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The brake line job is truly horrible. i'm HOPING i don't have to go all the way back to the coupler in front of the axle. That thing winds all over the place.
 
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Good God. i finished the brake line, put the motive pressure bleeder on the cap, pumped up, went back to the brake caliper, then heard a blammo, checked around the car, found the top of the master cylinder reservoir blown off. Ordered a new one, next Wed arrival. I friggin can't win....

Now i have to drive my crew dually to work for 2 days while everybody else shares cars.
 

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Good God. i finished the brake line, put the motive pressure bleeder on the cap, pumped up, went back to the brake caliper, then heard a blammo, checked around the car, found the top of the master cylinder reservoir blown off. Ordered a new one, next Wed arrival. I friggin can't win....

Now i have to drive my crew dually to work for 2 days while everybody else shares cars.
What's diesel costing in Michigan? I just filled my 94 IDI Turbo up yesterday for $3.94. I am trying to drive more often this year so it is ready when I need it.
 
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Most places are around $4.50(EDIT: $4.75). There's a little relief if i head further west, down to about $4.29.
it gets 14mpg. My normal ride is up in the mid-upper 20s. Round trip to work is 125 miles.
 
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Today's disaster hit at 330am, when our dining room table collapsed, making a huge racket and another project for me.
I guess we had too much piled on top of it. The screws holding the expander mechanism pulled out. It's a removable leaf thing.
Literally everywhere i look there's something to clean or repair.
 

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Uff.... Mother-humper that *****!!!

I guess I won't even ask what was on the table that generated enough weight to break it....

I will admit that we've had times where stuff gets piled on the dinner room table, but lately it's been kept quite clean so that the wifes winter themed dishes and centerpiece are visible.

I will hold in my thoughts on resolutions... I won't pour salt on a wound.

Hopefully 2023 starts off better than 2022 is ending for you. Happy new year to you all!!
 
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It was full extension with both leaves in it, along with a lot of excess kitchen stuff. Not super heavy stuff, but i guess enough over time that it creeped the fasteners out. It will take some work to fix.
 
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I'm sort of in the same position as Scott. I like the impacts, and trying to fill the drawer with those for now.
Regular sockets, i have a mishmash of SK, Craftsman and HF. This weekend is a 25% coupon weekend, so
i'm doing lower priced sockets but in higher quality where possible.
 
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Arrrg!

I didn't look at the work schedule close enough since it was a crazy last week before Christmas, i actually took vacation, worked half of it WFH/online and didn't realize today was a holiday. Sooo, i burned half a tank of diesel driving to the office to see an empty parking lot. I remember about 10-12 years ago, Christmas and New Years fell on a weekend, and we had to be back to work on Monday, so we lost a day of vacay. I remember counting. Somebody must have b*tched, because we had today off.

Oh well. Sometimes i'm dumb. I did stop at Menards on the way through town at least.
 
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Ok, some updates. I brought the tractor over to the shop, filled with 2 GALLONS ! of water, let it sit and run for 20 mins idling. I felt the top radiator tank, it's hot. Bottom radiator tank is cold. Did NOT boil over nor did i see any bubbles in top tank. Engine ran fine. All i can figure is the thermostat stuck closed on the really cold day? Any other thoughts? Seems like a hot rad tank means it's flowing now. Dunno.

Shop cleaning progresses. Overwhelmed.

Forklift: I can't for the life of me, get the box asssembled to where it is free moving WITH the steering shaft in place. If i take the steering shaft (normal wheel input) out, i can move the arms freely. I am rather inclined to go the full 9 yards and install hydraulic cylinders on each steering tie rod and leave the shaft out, the gears installed would synchronize the box. It would simplify my life i think, for a modest cost increase and some time invested. Cylinders are about 100 each, hoses i'm guessing is around 100ish. fittings wouldn't be too much i think if i stick with npt. The steering valve only has a single line for each direction. I would cross connect and tee into the valve. It's pretty easy plumbing. Only somewhat difficult task would be mounting each end of the cylinder. I'm sure i can come up with something. Thoughts ?
 

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Forklifts are the same as automobiles to me , they need worked on to be of use to you, or to make your life easier ( you can walk but riding in a car is easier). As far as what to change out as far as parts is really up to how often you want to work on it.

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I am a machinist/ hobby wood worker...I don’t generally work on cars but will when I have to and fix or replace parts because I don’t want to do it again.
 
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In the end, i think moving to 2 cylinders makes life easier. If i keep as is, i'm looking at machining or something to fix the box. Or get a different one. They're all rare now. Last one i bought was near 500.
 

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This is the rough terrain forklift, right? If so, I would invest effort in a steering upgrade, it will be a useful piece of equipment for a long time.
 
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What kind of machining does the box need?
Not sure. It binds with the new sector gears and the old recirculating ball gear. Take out the shaft and recirc ball gear and it's fine. Super smooth. I ordered new sector gears because one of the old ones was bad. I heard there was a change in the gears at some point. Maybe the shaft/ball deal is the old style and won't mesh. If i had to guess on machining, cut the rack teeth deeper.
 
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This is the rough terrain forklift, right? If so, I would invest effort in a steering upgrade, it will be a useful piece of equipment for a long time.
That's where i'm at right now. it'll fix the issue with steering for good. If the forces are evenly distributed on each side, and not trying to push hydraulic force thru the steering box and sector gears from one side, i think it is basically fixed. That was the final design of the power steering on this tractor, sometime in the late 60's. First design was a torque amplifier through the manual box. You can guess how that went. Later they went to cylinders on each side with a steering valve sitting on top of the old box. Sectors were just for synchronization.
 

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Is there a way to smear some blue dykem or similar on the gears, rack, etc, then assemble, do movement and then inspect for close tolerance?

Even some clay or wax may work to check clearances. Similar to the clearance measurement for rod and crank journals.

Candidly, if I was doing this, I would use some hot wax from the wife's scentsy burner to coat some of the critical parts. This would be soft enough to show the clearances.....

If you proceed down the hydraulic route, how much do you have to buy versus the items you already have? cylinders, brackets, fittings, etc?

If that would be a long term fix, get 'r done!!
 
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I will have to buy cylinders, hoses and fittings, make brackets to fit the ends.
I'm not too worried about that part. Even if i find where the issue is, i'm not positive
i can machine what needs changing to fit. The fact the sectors mesh without the shaft
sort of indicates to me the issue is really in the shaft/sector gear interface, and
i can't do any real gear machining, nor do i have a supplier for that.
I could buy a different box, throw this one in the pile and still end up with a problem down the road
since shoving hydraulic force through the sector gears appears to be a problem long term. The
welded arm has been replaced at least once. Frankly, i think the repair took all the temper out of the
steel and that's why it failed, but i have no way to validate that.
 
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