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Sounds like a similar situation I had a few years ago...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

5 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: here, pay this... (Hands me a $250 bill from an electrician...). (Did I mention that I am an electrician? :dunno: )

Coop: (bites tounge and pays $250 to replace a $15 outlet...)
 

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Coop: I'm still smiling. My wife did the same thing with trim painting and i own more paint stuff than most painters and had paint sitting there for a few months. Thats why we married the gals we did because they like getting things done. :thumbup:

1/2: feeling your pain and trying to think of a solution. Good luck.
 

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1/2: since it looks like your (Mrs. 1/2's) new fridge fits under the cabinet ok and just doesn't let the door swing open maybe this will work.

can you remove the doors and maybe plane off 5/16 ths or maybe 7/16 ths and then repaint the bottom piece? or put a piece of stainless on it if you have some sort of coating on the doors?

i own several types of planes that would work great for that job, but a machine planer would be a lot better than a hand planer if you have or know anybody that owns one.

it might not look right to you but i bet Mrs. 1/2 would be ok and friends and relatives wouldn't ever notice unless you told them. especially if you painted the front edge of the cabinet the same color as the cabinet.
 
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What flooring do you have in the kitchen ?

GB we have slate on concrete and that certainly would be an option to lift the slate as that would provide the clearance we need. I do have to recoat the slate at some point which means moving the fridge any way.:thumbup:

1/2: since it looks like your (Mrs. 1/2's) new fridge fits under the cabinet ok and just doesn't let the door swing open maybe this will work.

can you remove the doors and maybe plane off 5/16 ths or maybe 7/16 ths and then repaint the bottom piece? or put a piece of stainless on it if you have some sort of coating on the doors?

i own several types of planes that would work great for that job, but a machine planer would be a lot better than a hand planer if you have or know anybody that owns one.

it might not look right to you but i bet Mrs. 1/2 would be ok and friends and relatives wouldn't ever notice unless you told them. especially if you painted the front edge of the cabinet the same color as the cabinet.

Drives That is totally achievable as well.:thumbup: I have a nephew who is a cabinet maker by trade and has some real nice gear that would do the job well.:thumbup:

It is a task that does require proper equipment and even though I could do it with the table saw I have it would end up like something that a rat had chewed off.:shocking:

Have a great day and thank you for dropping by.:thumbup:
 

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We had a very simmilar problem at work with rangehood cabinets at work. All 158 appartments had to have this done.

Basically they used a multi tool to zap through the screws holding the base into the carcass. Then the doors were removed and the top of the door was trimmed down, or new doors were made. The doors were then mounted up higher. They used these joinery clips that screw down one way and have nails that come out perpendicular so that you can reinstall the base from inside rather than screwing into it.

I dont know what they would be rated to weight wise, you could probably put a lot in if you keep heavier stuff in there. Your nephew would know the clips, if you wanted to tackle it yourself, I can post some to you (ive never seen them at bunnings before)
 
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Sounds like a similar situation I had a few years ago...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

5 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: here, pay this... (Hands me a $250 bill from an electrician...). (Did I mention that I am an electrician? :dunno: )

Coop: (bites tounge and pays $250 to replace a $15 outlet...)

I am still laughing Coop:lol:

Your wife sounds she is very much like mine however she knows that when it comes to electrics around here it is a "no go" although she did threatened me with getting an electrician to change a faulty light tube once.;)

Mrs 1/2 Cup got a bee in her bonnet some time back about repainting the family room and kitchen and as every good electrician does I have wall to wall power point and switches. I said to her when you are ready I will lift them off the wall so you can paint ( I hate outlets that are painted over and stuck to the plaster with paint)

I came home from work one day and shock, horror:shocking: she had lifted every switch and outlet, covered each with a plastic sandwich bags to protect them as she painted. The twist to all this was they were all alive.:shocking:

Her only comment was in a very nonchalant tone "I have seen you do that often enough":dunno:
I walked away shaking my head and she went on painting.

Have a good one Coop, I am still smiling over that one.;)
 
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We had a very simmilar problem at work with rangehood cabinets at work. All 158 appartments had to have this done.

Basically they used a multi tool to zap through the screws holding the base into the carcass. Then the doors were removed and the top of the door was trimmed down, or new doors were made. The doors were then mounted up higher. They used these joinery clips that screw down one way and have nails that come out perpendicular so that you can reinstall the base from inside rather than screwing into it.

I dont know what they would be rated to weight wise, you could probably put a lot in if you keep heavier stuff in there. Your nephew would know the clips, if you wanted to tackle it yourself, I can post some to you (ive never seen them at bunnings before)

158 to modify and I thought I have a problem with just 1.:thumbup:

I know the clips you are referring to Kenfab
Weight wise it shouldn't be an issue.

It will be a 5 minute job to remove the doors and my nephew should be able to prune them down in no time, I still have some edge tape in that colour kicking around some where.:thumbup:

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I am still laughing Coop:lol:



Your wife sounds she is very much like mine however she knows that when it comes to electrics around here it is a "no go" although she did threatened me with getting an electrician to change a faulty light tube once.;)



Mrs 1/2 Cup got a bee in her bonnet some time back about repainting the family room and kitchen and as every good electrician does I have wall to wall power point and switches. I said to her when you are ready I will lift them off the wall so you can paint ( I hate outlets that are painted over and stuck to the plaster with paint)



I came home from work one day and shock, horror:shocking: she had lifted every switch and outlet, covered each with a plastic sandwich bag to protect them as she painted. The twist to all this was they were all alive.:shocking:



Her only comment was in a very nonchalant tone "I have seen you do that often enough":dunno:

I walked away shaking my head and she went on painting.



Have a good one Coop, I am still smiling over that one.;)


I've got that same issue with painted over plates. That really irks me to no end....

Oh, Mrs. Coop did warn me that she would call in an electrician (other than me...) if I didn't get it done. I just kept forgetting about it...
 
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I've got that same issue with painted over plates. That really irks me to no end....

Oh, Mrs. Coop did warn me that she would call in an electrician (other than me...) if I didn't get it done. I just kept forgetting about it...

Coop, I thought it was just me and my OCD that hated paint on outlets and switches. Thank you for the support on that.:thumbup:

Another pet peeve is outlets and switches that are not straight and level, drives me nuts. :eyecrazy:

Put it on your to do list or you will be getting another account.:thumbup:

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I don't like the covers painted and usually buy new and screws need to all be straight up and down or all horizontal. Call me crazy, but if you only do every 10 or 15 years I don't need to spend much time on them.
 

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Coop, I thought it was just me and my OCD that hated paint on outlets and switches. Thank you for the support on that.:thumbup:



Another pet peeve is outlets and switches that are not straight and level, drives me nuts. :eyecrazy:



Put it on your to do list or you will be getting another account.:thumbup:



Regards


Not only that... All the screws in the plate have to be oriented with the slots aligned up...
 

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Sounds like a similar situation I had a few years ago...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

5 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: here, pay this... (Hands me a $250 bill from an electrician...). (Did I mention that I am an electrician? :dunno: )

Coop: (bites tounge and pays $250 to replace a $15 outlet...)

That's the best one I've read in weeks. :lol_hitti That's why I don't ignore the SO when she tells me about a concern of hers with her car. She would do the same thing if I didn't give it my immediate attention. Great story Coop.
 
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I don't like the covers painted and usually buy new and screws need to all be straight up and down or all horizontal. Call me crazy, but if you only do every 10 or 15 years I don't need to spend much time on them.

Way to go drives:thumbup:


Not only that... All the screws in the plate have to be oriented with the slots aligned up...

I am with you on that as well Coop:thumbup:

The wall outlets we use now have a cover plate that hides the fixing screws, Dressing a screw seems to be a lost art now a days. As an apprentice we would get a foot up the backside for not doing it correctly.:thumbup:

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That's the best one I've read in weeks. :lol_hitti That's why I don't ignore the SO when she tells me about a concern of hers with her car. She would do the same thing if I didn't give it my immediate attention. Great story Coop.

dlcwent I am still getting a laugh out of Coops story.:lol:

Have a great day everyone I am in for some Quality Shed Time.:thumbup:
 

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Just digressing a little and speaking of measuring twice and having to cut once!!!

Six months ago Mrs 1/2 Cup to 1/2 Cup "I would like a new fridge"

1/2 Cup to Mrs 1/2 Cup Why?? The one we have now is working well and does not have a mark on it.

Mrs 1/2 Cup to 1/2 Cup I would like one that's frost free.

1/2 Cup to Mrs 1/2 Cup mmmmm!

Just let it pass 1/2 Cup

Time goes by and three months ago

Mrs 1/2 Cup to 1/2 Cup "I would like a new fridge" as she was defrosting the fridge.

1/2 Cup to Mrs 1/2 Cup I didn't say much, our fridge is working well.:headscrat

Mrs 1/2 Cup to 1/2 Cup I would like one that's frost free.

1/2 Cup to Mrs 1/2 Cup mmmmm!

Earlier this week

Mrs 1/2 Cup to 1/2 Cup I am going to get a new fridge. ( being the independent type person she is)

1/2 Cup to Mrs 1/2 Cup Ok, check out what will fit in the existing cavity then left for work.

Get home from work and a fridge is sitting on our front veranda still in its packaging.

As most of you would know i absolutely detest moving furniture, I don't know exactly why but i just do however i will take this one on the chin. So out with the trolley and endeavour to bring the new fridge in the front door, ****** it will not fit by 1/2 an inch.
Plan B the lounge sliding doors which meant moving and rearranging furniture, you do what you have to do at times. After carefully manovering this beast through the obstacle course to get it in to the kitchen.

I unpacked the new fridge and after a quick assessment line of sight tells me mmm this is going to be a tight fit as it looked a little taller than the opening.

So out with the measuring stick mmmm and as it turned out the fridge door is 5/16 taller than the opening which means that when it is home in the cavity we have to open the door in order to access the over head cupboards.

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Option one - remove the castor wheels and levellers from the bottom of the fridge.

Option two - Remove, trim 3/16 from the over head cupboard draws.

Option three - Leave it as it is and put up with the inconvenience.:thumbup:

Note to file 1/2 Cup: Say nothing.


1/2 Cup,
LOL!

My wife keeps saying we need to buy a new fridge.
She wants a side by side fridge/freezer model.
We have no problem with height, but the width will be close on anything available.
I'll keep all this in mind the next time she brings it up.
 

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Sounds like a similar situation I had a few years ago...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

5 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: here, pay this... (Hands me a $250 bill from an electrician...). (Did I mention that I am an electrician? :dunno: )

Coop: (bites tounge and pays $250 to replace a $15 outlet...)

Steve

This reminds me of the Meme thing I've seen on FB (I think) saying:

Ladies, you've asked your man to do something, so he WILL do it. You just don't need to remind him every six months.....

;)

Lyndon
Is it Monday already? :headscrat
 

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Sounds like a similar situation I had a few years ago...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

5 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: the outlet on the deck is bad...

Coop: Ok... (It's one I never use...)

3 months go by...

Mrs. Coop: here, pay this... (Hands me a $250 bill from an electrician...). (Did I mention that I am an electrician? :dunno: )

Coop: (bites tounge and pays $250 to replace a $15 outlet...)

:lol_hitti ^ That's funny Coop.



...
The wall outlets we use now have a cover plate that hides the fixing screws...

View media item 42293...

We've got mostly that style now (as switches need replacing) - I like that the "outer cover" can be removed for painting without exposing any of the dangerous stuff. :thumbup:




Now 1/2Cup, about your fridge :headscrat...

I do recall that you had decided on "option 3" (which is why I didn't say anything about it at the time), but it would appear that the rest of us have lodged an appeal in regards to your aforementioned decision. :lol:

So due to this fresh opportunity to impart wisdom [although, some may dispute that I actually have any of that to spare (you saw my "trapped spanner" moment in my thread :lol:)], I thought that I should contribute my 2 cent's worth...

My preferred option would be to start by adding about a 1 inch high "wall" of white melamine board across the width of the cupboard (inside to inside) - sitting on top of the front edge of the bottom shelf (flush with the edge - for the doors to close against it).

Then (and this is the tricky bit, because availability may be an issue) ask your cabinet maker nephew if he can source an offcut of the colour-board to match your kitchen - also 1 inch wide and the length of the width (outside to outside this time) of the cupboard.
Attach this piece across the front of the unit (with the bottom of it flush with the under-side of the bottom shelf)

Then you can either trim an inch off the bottom of each door (easiest option) or off the top if you wanted the handles higher (although this would require repositioning the hinges).

I don't know if you can make heads or tails out of what I just said - I can picture it in my head, but it's hard to put into words. :eyecrazy:

I do have a "plan B" (in case the colour board can't be matched), but I've run out of time to explain it at present (I've finished my coffee, so I need to get back to work).

Edit - the "1 inch" measurement that I suggested is a nominal value only - it can be any measurement as long as it is greater than the interference with the fridge (the inside "white" board, the outside colour board and the amount that the doors are shortened need to be the same) - I just thought that about 1" would look best IMO.
 
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1/2 Cup,
LOL!

My wife keeps saying we need to buy a new fridge.
She wants a side by side fridge/freezer model.
We have no problem with height, but the width will be close on anything available.
I'll keep all this in mind the next time she brings it up.

Jon, Please do put in your data base, because it can end in tears.;)

Steve

This reminds me of the Meme thing I've seen on FB (I think) saying:

Ladies, you've asked your man to do something, so he WILL do it. You just don't need to remind him every six months.....

;)

Lyndon
Is it Monday already? :headscrat

Lyndon, I am usually on the ball with stuff like that and get on the front foot most of the time, I did say most of the time, but not every time.;)

I am sorry to let you in on a little secret but it is defiantly Monday already.:lol:

Have a good one everybody.:thumbup:
 
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:lol_hitti ^ That's funny Coop.



We've got mostly that style now (as switches need replacing) - I like that the "outer cover" can be removed for painting without exposing any of the dangerous stuff. :thumbup:




Now 1/2Cup, about your fridge :headscrat...

I do recall that you had decided on "option 3" (which is why I didn't say anything about it at the time), but it would appear that the rest of us have lodged an appeal in regards to your aforementioned decision. :lol:

So due to this fresh opportunity to impart wisdom [although, some may dispute that I actually have any of that to spare (you saw my "trapped spanner" moment in my thread :lol:)], I thought that I should contribute my 2 cent's worth...

My preferred option would be to start by adding about a 1 inch high "wall" of white melamine board across the width of the cupboard (inside to inside) - sitting on top of the front edge of the bottom shelf (flush with the edge - for the doors to close against it).

Then (and this is the tricky bit, because availability may be an issue) ask your cabinet maker nephew if he can source an offcut of the colour-board to match your kitchen - also 1 inch wide and the length of the width (outside to outside this time) of the cupboard.
Attach this piece across the front of the unit (with the bottom of it flush with the under-side of the bottom shelf)

Then you can either trim an inch off the bottom of each door (easiest option) or off the top if you wanted the handles higher (although this would require repositioning the hinges).

I don't know if you can make heads or tails out of what I just said - I can picture it in my head, but it's hard to put into words. :eyecrazy:

I do have a "plan B" (in case the colour board can't be matched), but I've run out of time to explain it at present (I've finished my coffee, so I need to get back to work).

Edit - the "1 inch" measurement that I suggested is a nominal value only - it can be any measurement as long as it is greater than the interference with the fridge (the inside "white" board, the outside colour board and the amount that the doors are shortened need to be the same) - I just thought that about 1" would look best IMO.

Mark, sorry I didn't reply earlier at lunch time I had to do the same and get back to work as you do.

Now that's a great suggestion and I can get my pea brain around exactly what you have described, my nephew owes me a few favours any way.:thumbup:

I will not have to alter the hinges or handles which is a plus and it keeps every thing symmetrical.

The bottom of the doors can be trimmed just a bees D as well and this maybe, just may be enough, fingers crossed.

At the end of the day I think ( maybe I am kidding myself here ) I will go back to my note to file and say nothing until it becomes the centre of our ( Mrs 1/2 Cup and me ) conversation again.

And thank you for your input, appreciated.:thumbup:
 
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As per normal things are fairly fluid around here at the best of times an none more so over the past week.

The MG F build is on hold for a little while, my eldest ( bless him ) informed me this morning that he has brought a new billet crank shaft for the race engine. The issue is that it is in Canberra some 6 hours drive from here, he also brought a heap of new spares and engines from the same place and he intends to travel there and pick it all up in three weeks.

The new Omega pistons were taken to Melbourne today to get modified so they will be a week or so off.

All this just as we were ready to get the balancing done any way it will give me a breather to concentrate on my projects for a while.

PS just on a side note he ran at Sandown yesterday in the MG F on last years engine or be it with the borrowed close ratio gearbox and the mod I did on the fuel injection manifold and he knocked two seconds off his PB on a long track circulating in the 1 min 36 second bracket for a pretty much stock standard 1.8 litre.:thumbup:
Just to put that in perspective the V8 super cars lap record is a 1 minute 9 sec.

So I am looking forward to seeing his in car footage.:thumbup:

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Hi 1/2 cup
Those light cars can really hammer ,was watching some historic racing at l think Sydney on TV over the weekend and a guy in a MG was giving the mustangs and a Camaro some real problems as they out accelerated him in the straights but he was all over them in corners even passing around the outside on the odd corner ,magic to watch
 
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WOW now that sounds impressive.

HOTFR8 He is quite chuffed with how the car is performing at the moment and I believe there is a bit more to be gained with suspension settings and tyre pressures. His driving style is improving at every event as he gains a greater understanding of the cars vagaries.:thumbup:

Hi 1/2 cup
Those light cars can really hammer ,was watching some historic racing at l think Sydney on TV over the weekend and a guy in a MG was giving the mustangs and a Camaro some real problems as they out accelerated him in the straights but he was all over them in corners even passing around the outside on the odd corner ,magic to watch

Thank aussiesteve, they are great to watch and even scarier behind the wheel in the corners back to my Mini days. I haven't had the privilege of driving the MG on the track at this point.:thumbup:


Just our luck, try to be fiscally responsible and it causes more work. Happy wife, happy life and a compressor to boot.

shorty I keep thinking of my note to file "say noting". you are so right.:thumbup:

Have a great day every one.
 

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1/2 cup, I've just caught up on the last couple of months. Great work on the engine and on the jobs around the shed. I'm as jealous as you are of your brothers setup! Hope things are getting back to normal for your sister in law.
 
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Thanks for dropping by Andrew:thumbup:

I am hoping to win the $20m lotto this weekend, it would solve a lot of issues and help some others out.:D

My sister in law is now settled in a new place in Geelong near to her mother and other two sisters, she is doing well now, or be it starting all over again.
She has had some fantastic support from all the family and friends.:thumbup:

Have a good on and thank you again.

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Hi 1/2

I am sorry I have to do this, it is a bit like the earlier mentioned light switch and paint issue, I just can't not say anything.

A few times I have noticed you say something that ends up with you using this type of phrasing

she is doing well now, or be it starting all over again.

What you should be using is "albeit", ie she is doing well now, albeit starting all over again :D

Cheers Steve
 
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Hi 1/2

I am sorry I have to do this, it is a bit like the earlier mentioned light switch and paint issue, I just can't not say anything.

A few times I have noticed you say something that ends up with you using this type of phrasing



What you should be using is "albeit", ie she is doing well now, albeit starting all over again :D

Cheers Steve

Steve :thumbup: I am afraid I want that attentive in English and grammar classes and spell check is not something I do use frequently.:lol:

Good one and thanks
 

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To side track the topic that reminds me of a story. Only in Australia could this happen.

An English lady Author visiting Australia is signing her recently written best seller book for Customers in a well known book store. Australian lady picks one up and walks over to her and says "Emma Chisset". Author takes the book from her and it is signed - to Emma Chisset. Australian lady looks back shocked and speaks again this time more clearly -"No I asked how much is it?"

Talk about strangling the English language.
 

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To side track the topic that reminds me of a story. Only in Australia could this happen.

An English lady Author visiting Australia is signing her recently written best seller book for Customers in a well known book store. Australian lady picks one up and walks over to her and says "Emma Chisset". Author takes the book from her and it is signed - to Emma Chisset. Australian lady looks back shocked and speaks again this time more clearly -"No I asked how much is it?"

Talk about strangling the English language.

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Good one HotFR8, don't have to be an Aussie to get that one.

note to 1/2 cup... trim doors... less work:dunno:
 
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To side track the topic that reminds me of a story. Only in Australia could this happen.

An English lady Author visiting Australia is signing her recently written best seller book for Customers in a well known book store. Australian lady picks one up and walks over to her and says "Emma Chisset". Author takes the book from her and it is signed - to Emma Chisset. Australian lady looks back shocked and speaks again this time more clearly -"No I asked how much is it?"

Talk about strangling the English language.

HOTFR8 An I gotta say I am guilty a charged.:thumbup:

:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti Good one HotFR8, don't have to be an Aussie to get that one.

note to 1/2 cup... trim doors... less work:dunno:

Dan, The do nothing option is starting to appeal to me at the moment.:thumbup:

Have a great day guys, I am looking forward to the weekend.:thumbup:
 

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To side track the topic that reminds me of a story. Only in Australia could this happen.

An English lady Author visiting Australia is signing her recently written best seller book for Customers in a well known book store. Australian lady picks one up and walks over to her and says "Emma Chisset". Author takes the book from her and it is signed - to Emma Chisset. Australian lady looks back shocked and speaks again this time more clearly -"No I asked how much is it?"

Talk about strangling the English language.

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