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About $10 off on the ratchet crimper and 6 dies for various connectors.

I use this for all my low intensity auto and trailer stuff and think it works pretty decently.

And the blow molded case is nice and fits a pair of wire strippers.


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those are nice. I've found ratcheting types are a bit hard to use when dealing with cramped spaces so these are my go-tos:

different vendor:
 

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About $10 off on the ratchet crimper and 6 dies for various connectors.

I use this for all my low intensity auto and trailer stuff and think it works pretty decently.

And the blow molded case is nice and fits a pair of wire strippers.


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For $2 more, the new version requires no tools to change the dies. And it has a soft case instead of the blow molded one.




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For $2 more, the new version requires no tools to change the dies. And it has a soft case instead of the blow molded one.




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It's a shame they ditched the blow molded case on this version
 

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For $2 more, the new version requires no tools to change the dies. And it has a soft case instead of the blow molded one.




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It's a shame they ditched the blow molded case on this version


Good spot on this newer version, but I think I'd rather have the blow molded case over the soft case.
 

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I have had the new version of the haisstronica crimpers since Dec, the quick change jaws are much preferred for me and the soft case is manageable. Its just an open pouch in there for the jaws, so I left the jaws in the individual bags they came in. They were just over $35 when I got them so it might be worth waiting for a discount or coupon since the base price is only $42 now.
 

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It’s less on eBay, $44.98 shipped + tax. KC Tool is the seller
Nice catch. I got a couple other items in the Labor Day sale to justify the shipping cost. There’s some smoking deals in there but a couple of the favorites sold out fast. 2 items I decided to sleep on, I woke up to see sold out overnight.
 

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I would hate dealing with the locking/unlocking vice-grip action every time. No thanks for me.
that would probably get annoying if you had to use it all day! I just like collecting cool/unique/useful tools. So long as it works well I will enjoy having it. I only crimp this type of terminal a few times a week so I wont care about that. The majority of my wiring uses proprietary crimp tools for OEM connectors, so I just don't do much of this one size fits all crimping other than ring terminals for grounds.
 

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that would probably get annoying if you had to use it all day! I just like collecting cool/unique/useful tools. So long as it works well I will enjoy having it. I only crimp this type of terminal a few times a week so I wont care about that. The majority of my wiring uses proprietary crimp tools for OEM connectors, so I just don't do much of this one size fits all crimping other than ring terminals for grounds.

Yeah the ratchet crimpers are for low stress work. For the more important stuff I use others like the Deutsch.
 
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Posted in the Toyo/Trusco tool box thread, but sharing here as well. I just noticed the silver Trusco Y-350 was available for me on Amazon for $12.59 with free shipping. Usually when I see these with low prices there's a $25-30 shipping charge attached. I grabbed two more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A5KL48?tag=atomicindus08-20

Thank you - been wanting to try some of these for a while
FYI will not ship to business account,only personal
 

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Posted in the Toyo/Trusco tool box thread, but sharing here as well. I just noticed the silver Trusco Y-350 was available for me on Amazon for $12.59 with free shipping. Usually when I see these with low prices there's a $25-30 shipping charge attached. I grabbed two more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002A5KL48?tag=atomicindus08-20
Thanks for posting this! I've wanted to try these, but shipping always held me back. I ordered 4. I would save $$$ if I stayed away from GJ! :ROFLMAO:
 

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If those Amazon Japan toolboxes are coming from Japan, will there be a tariff charge when they clear customs here in the US? The de minimis exemption was removed today, so shipments that previously had no tariffs applied will now have tariffs and processing fees charged. From what I understand, that will make those $13 toolboxes a lot more expensive.
 

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^ If they were $12.59 each when I completed the transaction online, that is exactly how much I am going to pay for them.
What are they going to do? Try to tack on additional charges after the sale has been completed?
That would simply be a matter of refusing delivery.
 

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^ If they were $12.59 each when I completed the transaction online, that is exactly how much I am going to pay for them.
What are they going to do? Try to tack on additional charges after the sale has been completed?
That would simply be a matter of refusing delivery.

Normally, the delivery company pays the tariff on your behalf and then requires payment for the tariff and processing fees before delivery will occur. If you don't pay, the item won't be delivered.
 

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okay. if it's not delivered, I won't pay for it.
one of the many advantages to using a credit card and having decades-long relationships with the same banks. (y)

what are they gonna do? sue me? :cool:

turn it over to a collection agency? good luck with that one. :LOL:
 

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I'm genuinely curious, and I'm sure many others are as well. Please let us all know how you guys make out with the toolbox order.
 

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I am fairly positive that Amazon orders are DDP. This means they will cover the tariffs up front. EDIT: I don’t actually know this; I am making an assumption. YMMV.

I deal with tariffs weekly.. I ship a lot internationally and have international vendors/suppliers. I’m not an expert but I am experienced enough in it that I hold my own.

There are good reasons for Amazon to do it DDP for their customers.

For 1, like four.cycle is saying he will refuse delivery… Amazon would be dealing with this reaction thousands of times a day. Americans are not used to dealing with tariffs in their personal life and it will take years (if the tariffs stick) for that permeate our daily lives and become an accepted part of life.

Then you have to consider the fiscal efficiency. The tariff is a factor applied to the items value as it crosses the border. This means it has a much greater effect on retail consumers than it does on businesses importing the same item. The consumer is importing at retail value, the wholesaler or manufacturer is importing at production or wholesale cost.

Say you buy a $100 item from Japan and it’s due the 15% tariff... that will of course be $15 plus brokerage charges from the carrier (think of document fees when you buy a car, they are charging for doing the paperwork, and it’s a RACKET, and they try and hide it as part of the government fees. Example I have a package right now from DHL the tariff is $2.14 the brokerage fees are $17 something).

While Amazon still owns that tool box, it can cross the border at their wholesale value. So maybe that’s $40. Now the tariff is $6 and certainly they have their own internal brokers anyway so no additional brokerage fees. So they can get you the package cheaper in the end by them maintaining ownership of the product until final delivery (they need to be the importer of record, not you. So first it ships from Amazon Japan to another Amazon entity in the USA, then it ships to you. If your name is on it when it leaves Japan than the tariffs are on retail value, no matter who is paying the bill.).

So I hope they are just raising the price displayed to cover the tariffs up front. Because they cost more on our end if we have to pay them as the IOR.
 
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I believe there is an $80 minimum tariff. It’s the recipient's responsibility to pay. Sometimes recipients have contracted with a freight forwarder to clear customs for them and have the ability to refuse delivery. This is why a lot of countries have stopped shipping to the United States. It will be a fond memory when we only complained about shipping costs.
 
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^ If they were $12.59 each when I completed the transaction online, that is exactly how much I am going to pay for them.
What are they going to do? Try to tack on additional charges after the sale has been completed?
That would simply be a matter of refusing delivery.
Don't kill the messenger, but I can tell you from my personal experience ordering from Germany this month that you will need to pay additional money upon import.

The seller (Amazon in your case) does not charge/collect import taxes like they do with sales taxes. The shipping company (like UPS) will pay the import taxes directly to the government on your behalf when completing the import process for you. Amazon has nothing to do with this. The shipping company charges you a fee for the service of completing the import process and paying the import taxes due on your behalf (called a brokerage fee). On low value shipments, the brokerage fee may be more costly than the taxes paid.

The shipping company will ask you (the importer) to pay for the taxes and brokerage fee before or upon delivery. If you refuse, they will not give you the package and will return to sender (Amazon in your case). I believe most foreign sellers would charge you for the cost of return shipping (probably not Amazon, but who knows).

I can't tell you what else will happen if you refuse the package because the elimination of the de minimis exemption is a totally new development for the US shipping companies. But in other countries, you would still be on the hook for the brokerage fee and the shipping company will send you a bill. They already did that work and expect to get paid.

People from most countries around the planet are already used to import taxes and brokerage fees when receiving foreign shipments. The elimination of the de minimis exemption means that most US Americans are about to experience this pain for the first time.
 

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Shippers can pay the tariffs as well. I’m not promising that Amazon is, just assuming they would factor it into the price and charge it up front / build it into the price. Maybe they won’t, but that’s a tragic waste of money as how I explained in my last comment.

I just bought a sign from LC Sign in a China, the company that’s real popular in social media because of their guy Tony :D they shipped the sign to me UPS DDP. The price they quoted me was delivered and there was no tariffs due because they paid it on the front end. On the label it says “Billing: F/D”. If you google that you get:

When a UPS label says "Billing F/D," it means Free Domicile, where the shipper is responsible for all shipping charges, including the transportation costs and any duties or taxes associated with customs. This is also known as a Delivered Duty Paid (DDP) shipment.

So I’m sure we will find out in this thread in the next week or 2 if Amazon Japan and Amazon Germany packages are sent DDP or not
 

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I believe there is an $80 minimum tariff. It’s the recipient's responsibility to pay. Sometimes recipients have contracted with a freight forwarder to clear customs for them and have the ability to refuse delivery. This is why a lot of countries have stopped shipping to the United States. It will be a fond memory when we only complained about shipping costs.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the $80 flat rate tariff applies to postal services and not UPS/DHL/FedEx. I think what this is, since they are not prepared to handle all this, for 6 months they are allowed to bypass the detailed paperwork and charge a flat rate $80 per package from COO nations with tariffs 15% or below.

It’s $160 flat rate in place of 16-25% and $200 flat rate in place of 26%+.

As the consumer we truly are a random victims with no genuine control over what carrier the shipper uses or how accurately the broker service processes the packages. UPS owes me several hundreds in refunds due to their brokerage mistakes and they are telling me they are so backed up with these problems that it will take 8+ months to get my money back.
 

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Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the $80 flat rate tariff applies to postal services and not UPS/DHL/FedEx. I think what this is, since they are not prepared to handle all this, for 6 months they are allowed to bypass the detailed paperwork and charge a flat rate $80 per package from COO nations with tariffs 15% or below.

It’s $160 flat rate in place of 16-25% and $200 flat rate in place of 26%+.

As the consumer we truly are a random victims with no genuine control over what carrier the shipper uses or how accurately the broker service processes the packages. UPS owes me several hundreds in refunds due to their brokerage mistakes and they are telling me they are so backed up with these problems that it will take 8+ months to get my money back.


I believe the flat rates are on all shipments less than $800, regardless of the shipping company or freight forwarder. Collecting $2 on a $20 dollar package isn’t cost effective, which was the reason for the de minimus category in the first place. That’s why Temu started to warehouse items in the US. There basically will not be small packages entering the US.
 

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I believe the flat rates are on all shipments less than $800, regardless of the shipping company or freight forwarder. Collecting $2 on a $20 dollar package isn’t cost effective, which was the reason for the de minimus category in the first place. That’s why Temu started to warehouse items in the US. There basically will not be small packages entering the US.
I have a small DHL package from Japan pending delivery right now with $2.14 tariffs + brokerage. I have had a bunch of UPS packages from China since May 2 when Section 321 De Minimus exemption for China was closed, and all of these were tariffed at actual rate, none of them over $800 value.
 
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