GA, but it was about 25 years ago.

 

[Bob Heine]

I bought a new 2020 Yukon Denali in early 2020. I don't need the bells and whistles of the Denali, but I had to have the 6.2L engine and the 10 speed auto, and those only came in the Denali. I think it was about $85k. That's close to what I paid for my first house outside of Fort Benning, GA, but it was about 25 years ago.

Scott, you really know how to hurt a guy. We paid $14,500 for our first house and $3,200 for a brand new '68 GTO. Oh, never mind, that was 57 and 55 years ago.

 

[86turbodsl]

We paid 15K for our first car, a 96 Ford Contour, and about 20K for our next car, a 2005 Golf TDI. I haven't sprung for a new car since. I doubt i ever will. Prices have reached insanity levels.

 

[Strouty]

My first new vehicle was (you probably guessed it) a 1999 diesel suburban, it was $46k in late 99. I think the equivalent gas version was closer to $40k, but the GMC SLT Burb would be the 1999 equivalent of a loaded 2020 Denali, so more than double in 20 years. I guess so, still crazy to me, at least my truck was a business expense.

 

[86turbodsl]

My first new vehicle was (you probably guessed it) a 1999 diesel suburban, it was $46k in late 99. I think the equivalent gas version was closer to $40k, but the GMC SLT Burb would be the 1999 equivalent of a loaded 2020 Denali, so more than double in 20 years. I guess so, still crazy to me, at least my truck was a business expense.

i think that's how most expensive vehicles must be purchased these days. I mean WHO can afford a 100K car? That's a terrible investment!

 

[86turbodsl]

I bought a new 2020 Yukon Denali in early 2020. I don't need the bells and whistles of the Denali, but I had to have the 6.2L engine and the 10 speed auto, and those only came in the Denali. I think it was about $85k. That's close to what I paid for my first house outside of Fort Benning, GA, but it was about 25 years ago.

Our first house was $62.5K. in 1996. It was about half the cost of the average back then.

 

[Bob Heine]

I just realized my situation today is flipped. Telling my grandfather about the new car I ordered and how much it cost in 1967 would have reminded him about his first new car and its price in 1912 (55 years earlier).

 

[racer-john]

My first house was a detatched 2 story, no garage, sandwiched between semi's $40,000 (1947). Wish I still had it.

 

[jbmatth]

i think that's how most expensive vehicles must be purchased these days. I mean WHO can afford a 100K car? That's a terrible investment!

For a new vehicle I completely agree for the vast majority, there are a few that take less of a hit. But used cars/trucks that are specialty or collector grade do at least hold their value and occasionally go up in value, they rarely keep up with inflation much less the returns if invested.

JB

 

[bulletpruf]

My first new vehicle was (you probably guessed it) a 1999 diesel suburban, it was $46k in late 99. I think the equivalent gas version was closer to $40k, but the GMC SLT Burb would be the 1999 equivalent of a loaded 2020 Denali, so more than double in 20 years. I guess so, still crazy to me, at least my truck was a business expense.

I'll be selling my Yukon to my business in the next few months...

 

[68400BIRD]

I have never purchased a new car/truck and don't think I ever will. I just can't except the loss of value just driving it a few hundred feet off the dealers car lot.