AC Hydraulics distributor
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Well my jack stands and jack finally arrived from Flema Products! Nothing was lost, scratched or broken thanks to excessive use of shrink wrap...
There are two jack stands in there some where...
The 3000N-GS1
The jack was packaged similarly well requiring a degree in archeology to get it out.
The assembled DK20 (It's so much heavier than it looks!)
DK 20 rear
DK 20 handle detail
The experience was good. I was initially unnerved by the check or wire transfer only payment method but the communication was excellent... emails were answered promptly so that helped to mollify some of my concerns. Interestingly the the jack never says "Made in Denmark". It has their address where the serial number is but nothing denoting a country of origin. Maybe they don't put that on their products... who knows. So if you're in the US and looking for a supplier besides AC hydraulics.com here you go.
There are two jack stands in there some where...
The 3000N-GS1
The jack was packaged similarly well requiring a degree in archeology to get it out.
The assembled DK20 (It's so much heavier than it looks!)
DK 20 rear
DK 20 handle detail
The experience was good. I was initially unnerved by the check or wire transfer only payment method but the communication was excellent... emails were answered promptly so that helped to mollify some of my concerns. Interestingly the the jack never says "Made in Denmark". It has their address where the serial number is but nothing denoting a country of origin. Maybe they don't put that on their products... who knows. So if you're in the US and looking for a supplier besides AC hydraulics.com here you go.
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GDA
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^ Now thats some nice stuff! Reminds me of the day I received mine from Ultgar. Enjoy them.
allapanoo
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Pretty ugly welds on the jack stands.The jack looks really nice though.
Holly Styrofoam Batman! Looks like it was packed with leftover packing materials. My DK13 sure didn't look like that when it arrived, but I got mine from http://www.ACJACKS.com (aka AC-Hydraulics.com). I wasn't going to risk writing a check to someone in a foreign county when I could enjoy the protection of using a credit card and support a US company at the same rate.
Congrats on the DK20 purchase 928sl
they really are great jacks (AC Hydraulic). I'm gonna go order some of those pretty AC Hydraulic flat top jacks stands now...
Congrats on the DK20 purchase 928sl
they really are great jacks (AC Hydraulic). I'm gonna go order some of those pretty AC Hydraulic flat top jacks stands now...Vinko
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Yeah -- I like the design of the 3000 series. Also agree though about the look of the welds. No biggie, but just a little preference on my part. I still can't decide between Esco and AC. I guess I'll continue to talk about it for another year, before actually buying something 
benjamming
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Do the jack stands state COO unlike the jack?
There are no markings on the stands except for the logo, weight limit, and caution stickers. The jack doesn't have a definite coo either...
I just wanted to re-ask this previous question.
If anyone has access to both of these, could you post a comparison? Is the AC really worth the extra $$$? Is blue paint that expensive or is it really that well-made?
I am leaning towards "yes, you get what you pay for" because of my experience with Ranger. I just got in one of their engine stands - and while the guys out in the CA warehouse did a great job getting me a few parts missing from the box
- I have to wonder about the integrity of the welds that hold it together. Luckily it will not have to hold anywhere near the 2 tons it supposedly is rated for.Thanks!
kwyjibo: Here is a thread on a Subaru Legacy site where "ClimberD" purchased a Ranger jack and talks about the problems he had with it... One thing I noticed in his pictures (pg 3) is that the Ranger model does not look like it has the same low profile the DK20 has -a must have trait for low cars. Here is a image from http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_003.htm
and the image of the ranger:
As for reliability, I have personal experience with the AC Hydraulic (great jacks) but none with the Ranger BendPak product...
and the image of the ranger:
As for reliability, I have personal experience with the AC Hydraulic (great jacks) but none with the Ranger BendPak product...
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Zrexxer
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While that speaks well of your attention to detail, if I were paying $700+ for a jack, I think I'd want one without plastic wheels that appear easily broken...
Thanks MotecM - that's exactly the last bit of information I needed to talk myself into a decision.
I've only seen the photo from the Ranger/BendPak site (attached) and from the extended/raised position it looks like the AC painted red - similar frame design. But obviously the lever (? - part that would hit your rocker panel or bumper/airdam) is different enough that it's no longer as "low profile" as the AC.
Now, if the price would only come down from OMG!-levels....
I've only seen the photo from the Ranger/BendPak site (attached) and from the extended/raised position it looks like the AC painted red - similar frame design. But obviously the lever (? - part that would hit your rocker panel or bumper/airdam) is different enough that it's no longer as "low profile" as the AC.
Now, if the price would only come down from OMG!-levels....
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RE 928si, I have no idea where you ordered from but that looks like it went through a tornado.
Here is my unboxing thread on my DK13HLQ that I ordered from www.acjacks.com two weeks ago. I also ordered 4 of the AC Jacks Flat Top Stands.
Full thread at Rennlist:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforu...hydraulic-floorjack-dk13hlq-993-approved.html
Pics:
104 pound package
Opening it up from the top
Cut the end open
Removed the packing at the end
Cut the saran-wrap off and start rolling it out
Remove the wood block
Install the handle on the leverage bar
Attach to base
Ta-da
Time to get my lift on
Talk about height
And of course, getting low and getting in far enough is the number one reason to get this jack
And finally, her resting area
Here is my unboxing thread on my DK13HLQ that I ordered from www.acjacks.com two weeks ago. I also ordered 4 of the AC Jacks Flat Top Stands.
Full thread at Rennlist:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforu...hydraulic-floorjack-dk13hlq-993-approved.html
Pics:
104 pound package
Opening it up from the top
Cut the end open
Removed the packing at the end
Cut the saran-wrap off and start rolling it out
Remove the wood block
Install the handle on the leverage bar
Attach to base
Ta-da
Time to get my lift on
Talk about height
And of course, getting low and getting in far enough is the number one reason to get this jack
And finally, her resting area
joeswamp
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I would love to see the internals of these jacks.
Manual (with exploded diagrams) can be seen here, from
http://www.wuerth.no/pdf/manualer/brukermanual_garasjejekk_2tonn_071554110.pdf
A picture of the rebuild kit is here:
http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_005.htm
The ram is sealed by parts 9 and 10 on the diagram, an "o-ring" and "backup ring". However based on the picture it looks like the o-ring has a rectangular cross section. To be honest I'm not exactly sure how this sealing system works as the backup ring seems to be on the wrong side of the o-ring.
It does look like a quality setup -- it should be for this price!
On Pelican Parts I saw an idiot that was saying that it drops to fast and that he couldn't that for the money he spent the jack wouldn't lower slower. I had to laugh to myself about an idiot that would spend that much money on a product and not read the manual.
Since the problem is that he probably doesn't read I created this video to help guys like him.
AC Hydraulic DK13HLQ Drop Speed Adjustment Video
Since the problem is that he probably doesn't read I created this video to help guys like him.
AC Hydraulic DK13HLQ Drop Speed Adjustment Video
ultgar
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On Pelican Parts I saw an idiot that was saying that it drops to fast and that he couldn't that for the money he spent the jack wouldn't lower slower. I had to laugh to myself about an idiot that would spend that much money on a product and not read the manual.
Since the problem is that he probably doesn't read I created this video to help guys like him.
AC Hydraulic DK13HLQ Drop Speed Adjustment Video
There have been a few complaints about the fast drop speed of the DK13HLQ over the years. It takes a fine touch but once you get used to it, no problem. I had a well respected member of the BMW forums turn around and sell his DK13 shortly after he purchased it because of this issue.
The DK20 and DK13 use the same hydraulics. If AC were to change the valving for the DK13 jack, it would be very difficult to get it to drop without any load on it. SD
The assembled DK20 (It's so much heavier than it looks!)
I noticed that you put your rubber pad on top of the metal saddle. Is that the proper way to do it? I removed the metal saddle and put the rubber one in its place...to keep it more low-profile. I guess it doesn't matter?
The manual shows the rubber pad inserted into the saddle in the exploded parts diagram. After lifting a few times, the rubber pad is now flush with the saddle. That pic was taken before I lifted anything with it.
Confirmed by Steve also...
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Mike.ASC
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Greetings everyone . I just registered for this forum as a result of extensive searching for a source for the "AC Hydraulics " jacks . I have been in the Automotive Service business for over 25+ years now and I am in need of replacing my old "Lincoln" floor jack . Bought it 20+ years ago back when it was still made in the USA . As many of you have probably been finding out as of late the only USA made jacks are "Milwaukee Hydraulics " I would love to buy one of these but they are too cost prohibitive for me but at the same time I refuse to risk my life under a chinese made jack that dont last more then a few years. I also need the capabilities of the lower clearance like on the AC Hydraulics jack . Anyway my reason for this post is that after extensive research I have found a distributor in Washington state that said he would be willing to do a group discount with a minimum of 6 jacks. the cost for the DK20 would be $410.00 total (free shipping & no tax , I have a tax #) with a order of 6 or more jacks . Obviously I dont need 6 jacks so I thought I would see if anyone else would be interested in a group purchase , the only issue would be they would have to be picked up from my business address in Waldorf Md because in order for the distributor to give us the shipping for free he could only ship to one address . If anyone is interested or has any other ideas or questions I can be reached at 301 870 9888 or 301 653 7768 ....Mike .
benjamming
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Hein Werner is made in USA albeit by a Chinese company.
Weaver jacks are made in USA.
Milwaukee is out of your price range but $410 for a DK20 is not?
Weaver jacks are made in USA.
Milwaukee is out of your price range but $410 for a DK20 is not?
Hein Werner still produces the same Jack that Walker designed 70 years ago, along with the same seals, same valve system. Along with Milwaukee you still have Weaver which is a 100% made American jack. Im not condoning your effort to sell AC Hydraulics but they have will have to prove themselves to me before i will push them over Shinn Fu owned Hein Werner still made here in the states.
Mike.ASC
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Hiball . I am not "pushing any particular brand jack nor am I trying to convince anyone of the quality or lack of quality of any brand . I am not in the tool or equipment business so I have no vested interest in any brands other then what my personal opinions are . All I am attempting to do by my post is to see if there are any others that have already decided that they would like to get the same jack but at a better price . I have already made my decision that this is the jack I will purchase with or without the "Group" discount .
Np, I was just clearing up some of your misinformation on the availability of Quality jacks outside the "chinese jacks that only last a couple years" by noting them. I wish you good luck in your search for finding 5 more people to achieve your price.
RotaryRevn
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Hi Mike, thanks for taking the lead on this! I too was searching AC jacks when I came upon this site. I am interested in a GB but I would like the DK13HLQ. This jack suits my needs due to how low it is, and it's far reaching and can raise up a car pretty high. If you could somehow add this other jack model into the GB, I'm sure you will have more people joining as this seems to be the popular jack. Maybe the guy will give low pricing no matter which jack we buy, as long as there is 6? I'm soo sick of this chinese ****. I would not be able to pick up the jack at your place.... would you be willing to ship it at my expense?
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Vinko
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I'd be interested, but shipping from WA to MD and back the other way to CA wouldn't make sense. If you can find a work around, I'd seriously consider it.
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Hmmm, maybe we could get 6 guys from So Cal. and have all the jacks sent to one location?
Vinko
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I'm getting tempted to just buy one from here:
http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_003.htm
comparing the prices of the other model, to the group buy price, looks like it will only be about $130 cheaper with the group buy (which may or may not happen. If we did have to pay shipping from MD, there is $100 bucks right there. I need a jack yesterday. I will monitor this a few days.
http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_003.htm
comparing the prices of the other model, to the group buy price, looks like it will only be about $130 cheaper with the group buy (which may or may not happen. If we did have to pay shipping from MD, there is $100 bucks right there. I need a jack yesterday. I will monitor this a few days.
vssjim
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If you want to also keep your old Lincoln jack you can also send the hydraulic pump to Highball to rebuild as he does lots of jacks for people
@Vinko
This page states that the flat top AC jack stands are made in Denmark: http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_004.htm
This page states that the flat top AC jack stands are made in Denmark: http://www.acjacks.com/acjacks_004.htm
^ No one seems to know for sure about origin of them, and if I remember right Vinko didn't get a clear response from the factory either...
What I do know is that the AC stands (I have them) have better tolerances and a nicer rubber pad, while the ESCO stands have a better finish (buddy of mine has them).
I much rather have the AC Hydraulic's better construction because the finish can be dealt with...can you say powder coat!
If someone wants to know for sure you should email Kenny V. Andersen from AC Hydraulics.
I only once asked him about the hydraulic jacks because i had seen a made in china jack which looked 1:1 like the AC jack and he answered:
"Yes we still make all AC products in Denmark at our factory in Viborg
The products in the pictures are copies of our DK20HLQ and they are made in China.
We will never go to China and make products as long we canŽt trust quality level.
At enclosed catalogue you can see our factory."
"We have a very modern production with laser cutting, bending robots, welding robots and of course CNC machinery. We produce everything our self - the frame is laser cutter, bended and welded, cylinders are machined in our CNC and all pump units hand hydraulic and air hydraulic we also make our self. The following parts we buy - wheels, Jack saddle, rubber saddle, seals "
I personally would prefer axle stands like this:
I only once asked him about the hydraulic jacks because i had seen a made in china jack which looked 1:1 like the AC jack and he answered:
"Yes we still make all AC products in Denmark at our factory in Viborg
The products in the pictures are copies of our DK20HLQ and they are made in China.
We will never go to China and make products as long we canŽt trust quality level.
At enclosed catalogue you can see our factory."
"We have a very modern production with laser cutting, bending robots, welding robots and of course CNC machinery. We produce everything our self - the frame is laser cutter, bended and welded, cylinders are machined in our CNC and all pump units hand hydraulic and air hydraulic we also make our self. The following parts we buy - wheels, Jack saddle, rubber saddle, seals "
I personally would prefer axle stands like this:
I personally would prefer axle stands like this:
Ohh, I like that. Need more info...
If you find where to get it, please post as I am definitely interested in purchasing (seriously). I tried to find it here in the US with no luck; I even looked for the original European manufacturer with no luck. I'll see if I can find the leads that Monty provided previously, in case you have better luck with them than I.
Edit: Here it is: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=972203&postcount=20
Alberto
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Hey guys, I just saw this on another site...
Looks like Pelican Parts has the jacks in stock....and are much cheaper than the prices listed elsewhere. Not sure how valid the "in stock" numbers are, but might be worth a shot for those who have been waiting to get one of these from a US distributor.
Here are their offerings:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1-detail.htm
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Looks like Pelican Parts has the jacks in stock....and are much cheaper than the prices listed elsewhere. Not sure how valid the "in stock" numbers are, but might be worth a shot for those who have been waiting to get one of these from a US distributor.
Here are their offerings:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1-detail.htm
First post updated....
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