sberry
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Thanks. I want to comment on this. I don't forget what it was like to be a kid. On these forums I tend to work on places where I have evolved. I been at this a long time with lots of trial and error, been doing my own design and look at all the blunders and the worries I had.
I had sporadic mentorship, some as bad as I was and was the king of overkill, had every fitting they invented with a pipe 2 sizes bigger than it needed to be. I wasted a lot of time and money, sorry on points that didn't mean a pinch of poop once the dust settled, some abandoned, some never fully utilized.
I still do it if I get a head start especially with new designs despite knowing better. It's often easier to tell others than to internalize this. What is does is cloud the true demand factor for lack of better wording. Is it really true I had voltage drop or didn't get enough air? Did I really bust knuckles with MIT China end wrenches? What wasvthe real rate of return? On quality, on pipe or wire upside or did I ever use any of the **** I thought I was future proofing?
Today I use 50 ft of 14 cord where I would have worked like a dog and bought another 25 of 12 just in case. Almost none,,,,,, and I mean none of that **** I worried about came true and I never need an air pipe bigger than 1/2 in my own situation. This is slightly,,, and in some cases a lot different than planning industrial demand and averaging.
Does one really need to plan for an invasion of gearheads coming over, all machining, welding and sending at the same time and how much would it hurt if 2 of them turned an air tool on for a few seconds on the same line,,, especially when 1/2 will still supply 2da sanders anyway.
We seem to base the demands all on 20A and 100 ft when this isn't the case in most of these garages, we pipe based on ficticiouc estimations, 3/4 for 25 ftvruns and 5 up comps so,,,, I don't run out of air while a 3/8 hose will quickly drain that comp while sandblasting.
I try not to forget where I made that mistake and look out where I have resources still parked.
I had sporadic mentorship, some as bad as I was and was the king of overkill, had every fitting they invented with a pipe 2 sizes bigger than it needed to be. I wasted a lot of time and money, sorry on points that didn't mean a pinch of poop once the dust settled, some abandoned, some never fully utilized.
I still do it if I get a head start especially with new designs despite knowing better. It's often easier to tell others than to internalize this. What is does is cloud the true demand factor for lack of better wording. Is it really true I had voltage drop or didn't get enough air? Did I really bust knuckles with MIT China end wrenches? What wasvthe real rate of return? On quality, on pipe or wire upside or did I ever use any of the **** I thought I was future proofing?
Today I use 50 ft of 14 cord where I would have worked like a dog and bought another 25 of 12 just in case. Almost none,,,,,, and I mean none of that **** I worried about came true and I never need an air pipe bigger than 1/2 in my own situation. This is slightly,,, and in some cases a lot different than planning industrial demand and averaging.
Does one really need to plan for an invasion of gearheads coming over, all machining, welding and sending at the same time and how much would it hurt if 2 of them turned an air tool on for a few seconds on the same line,,, especially when 1/2 will still supply 2da sanders anyway.
We seem to base the demands all on 20A and 100 ft when this isn't the case in most of these garages, we pipe based on ficticiouc estimations, 3/4 for 25 ftvruns and 5 up comps so,,,, I don't run out of air while a 3/8 hose will quickly drain that comp while sandblasting.
I try not to forget where I made that mistake and look out where I have resources still parked.
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