Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

Whew!!! that is impressively crusty!

How are you sourcing the bearings?

Good to see progress on it!

Rockauto.com had them for half anywhere else.

 

[bulletpruf]

Sorry to see the bearing mess!

Almost sent you a message a few days ago. There was an Oliver crawler here that was listed for $1,000. Solid, ran when parked. It sold within a few days.

 

[86turbodsl]

Wow. I'd be living out of a suitcase if i brought one home right now though.

 

[86turbodsl]

By popular demand, here's the hacked together toe jack. It really could stand a redesign.
I made it on very short notice to move the lathe.

 

[bimmer1980]

Looks good enough! If anything, weld a plate on the bottom of the jack so you get the base further out and under the "toe".

Otherwise, if it works, keep using it....

 

[bulletpruf]

Wow. I'd be living out of a suitcase if i brought one home right now though.

There are two old D7's listed near me. Both ran when parked, both $5k or less. Would be a fun "first start after x years" video, but I have absolutely no use for a dozer...

 

[86turbodsl]

My favorite youtube channel is dieselcreek. i watch all these vids and want one, but other than building a driveway to my shop, i have no use for one. I need to do that this fall, i'll probably just get the 2 bottom plow out and knock the sod off, then drag it off with the box blade. I could hire someone, but what's the fun in that??

As far as a D7, do you know how big that thing is??? I had a D5M for the driveway we have now. The thing was GIGANTIC. It was a fun weeks rental though.

 

[86turbodsl]

I got the forklift wheels cleaned up last night and the tires are in. I drop off the wheels 730am friday and they'll be done shortly later. Can't wait to have it running again. 3 day weekend so assuming no other issues should be good for some serious work.

 

[bulletpruf]

My favorite youtube channel is dieselcreek. i watch all these vids and want one, but other than building a driveway to my shop, i have no use for one. I need to do that this fall, i'll probably just get the 2 bottom plow out and knock the sod off, then drag it off with the box blade. I could hire someone, but what's the fun in that??

As far as a D7, do you know how big that thing is??? I had a D5M for the driveway we have now. The thing was GIGANTIC. It was a fun weeks rental though.

Yeah, I'm hooked on Dieselcreek too.

We used D7's in the Army, so I'm familiar with how large they are. Maybe I need to buy one and then buy a piece of property that's suitable for someone who owns a D7 and a few dozen chainsaws?

 

[jbmatth]

Well since ya'll are talking dozers and the like, I really want one too, I have a few projects that would really benefit from one plus they are just fun. A coworker had a D7 for a bit to do some work at his property, did a couple repairs in that time then turned around and sold it for a small profit. Don't think of it as a project think of it as an opportunity to make a few extra bucks.

JB

 

[86turbodsl]

Well other than the fact I have no way to move anything like that and no buddies with low boys.

 

[kent_323is]

Since we're on the subject of crawlers/dozers, here's mine:

This is much smaller than something like the D7... mine weighs in around 3500 lbs. In this series, they also have dozer versions.

I have used this crawler tractor on my acreage to pull a rotary mower for cutting the pasture. Not so much in the last few years as my neighbor now cuts it and bales it for his cows. Saves me a ton of time and the grass goes to good use.

 

[86turbodsl]

Since we're on the subject of crawlers/dozers, here's mine:

This is much smaller than something like the D7... mine weighs in around 3500 lbs. In this series, they also have dozer versions.

I have used this crawler tractor on my acreage to pull a rotary mower for cutting the pasture. Not so much in the last few years as my neighbor now cuts it and bales it for his cows. Saves me a ton of time and the grass goes to good use.

You know i'm into Olivers right? Here's today's hat....

I never experienced it personally, but my Uncle told me that my Grandpa had a HG for a while. He apparently didn't care too much for it, said he would hear the tracks in his sleep. I like yours though! I would probably sleep in the doghouse if i ever run across a diesel OC-6. It would be coming home with me.

 

[kent_323is]

Mine is the HG68, meaning it has the wide stance. They also have narrower versions too, like the HG42. The OC-6 is the next newer generation from the HG's.
It is a pleasure to drive this machine... it turns very smoothly due to the Oliver/Cletrac clutching/braking.

 

[rattle_snake]

..... Maybe I need to buy one and then buy a piece of property that's suitable for someone who owns a D7 and a few dozen chainsaws?

Yes that sounds like a solid plan and a good time.

 

[86turbodsl]

Mine is the HG68, meaning it has the wide stance. They also have narrower versions too, like the HG42. The OC-6 is the next newer generation from the HG's.
It is a pleasure to drive this machine... it turns very smoothly due to the Oliver/Cletrac clutching/braking.

Yes that matches my understanding also. I do not know what gauge he had. I think the only reason he bought it was to get into the fields earlier than others. i don't believe he had it long. They went all wheeled Olivers after that.

Cletrac was ahead of the curve on a lot of technology, much like Oliver. It's a shame what White motors did to them.
Do you subscribe to either of the magazines? I'm still a little stunned that there are 2! magazines for this brand.

 

[kent_323is]

I don't subscribe to either of the magazines, I had no idea there were magazines dedicated to that! I haven't dug much into Oliver other than the crawler tractors.

 

[86turbodsl]

I don't subscribe to either of the magazines, I had no idea there were magazines dedicated to that! I haven't dug much into Oliver other than the crawler tractors.

Couple of samples for you. My uncle and i traded subscriptions for each other. We chat about articles sometimes.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ok, so i took the Namco wheels in this morning to get tires pressed on. Left with the guys, went for some breakfast and when i got back, they informed me that they couldn't use the normal process because the brake "drum" was butted up to the wheel ring. So it's not a press thru operation like they all are. They could cut off the rubber and ring and then press, but we'd be talking about 5-6 hrs work. Not having that, i took them back home, used an angle grinder and sawzall and cut a chunk of rubber out of the tire, then angle grinder to cut through the band. Once we got to the root, it snapped off and they fell off easily.

Cost 2 hrs and a shirt sacrifice. Burning rubber is a nasty smell when you can't walk away from it...

Now this afternoon i will bring them back in for press and we'll be all set. I do think the steer tire will need some attention at some point. the tires had lost over 2" diameter.

 

[86turbodsl]

And success!

 

[Strouty]

Interesting, haven’t seen tires like that before. At least you had the ability to deal with it, would have been a lot more expensive adding all those billable hours onto the job. Hopefully you can get some use out of it before you have to swap the crank out.

 

[86turbodsl]

The shop that pressed the tires said the company making the tires has cheaped out over the years, they are tapered narrower towards the outer diameter. They used to be square. Mitco out of chattanooga. At least they are USA?

I got it done in 2 hrs. The hard part was dealing with the slinging molten rubber. That was hot. My shirt didn't survive. Oh well it already had a stain on it that wouldn't come out.

 

[86turbodsl]

Went to the shop today and knocked the bearing races out of the namco wheels, went to put the new ones in, and they dropped into the registers. Loosely. Apparently a Timken 387A is not a 387. WHO DOES THAT?? 3.812 OD vs 3.875 OD. Shouldn't the number be something completely different???? So i check online and can only get one 387 race from amazon until Sept 11, so did a return to rock auto for the bearings that won't fit and am now walking around the forklift in the middle of the shop trying to do other things until my new 387 bearings show up for 2X the price. Just ducky...

 

[macgyver37]

Can you turn a reducer bushing to use the bearings you have on hand at least to move the lift out of the way?

 

[86turbodsl]

No. No lathe onsite and i want to send bearings back since they were a hundred.

 

[86turbodsl]

And to top it off, i just got stung by a wasp for venturing into my machinery shed. Getting late in the year and they are getting aggressive.

 

[bimmer1980]

You have probably checked, but I've gotten a few bearings from ebay. Another surprising source I've used is fastenal.

Probably a few other sources with some digging...

How much was each bearing on amazon?

 

[zanyad]

We buy from Accurate Bearing at work: https://www.accuratebearing.com/

 

[86turbodsl]

You have probably checked, but I've gotten a few bearings from ebay. Another surprising source I've used is fastenal.

Probably a few other sources with some digging...

How much was each bearing on amazon?

It was more of an availability issue with Amazon. Sept 11 earliest delivery. Normal bearing suppliers aren't open on Saturday. Rock auto already shipped em.

 

[86turbodsl]

You have probably checked, but I've gotten a few bearings from ebay. Another surprising source I've used is fastenal.

Probably a few other sources with some digging...

How much was each bearing on amazon?

Don't remember pricing. 382 387 if you want to check. Had to buy em separately

Edit: 382 races were 15.82 each at amazon. And they said next day delivery, but when you put 4 in your cart, the timing drops to Sept 11-17. No can do. This weekend was supposed to be the moving around weekend. Looks like that got pushed to next weekend.

 

[Strouty]

That stinks, hope the new ones get to you quickly.

 

[Monza Harry]

86' multi-source? Use that place for 1 and check "P&A for 2 or three, two gets one side done while waiting? Again try Rocky for 1 or 2 bearings, if the smaller qty. gets there sooner, (a day or two apart) you might actually pull a 2nd place finish, it's still on the podium. A win is nice but a 2nd place finish is better than a lost weekend or a "DNF"! Don't forget to try Fork truck and big truck suppliers/dealers for possible parts available. Even if this requires an hour drive after work. Harry

 

[SilverJimmy]

If you go to any Peterbilt, Freightliner, or International dealership/shop or even any independent truck shop they have dozens of those drums in their scrap bins. FMCSA laws require every truck on the road to be safe and brakes are the biggie! They don’t even turn the drums any more, new shoes, new drums. Most cost effective and also no liability for shop doing the repair. You go and offer them cash=scrap $$$ and they’ll probably even load them in your truck! More projects! Ya!

 

[86turbodsl]

Good to know. when i have a need i will check it out there! We have an IH dealer not too far from here.

 

[Strouty]

When I need some, I just change my brakes...

 

[86turbodsl]

When I need some, I just change my brakes...

Well you do play with significantly larger trucks than i do lol...

 

[Strouty]

It is only fun for a little while, then reality sets in and your wallet starts to hurt.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'm already hurting enough.

In other news, the boiler is drained, pipes are cut. The gun is officially on my head.

 

[86turbodsl]

Clearing the path to the boiler.



The boiler disconnected.





I got all the water out I could. It still wasn't enough.

 

[Strouty]

I saw a micro fiche machine!