83VillageRepair
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I have a rough country forklift. I am looking for one the walk behind electric for inside, like the handi stakker brand
Above 1200 Sq/FT 86's 20HP shop
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
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86turbodsl
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I like the little electric ones, but they almost always have outriggers in front, and I definitely don't want that. I don't have clear floor space on all pallet rack.
Strouty
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I have some real electric ones, they run on big 24 volt batteries, much nicer for an inside forklift, no real fumes (except maybe charging), and no real noise either. The batteries are really expensive dive, so I try and find them with good batteries.
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86turbodsl
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yeah i definitely don't want an electric. I'm a gearhead not a sparky. In spite of my whole industry moving that way. 
The electric batteries will eventually always need replacing and that's not a diy item.
The electric batteries will eventually always need replacing and that's not a diy item.
83VillageRepair
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There are completely hydraulic ones much like a pallet jack that might fit your needs. I have never used one but I have seen them come up cheap in industrial surplus.yeah i definitely don't want an electric. I'm a gearhead not a sparky. In spite of my whole industry moving that way.
The electric batteries will eventually always need replacing and that's not a diy item.
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86turbodsl
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The pallet jack type have outriggers instead of a counterweight. the outriggers go out in front and i really need the front to be unobstructed. So normal type forklift is about the only thing that works. Or maybe a Namco, but those are $$$$
83VillageRepair
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I got you now. You don't have room in front or sides. A small warehouse propane unit should be right up your alley. My job 520 is really low and I can extend 16 feet so it does most of what I need but I wouldnt turn down a hard surface forklift. If the price was ridiculously low...
I really like your dad's car by the way. I'm a sucker for 50s ford's. I can't believe it took 2 years to sell.
macgyver37
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I didn't realize you were getting that tall of one. I was able to have my 5k hyster picked up and delivered with a rollback, roundtrip was 220 miles and he charged me $500. I couldn't beat that with any other method of borrowing or renting at the time.
My little one, which would be the one I keep if I Had to be down to 1 is a 2k capacity Datsun, it is small enough to just barely fit through a 36" man door, 36" forks. It is my favorite. It moved all of my machines except the 24k cnc. I moved my 12k lathe with it once in the shop. Had to get creative on a couple, but it did it without being unsafe.
I used to have a warehouse lift with the outriggers and forks that extend into a pallet rack and then retract, it was handy and you could use it mostly like a regular lift, but it couldn't go outside at all and it was electric..
Most recent I got is a 12k cap Hyster from '65. Dual front wheels, it is a bit of a project, but it did load a 9k lathe I sold a couple weeks ago so I am happy about that. It is a bit too big to stay inside the shop though, so once it is reliable, I'll probably park it at my buddies house a mile from the shop. I got the seller to deliver it as it weighs 17k. Not sure what I'll do if I ever need to move it.
If you do try to get a small inside lift, I'd say don't get one so old it doesn't have power steering, I used one a couple times and it was horrible, almost unusable.
My little one, which would be the one I keep if I Had to be down to 1 is a 2k capacity Datsun, it is small enough to just barely fit through a 36" man door, 36" forks. It is my favorite. It moved all of my machines except the 24k cnc. I moved my 12k lathe with it once in the shop. Had to get creative on a couple, but it did it without being unsafe.
I used to have a warehouse lift with the outriggers and forks that extend into a pallet rack and then retract, it was handy and you could use it mostly like a regular lift, but it couldn't go outside at all and it was electric..
Most recent I got is a 12k cap Hyster from '65. Dual front wheels, it is a bit of a project, but it did load a 9k lathe I sold a couple weeks ago so I am happy about that. It is a bit too big to stay inside the shop though, so once it is reliable, I'll probably park it at my buddies house a mile from the shop. I got the seller to deliver it as it weighs 17k. Not sure what I'll do if I ever need to move it.
If you do try to get a small inside lift, I'd say don't get one so old it doesn't have power steering, I used one a couple times and it was horrible, almost unusable.
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86turbodsl
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wow. 500 sounds like a deal. I'd probably never find a deal that good. I found a trailer to rent for under a 100. It's low enough to drive it up on. I think the mast is about 10' high. Add a high deck and you're looking at close to 14' high on the freeway. I don't want to be on a youtube video...
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86turbodsl
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Well i ran out of time building the topside creeper, jobs are piling up and i needed the truck done.
I cleared some more space in the shop, pulled the truck in up to the lift, set the lift arms out in front of the truck and raised the lift so i could stand on the arms. Worked great and kept me off the stepstool. Got the injectors put back in last night and started this morning. Seems to run pretty good. Still working some bugs out and have one missing bolt to replace. I hate that. Doesn't happen every time, but occasionally i'll be missing a bolt when finishing a job.
I'll spend some of today debugging the truck and then hopefully tomorrow to to the scrap yard and empty the bed. Then i can get some other jobs done that are quite pressing. Not sure i can pickup the forklift before my daughter's grad party on the 7th, but i'll make the college try. I'd take a photo of the truck, but it would literally be the back end of the truck poking out of a smoke cloud.
I cleared some more space in the shop, pulled the truck in up to the lift, set the lift arms out in front of the truck and raised the lift so i could stand on the arms. Worked great and kept me off the stepstool. Got the injectors put back in last night and started this morning. Seems to run pretty good. Still working some bugs out and have one missing bolt to replace. I hate that. Doesn't happen every time, but occasionally i'll be missing a bolt when finishing a job.
I'll spend some of today debugging the truck and then hopefully tomorrow to to the scrap yard and empty the bed. Then i can get some other jobs done that are quite pressing. Not sure i can pickup the forklift before my daughter's grad party on the 7th, but i'll make the college try. I'd take a photo of the truck, but it would literally be the back end of the truck poking out of a smoke cloud.
Strouty
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I am not sure what is worse, missing a bolt, or having extras???
Sounds like you have been busy and still getting things done, keep plugging away, winter is coming.................
Sounds like you have been busy and still getting things done, keep plugging away, winter is coming.................
bimmer1980
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"Lift arms as a platform"
Good deal. Some times the best solution is the simple and easy to execute method.
While I don't doubt the top side creeper would be handy, getting the truck running is even better.
Good to hear it is running!!
Good deal. Some times the best solution is the simple and easy to execute method.
While I don't doubt the top side creeper would be handy, getting the truck running is even better.
Good to hear it is running!!
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86turbodsl
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A POX on you!!!!
Don't say such things.... it's like saying the devil's name, he'll show up... In all seriousness, i'm not sure what's better either. I'd have liked if all the bolts were accounted for, but that ship sailed so..
I got rid if the scrap metal in the bed. $116 worth. Not bad. Still got a fleet of scrap to get rid of yet.
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86turbodsl
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Thank you, It's a relief for sure. I'm ready for jobs to get done. Have 3 barrels of oil to go get now.
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86turbodsl
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Whew, glad that's done. We just concluded my daughter's grad party yesterday. Now i am on to cleanup duties, and after that back onto the shop and vehicle repairs. It won't be long and the weather will be heading south, so time is a ticking.
Strouty
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Now look who's talking about bad weather!
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86turbodsl
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Yeah but i didn't mention that nasty S-word! Lol.
Strouty
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Slush?
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86turbodsl
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HAHAHA! sure, we'll go with that one. ;P
bimmer1980
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Just curious, What do you think it will take to get the oil burner boiler going for the radiant heat?
Do you have access to natural gas?
Just something to ponder, if you have natural gas access you might be time, money and hassle factor ahead by getting a natural gas (or even propane) boiler. Just think about the idea of not having to dink around with all the things you have in the past to try to get heat. Even a small boiler "tee'd" in to the system to get you going and then as time permits, run your waste oil burner for "savings".....
Candidly, I have a natural gas boiler (with domestic hot water) for my garage. Most months in the summer it is about $16 and in winter it will range from $80 up to $110 per month. 1600 sq ft.
If your plan is to run some type of business from your shop, you need to be positioned to make money, not worry about trying to make heat....... Think about what you need to make per hour to keep the wheel turning.... the prototyping on the boiler gets "expensive" fast when it is preventing earning potential.
Just thinking out loud...
Do you have access to natural gas?
Just something to ponder, if you have natural gas access you might be time, money and hassle factor ahead by getting a natural gas (or even propane) boiler. Just think about the idea of not having to dink around with all the things you have in the past to try to get heat. Even a small boiler "tee'd" in to the system to get you going and then as time permits, run your waste oil burner for "savings".....
Candidly, I have a natural gas boiler (with domestic hot water) for my garage. Most months in the summer it is about $16 and in winter it will range from $80 up to $110 per month. 1600 sq ft.
If your plan is to run some type of business from your shop, you need to be positioned to make money, not worry about trying to make heat....... Think about what you need to make per hour to keep the wheel turning.... the prototyping on the boiler gets "expensive" fast when it is preventing earning potential.
Just thinking out loud...
1Garageman
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Anything going on in the garage? Haven't seen a post from you in a while.
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86turbodsl
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Sorry guys, i've been quite literally SWAMPED with stuff going on. I'm getting close to taking the daughter to her boyfriends place in Wisconsin, and i had a ton of stuff scheduled in August, so the quick rundown is here:
Aug 7 - daughters grad party. swamped around that date.
Aug 12 - Go pickup Forklift in Port Huron.
Aug 13 - Go to cleveland to pickup HGR purchase.
Aug 21 - Go to Oakley HPOCA show with my uncle.
Also working on fixing my daughter's Audi steering rack, my son's water pump, my car's brakes, my wifes' car front end, and getting the Forklift operating 100%.
I just put a new ignition system on the Forklift, sorting out the fuel issues, it sprung a flat tire 5 minutes off the trailer, and doesn't lift the full 12ft i need for my operation, so looking for a different mast. Runs around good though. Looking forward to cleaning the place up a lot.
The pallet rack wire decks i got from HGR will work nicely with a little trimming, and gets me out of making a ton of wood decking for $$$ on the racks. The forklift will load the racks up and clean my floor up.
Bimmer: I do not have access to NG. It's about 2 miles away. No amount of prodding of local suppliers would get anyone to come ask the neighborhood. I tried. Propane is $$$ and i already buy 1300 gallons a year for the house. Wood is in short supply around here. We have a neighbor with a 500,000 BTU wood furnace and he literally cleans the whole neighborhood for miles to get enough to feed that beasty. And nobody wants oil around here. they all give it to me for free.
Saturday is my birthday and for the first weekend in probably a month i don't have anything scheduled, but its going to be 90F here, so probably just putter cleaning the shop and maybe drink a lot of cold ones.
I'll try and take some photos of the progress around here and post them up. Just so swamped lately...
Aug 7 - daughters grad party. swamped around that date.
Aug 12 - Go pickup Forklift in Port Huron.
Aug 13 - Go to cleveland to pickup HGR purchase.
Aug 21 - Go to Oakley HPOCA show with my uncle.
Also working on fixing my daughter's Audi steering rack, my son's water pump, my car's brakes, my wifes' car front end, and getting the Forklift operating 100%.
I just put a new ignition system on the Forklift, sorting out the fuel issues, it sprung a flat tire 5 minutes off the trailer, and doesn't lift the full 12ft i need for my operation, so looking for a different mast. Runs around good though. Looking forward to cleaning the place up a lot.
The pallet rack wire decks i got from HGR will work nicely with a little trimming, and gets me out of making a ton of wood decking for $$$ on the racks. The forklift will load the racks up and clean my floor up.
Bimmer: I do not have access to NG. It's about 2 miles away. No amount of prodding of local suppliers would get anyone to come ask the neighborhood. I tried. Propane is $$$ and i already buy 1300 gallons a year for the house. Wood is in short supply around here. We have a neighbor with a 500,000 BTU wood furnace and he literally cleans the whole neighborhood for miles to get enough to feed that beasty. And nobody wants oil around here. they all give it to me for free.
Saturday is my birthday and for the first weekend in probably a month i don't have anything scheduled, but its going to be 90F here, so probably just putter cleaning the shop and maybe drink a lot of cold ones.
I'll try and take some photos of the progress around here and post them up. Just so swamped lately...
racer-john
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Happy Birthday.
bimmer1980
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Happy birthday! Sounds busy, but also some good forward progress! Forklift will be handy!
jbmatth
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So you are going to tell us about the forklift and not even show us a photo? What a tease. Have a good birthday and take a breather if needed.
JB
JB
macgyver37
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I have a Cat/Mits 5k with a 3 stage mast for 14ft lift ht that I am parting out if you are interested.
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86turbodsl
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Thanks for all the bday wishes guys. I will post a pic of the forklift shortly.
macgyver, i found a guy locally with a 187" full free lift 3 stage mast. It's got bad seals on the lift cylinder though. 1000 and 12 miles away. I figure i can sell the engine for 4-500, scrap the rest, make about 5-600 in scrap, keep the mast and just do seals for next to no money and just some time. In the meantime i can use the lift as is. The full free lift will be really nice for indoor lifts though.
macgyver, i found a guy locally with a 187" full free lift 3 stage mast. It's got bad seals on the lift cylinder though. 1000 and 12 miles away. I figure i can sell the engine for 4-500, scrap the rest, make about 5-600 in scrap, keep the mast and just do seals for next to no money and just some time. In the meantime i can use the lift as is. The full free lift will be really nice for indoor lifts though.
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Strouty
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Yes it will, all mine are a ratio of free or no free at all. For a grand you should be fine, most lifts are worth a couple grand if they run right now and scrap is up too. Happy Birthday early, hope it isn’t too hot, our forecast is “might not reach the 70s” and I am a bit excited about that.
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86turbodsl
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Forecast says 90F. I am betting 92-93F for end of day. Whew. Might be a slow moving day.
I just checked out the forklift near here. It's an inch narrower than my mast and looks like an easy swap. I'm betting about 1hr for design on adapters, get a local laser place to cut them out, will use my existing sideshift, and just replace my main cylinder.
I might be able to adapt my fork carriage, not sure. The one on the other mast has different forks, and they are only 36". And it's narrower. Chrome looks good on the cylinder. Engine is a runner. Trans works too. Brakes are bad like they always are.
I don't know how i can lose since it's a very common mast cylinder and parts are cheap. What say ye all?
I just checked out the forklift near here. It's an inch narrower than my mast and looks like an easy swap. I'm betting about 1hr for design on adapters, get a local laser place to cut them out, will use my existing sideshift, and just replace my main cylinder.
I might be able to adapt my fork carriage, not sure. The one on the other mast has different forks, and they are only 36". And it's narrower. Chrome looks good on the cylinder. Engine is a runner. Trans works too. Brakes are bad like they always are.
I don't know how i can lose since it's a very common mast cylinder and parts are cheap. What say ye all?
Strouty
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I say go for it, but I am a bad role model.
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86turbodsl
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Lol! We do think alike a lot of the time though....I say go for it, but I am a bad role model.
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86turbodsl
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Just for kicks, i plotted course at almost 800 miles away...
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86turbodsl
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The guy is going to find me 48" forks instead of the 36" ones on it, and i think we have a deal. Should be near zero cost after scrapping the rest. Is there a market for transmissions?
Strouty
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If you list it for sale and wait long enough, but who knows, you will have lots of pallet rack to store it on…..
Spareparts
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Glad to see you back on the net,every time I don't see a post from you I think something has happened, I worrie a lot, love your posts, don't post a lot but scroll down every day or so just to see what you are up to. Happy Birthday.
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86turbodsl
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Thanks spareparts. Im glad i make people happy sometimes.
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86turbodsl
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that's what i'm afraid of. I am sitting on numerous items that are priced very fairly i think, and we just happen to be sitting in a cheapskate black hole....
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86turbodsl
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We just moved my daughter's car into the shop on the lift. 96 Audi A4. Steering rack. I've read comments - "A car designed by the devil himself." speaking of the rack job. Yikes. What am i in for. My Bday job. I must really love my family....
macgyver37
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I think if the local one is very close to a bolt on, then I'd go for it. Pallet racks are not very useful if you have to load by hand. And old lifts with out the free lift is annoying and a bit dangerous if you aren't used to it as it is easy to forget about. Two of mine are and the big one is not and it gets way up there without the free lift. Doubt I am going to find a different mast for a 12k capacity for anything I can afford.
I can't quite tell what you have, is it a Ford?
I can't quite tell what you have, is it a Ford?