Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop

[86turbodsl]

So did some research. Seems mud daubers like to crawl into motors. This motor is in the machine shed outside. The cap tester i ordered should be in tonight. I'm thinking centrifugal switch is a strong maybe.

 

[86turbodsl]

I got the cap tester and both caps tested ok. I'll be tearing into the motor.

In other news, i finished the mezzanine over in the corner tonight. So i'll be working to get bikes and some other stuff off the floor now.

 

[Spareparts]

that is good Progress, makes you sleep better at night

 

[86turbodsl]

Hah, i wish. I don't sleep well at all anymore. I think it's just age. Im officially a senior now lol.

didn't get anything upstairs last night, there was a mysterious change to the weather forecast, from 16% chance of rain to 50% chance, so i put everything back in the shop, including the forklift, which leaves me no room at all. Shut everything up and came indoors, laid on the couch and suddenly the forecast was back to 16%. I gave up.

 

[86turbodsl]

Went out to the shop during lunch, cleared all the space in front of the mezzanine, we're ready to start lifting things up there. There's a LOT of space up there. About 8' x 20'. I think room for a lot of stuff that won't be needed over the winter.

 

[86turbodsl]

And we got all the motorcycles up in the mezz after dinner. That cleared a lot of floorium and there's room for a lot more stuff up there also. The main question is how to get this stuff all back down with the 2nd 4 post in the way. I think i'm going to need to clear off the end framework to allow it. I'll throw up some pics later. Ran out of time.

 

[bowtiguy]

Can you use the 4 post as your lift? I used mine to stack Lista cabinets, Delta sander and my A/C air dryer on top of my larger listas.

 

[86turbodsl]

Unknown. But questionable. The ram for the lift will be in the way.

 

[Spareparts]

Gotta make sure to have room for a Fairlane on there.

 

[86turbodsl]

Haha. Probably not at my age I'll be doing good just to fix what I have now.

 

[86turbodsl]

Thank God for forklifts. Put all sorts of things in the loft today.

 

[86turbodsl]

Almost have room to start organizing projects

 

[bulletpruf]

Thank God for forklifts. Put all sorts of things in the loft today.

I see Fairlanes!!!

 

[86turbodsl]

Yup. But focused on getting **** cleaned up right now.

 

[86turbodsl]

Picked up some more conduit and boxes, we're going to get some cords off the floor while i have space open.

In other news, the compressor motor is toast. I sanded the points on the centrifugal switch, and tested both caps. Seems like the start winding might be toast. In any event, i did all i could. So now i'm on the hunt for a large single phase motor. Alternative is a vfd drive and one of my existing 3ph motors. Neither will be cheap.

 

[86turbodsl]

Ended up finding a WEG motor that's a fit, right about $400 shipped. We'll see if it's a winner or not.
Anything Baldor, leeson, etc was at least double. I have a Weg RPC motor, it's very nice.

 

[83VillageRepair]

Ended up finding a WEG motor that's a fit, right about $400 shipped. We'll see if it's a winner or not.
Anything Baldor, leeson, etc was at least double. I have a Weg RPC motor, it's very nice.

They are much better than the chinese motors but no where near the quality of a Baldor. But for your use case that is what I would pick.

 

[rattle_snake]

You can measure impendence of the start and run windings to verify the motor is damaged. Also check for a short from all windings to the case (gnd).

 

[86turbodsl]

You can measure impendence of the start and run windings to verify the motor is damaged. Also check for a short from all windings to the case (gnd).

I could, but there's no point. new motor on the way, old motor blows breakers on attempts. If i have any hope of having heat this winter, this thing needs to be up and flawless.

 

[rattle_snake]

Maybe I missed it, do you use the air compressor for the furnace system? Air injection?

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes, the air provides the atomization

 

[86turbodsl]

Still working on cleaning up the shop. Had to put everything back in last night due to predicted rain, and also pulled a new fiber link to the house. Wire i ordered is all arrived, we have everything we need to wire up the last of the fixed items. I still have controls work to do to automate the RPC. And finally, the new air compressor motor showed up today. So i'll try to get that going again tonight.

 

[86turbodsl]

Made no progress last night. Had to take fam out to dinner and after that there wasn't much time left before bed. Maybe tonight. Or this weekend. Sadly at work today. Rest of Nov i will be taking Fridays off.

 

[bimmer1980]

Any updates on the air compressor motor replacement?

 

[86turbodsl]

Yes sorry I replaced with the weg on Saturday. It works again.

 

[86turbodsl]

On vacation tomorrow, have a set of tires to mount for the new car, and hopefully a scrap run. Then more shop organizing. Running out of good weather, although i can't believe how nice it is this deep into November. I got the tractor back out, mowed some fields down, so that's done for the winter. I am definitely going to have to look into rebuilding the engine on that thing though. It's got issues that seem to be getting worse.

 

[bulletpruf]

Meanwhile, back in Texas...

Running out of brutally hot weather; i can't believe how freaking awful it is this deep into November.

 

[86turbodsl]

I'll take hot over cold any day of the week and 2x on sunday. In the south, you just sweat. Not trying to be a d*ck. Just genuinely curious. Only downside i can think of down there would be the extra critters you put up with. At least most of those die off every year here.

Edit: After a minute i think this is sounding harsh. I truly do not mean it that way. I am actually jealous of everyone that can move somewhere they want to. I am stuck in the miserable north for probably the rest of my life. 6 months of the year i absolutely hate it here.

 

[doctordirt]

Me too, stuck in Michigan near Lansing.

 

[shakenfake]

Meanwhile, back in Texas...

It hasn't been that bad, I'd say a touch warm.


Cold ***** just working outside. That is about it. You can work inside in the cold no problem, electric heaters work pretty damn good. Once you start actually working and warm up you can shed some layers. When it is hot you are just screwed. Oh boy I can get a fan that is just cooling the sweat pouring off my face right into my glasses.

I've done both, never anything below 0. One job I had was working in a warehouse, every day I wished it was 20 outside instead of the 105. That building was an oven.

 

[86turbodsl]

There's plenty of times i have a broken pc of equipment that's outside and can't be easily brought in. We haven't even talked about the feet of snow that i need to move to even begin to try to move said broken equipment into a place that even CAN be heated. Don't assume everything can be put indoors and you can pull clothing off. Lots of times i've been stuck crawling around on a vehicle / under a vehicle in the snow, or worse, slush, with hands so cold i can't feel the bolt or nut i'm holding to start the threads. And you can't put gloves or mittens on because then you can't actually HOLD the fastener to start the threads.

 

[86turbodsl]

Me too, stuck in Michigan near Lansing.

My condolences.

 

[shakenfake]

Yeah that is why I started with "Cold ***** outdoors. That is it." I didn't say you had the luxury of working indoors on everything.
Heat ***** everywhere. Literally everywhere. There is no escape.

I know what you mean about the fasteners, it ***** when trying to wear gloves because it just doesn't work. The snow ***** too but that isn't directly related to being cold. That goes under "wet" which I think I hate more than heat. I loathe being wet. Which brings me back to heat, my *** gets so damn sweaty that it feels like I just pulled my jeans out of the wash. Then it drips into your boots and socks and your feet get so damn sweaty and wet. It's a never ending cycle of hell.

 

[83VillageRepair]

I don't miss the cold. Many years in SoDak in a non heated shop. We are just getting to the nice weather here, cool and the bugs are finally gone.

 

[86turbodsl]

I've done both, never anything below 0. One job I had was working in a warehouse, every day I wished it was 20 outside instead of the 105. That building was an oven.

I remember once years ago, I had to install some wiring for a Sat dish outside in January. It was -25f that day. With a howling wind. And I had no choice. Just a sample of why I want to move south.

 

[bulletpruf]

I'll take hot over cold any day of the week and 2x on sunday. In the south, you just sweat. Not trying to be a d*ck. Just genuinely curious. Only downside i can think of down there would be the extra critters you put up with. At least most of those die off every year here.

Edit: After a minute i think this is sounding harsh. I truly do not mean it that way. I am actually jealous of everyone that can move somewhere they want to. I am stuck in the miserable north for probably the rest of my life. 6 months of the year i absolutely hate it here.

I wouldn't want to live there, either. Too damn cold for me. I think the ideal climate is something like the Carolinas or similar - 4 seasons, but none of them particularly rough.

 

[bulletpruf]

It hasn't been that bad, I'd say a touch warm.


Cold ***** just working outside. That is about it. You can work inside in the cold no problem, electric heaters work pretty damn good. Once you start actually working and warm up you can shed some layers. When it is hot you are just screwed. Oh boy I can get a fan that is just cooling the sweat pouring off my face right into my glasses.

I've done both, never anything below 0. One job I had was working in a warehouse, every day I wished it was 20 outside instead of the 105. That building was an oven.

You're right. It hasn't been that bad this year. We had a nice spring and a reasonable summer. However, summer has hung around way too long. Should be cooler here now. Just weird that gun season is open for deer and I'm wearing short sleeves in the blind.

 

[bulletpruf]

There's plenty of times i have a broken pc of equipment that's outside and can't be easily brought in. We haven't even talked about the feet of snow that i need to move to even begin to try to move said broken equipment into a place that even CAN be heated. Don't assume everything can be put indoors and you can pull clothing off. Lots of times i've been stuck crawling around on a vehicle / under a vehicle in the snow, or worse, slush, with hands so cold i can't feel the bolt or nut i'm holding to start the threads. And you can't put gloves or mittens on because then you can't actually HOLD the fastener to start the threads.

Reminds me of the time I had to stab a transfer case back into my 1999 Yukon in the parking lot of my apartment complex in Seoul, South Korea. Freezing rain coming down and it wasn't always easy to keep my entire body underneath the truck.

 

[86turbodsl]

You had a Yukon in Seoul? Wow.

 

[bulletpruf]

You had a Yukon in Seoul? Wow.

Yep. Wasn't nearly as bad as driving my wife's mid-sized SUV in Naples, Italy. Seoul is an enormous city (25 million in the metro area) but the streets and highways are wide enough and folks drive reasonably well.

Anyway, the Yukon was just a beater that I picked up on base for $1,200 or so. It was roached when I got it, but pretty nice when I let it go 2 years later.