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The One

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Has anyone had good or bad experience with Andersen windows?

I'm looking for a well constructed and highly-insulated window.

HD has the 70 series for ridiculously cheap in vinyl which is tempting.
 
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When I did replacements, I dug deep and got a lot of positive reviews for Sunrise Windows. I couldn't be happier. Check them out.
Can't really help with the Andersons.
 

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Are you thinking of replacement style or new construction? Anderson makes a very good window. But if your wanting vinyl there are a lot of options out there, even private labels that are good. With the Anderson you get a nicer interior jamb and finishes.
 

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Pella's vinyl windows are nicer than Anderson's, but there are some smaller German manufacturers that make much nicer vinyl windows.
 

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I've used the Tilt Wash 400 series with prefinished interiors, in 5 different houses over the last 20 years. No issues, all working fine and looking good, including the screens.

Local busy lumberyards will group customer orders together to get truckload pricing for you.
 

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I would avoid HD. Instead of the 'one size fits all', get the window in the exact size you need. Also, be prepared to open up the area around your window to see what you have in there. You need to get the right kind of window. Do some research on window flashing. Doing it right will make a big difference.

Anderson and Pela are good. Is Milgard an option in your area?

I have Milgard....Fiberglass on the outside, vinyl inside....low E, double pane.

The fiberglass outside means I can paint them. Translation, I don't have white windows.
 
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Are you thinking of replacement style or new construction? Anderson makes a very good window. But if your wanting vinyl there are a lot of options out there, even private labels that are good. With the Anderson you get a nicer interior jamb and finishes.

It is an existing uninsulated, unfinished interior garage with vinyl siding so I have fairly easy access if I need to.

HD has the windows at $115 (they're probably more once I factor in a different exterior color).

Pella's vinyl windows are nicer than Anderson's, but there are some smaller German manufacturers that make much nicer vinyl windows.

What do you mean by "nicer"? I've been to multiple supply shops and everyone seems to have a different idea of what nice is and it never seems to jive with what I want... No I don't want nice wood finishes, no I don't want fancy glass patterns, no I don't want grills in the windows, no I don't want some fancy materials that you can't tell me what the benefits are, no I don't want lower r-values because they let the air mix with the outside air, no low-e isn't just a marketing term. Sigh...

I would avoid HD. Instead of the 'one size fits all', get the window in the exact size you need. Also, be prepared to open up the area around your window to see what you have in there. You need to get the right kind of window. Do some research on window flashing. Doing it right will make a big difference.

Anderson and Pela are good. Is Milgard an option in your area?

I have Milgard....Fiberglass on the outside, vinyl inside....low E, double pane.

The fiberglass outside means I can paint them. Translation, I don't have white windows.

I'm 99% sure the existing windows are a standard size (read: I can't imagine the existing cheap windows were made to be custom when everything else is fairly standard in the garage). Best I can tell they are 36x24". I'm assuming I want the full window not just the window insert that someplaces are trying to promote?

Nice big windows would be nice, but I don't think they'd be super practical in my garage/workshop. On nice summer days I can always open my big garage doors and enjoy the view.

I am working on my YouTube university degree for installing windows. I'll do more research into flashing.

I haven't seen Milgard but maybe I haven't looked for them either.
 
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I've used the Tilt Wash 400 series with prefinished interiors, in 5 different houses over the last 20 years. No issues, all working fine and looking good, including the screens.

Local busy lumberyards will group customer orders together to get truckload pricing for you.

Thanks for the tip on grouping orders. Right now I've been just getting ballpark numbers and quotes. Once I finalize what I need I will be sure to negotiate and see if they can group my order.
 

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I have the hd Anderson’s but with wood interiors. Ten years and no problems. Never used the all vinyl ones.


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Recently installed a couple of Pella Thermastar vinyl windows from Lowes on a rental & like them, replacing some early 1970's aluminum framed windows that were quite drafty. The windows were not remodel type as the siding was being replaced.
 

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Our previous house we lived in for 24 yrs. At about year 19 we had a window break. I did some googling, found the etched numbers in the corner of the glass, called Anderson, and they shipped me a replacement window pane. They have videos on how to replace the pane. We can all discuss the various types of windows etc, but getting replacement parts for 19 yr old windows made me very satisfied. Satisfied enough that I bought replacement panes for the front bedroom windows that had sun beating on them from noon til sun down. The upgrade to low e was very noticeable.
 

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The 70 series windows are not “real” Andersen windows. They are actually sold under the American Craftsman name. Andersen bought a company that makes vinyl windows. I am not sure they are any better that other box store windows like Jeldwen.

I have had Andersen 400 series windows in two houses now for over 15 years and very happy with them. However, they can’t really be compared to their vinyl windows.
 

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It sound like you are looking for some value in a garage ..vs replacing all in a house with better windows.

Anderson has bought out many companies -- so they make various lines. At $115 -- you are not looking at any high quality product.

The 400 series -- the the old reliable line with many options. Have used them with greta results .... but they are much more vs the 70 line that not really an anderson window.
 

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Bought all replacement (insert) windows from HD about 7-8 years ago under the American Craftsman name. The price point of that house did not justify really high end windows, but we certainly saw a difference in our power bill from the upgrade. I custom ordered all but one to get the best fit. I don't think of them were over $200. I ordered in batches of 3-5 because I was DIYing and I didn't want to be digging through a stack of 18 windows to find the one I was working on today.

One tip I found was to make sure you transport and store the windows in the upright position. They can lay on the side, top, or bottom, but the glass itself should be vertical. The idea is that the seals are intended to work in that position. If you were to lay them flat during transport, the seal could be damaged from the vibration of going down the road. Not sure how big of a concern this is, but I did my best to adhere to it.
 

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I use the 400 series for a lot of reasons. I know I can get parts later, or match an existing window, or easily change the hardware finish, or get a almost any custom size if needed.

Also, I like casement windows and Andersen's seem to give me the least trouble.

You get what you pay for, windows are not something I cheap out on.
 

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I have the hd Anderson’s but with wood interiors. Ten years and no problems. Never used the all vinyl ones.


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I have the same windows in my house. After about 15 years, they still work great.
 

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We can all discuss the various types of windows etc, but getting replacement parts for 19 yr old windows made me very satisfied..


My brother ordered replacement sashes for the Andersen windows in his house that was built in 1955. The only difference was the new ones are double insulated, but they fit exactly - there were no issues at all installing them.
 

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We have the 400 series. Have been very good.

Like the poster above getting parts have been easy, right from anderson. We needed a screen, because it got ripped by a falling branch. Took it to the hardware store that does this work, and it was we have a hard time with them. The spline, the sash connectors, etc.

Called anderson and had one in a few days. I think even with shipping it was about the same as they could have repaired the old one.

I would take my measurements and go to a smaller lumberyard type place. No big box store. They sell the windows and know what to ask, so you get the right window.

You made the comment about window replacement googling. I would get to a lumber yard that knows windows. The person at the box store is just following an order sheet.
 

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Several months ago I had a brief discussion with a contractor who installs door and windows. His comment on Anderson was that they are average windows. They are ok But not the best. He said they invest a lot in to marketing to keep up their image. I remember him saying they are a 5 out of 10. He said he like Pella and some other brand I just can't recall. I know this is second hand info but I thought i would share it and let everyone weigh it.
 

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I have midline andersons in my own house built in 2001. Two have rotten sashes so far. As in post number 2, Sunrise vinyl windows were highly rated and were way better than Anderson and in my opion better built than Marvin and pella although pella had slightly classier hardware.

Sunrise was sold through my local glass shop and they are custom made to order Windows. There are no stock sizes. They were also no any more expensive than the stock size big box Windows but had quite a few upgrades.
 
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I think we are all on the same page, but the name brand window is "ANDERSEN".

Several of the posters above said "ANDERSON".

I know in the bad-old-days there were some disreputable installers actually selling a knock-off spelled "ANDERSON"...without telling people they were not getting the name brand.

Phil
 

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I will not buy Pella windows.

Purchased my house new in August of 2005. Noticed in fall of 2014 that one of windows looked like like rotting from inside out. Looked on Pella's site, warranty was for 10 years...figured I had time.

In February 2015 I call Pella. They send rep out and inspect all my windows. Pella rep lets me know my Pella Proline Casement windows could be defective...said that 80% of the windows in my house need to be replaced.

Of course, Pella had never reached out to me via US mail, e-mail, etc., letting me know my windows may be defective. So I put in a warranty claim with Pella.

They reply saying my windows are not under the 10 year warranty. WTF(?).

I tell them my house was purchased in August 2005...

They point to fine print on warranty saying warranty is from when my contractor purchased windows...not when I purchased house. I missed the 10 year warranty cut off by a month(!).

I complain, they offer no relief.

I complain more, still no relief.

I write letters, send pictures with proof windows were rotting in fall of 2014, and Pella offers 40% discount (still $10k out of my pocket).

Not cool.

My wife's Ex husband finds out we are struggling with Pella. (He's great guy, wonderful parent, very good to get along with). He works for developer that uses Pella excessively for all their projects. He's pissed they are jerking us around. Asks for our information.

Ex hubby calls Pella and tells them, "you better make this right, or I'm never using Pella windows again."

Day later local Pella calls me offering a much better deal than $10k. We end up getting windows for free and paying for install.

And actually we are selling that house end of this month. Yes, I'm sure the "new Pella steel clad windows" did help sell the property...

But I will never use Pella again. And the kicker is this...My dad is a carpenter, and put Pella windows in his house in 1970. Those windows are still in his house, and look fantastic.

** rant over **
 

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I am a window dealer. Our main window line is Andersen. We do not display the 70 series as they are not that great of a window. Good enough for a garage, maybe. We also sell Sunrise, they are a very nice vinyl window.

The price you saw at Home Depot will go up by a factor of 2 or 3 times if they have to order it.

To give you an idea my pricing on a Sunrise at 24x36 would be $235.

Not trying to sell you anything because I am in Ohio, just giving information.
 

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I used the 400 series - purchased thru lumberyard. Vinyl outside, wood inside, double pane. Two years in I'm happy with them. Much more time to go of course, but I would use them in my house as well.
 

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When I built my house in 2001, I had Andersen windows installed. I haven't had a single problem with any window in the house, so I am a big fan of Andersen windows. I think
decent quality windows, from any of the higher quality window companies, would be a satisfactory window for your needs.
 
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I will not buy Pella windows.

Purchased my house new in August of 2005. Noticed in fall of 2014 that one of windows looked like like rotting from inside out. Looked on Pella's site, warranty was for 10 years...figured I had time.

In February 2015 I call Pella. They send rep out and inspect all my windows. Pella rep lets me know my Pella Proline Casement windows could be defective...said that 80% of the windows in my house need to be replaced.

Of course, Pella had never reached out to me via US mail, e-mail, etc., letting me know my windows may be defective. So I put in a warranty claim with Pella.

They reply saying my windows are not under the 10 year warranty. WTF(?).

I tell them my house was purchased in August 2005...

They point to fine print on warranty saying warranty is from when my contractor purchased windows...not when I purchased house. I missed the 10 year warranty cut off by a month(!).

I complain, they offer no relief.

I complain more, still no relief.

I write letters, send pictures with proof windows were rotting in fall of 2014, and Pella offers 40% discount (still $10k out of my pocket).

Not cool.

My wife's Ex husband finds out we are struggling with Pella. (He's great guy, wonderful parent, very good to get along with). He works for developer that uses Pella excessively for all their projects. He's pissed they are jerking us around. Asks for our information.

Ex hubby calls Pella and tells them, "you better make this right, or I'm never using Pella windows again."

Day later local Pella calls me offering a much better deal than $10k. We end up getting windows for free and paying for install.

And actually we are selling that house end of this month. Yes, I'm sure the "new Pella steel clad windows" did help sell the property...

But I will never use Pella again. And the kicker is this...My dad is a carpenter, and put Pella windows in his house in 1970. Those windows are still in his house, and look fantastic.

** rant over **

Vinyl doesn't rot, so these are not the OP's windows. But you are mad they wouldn't pay for new windows after the warranty was over?

Windows from 1970 may look fantastic, but they're horribly inefficient and probably should have been replaced long ago.

Did you notice the ProLine wood window rot was subject of a class action lawsuit by the way? While you probably won't get anything for the windows, you might get something back towards the installation.

http://www.pellawindowsettlement.com/media/1300233/v5_pek_claimweb_032218_final.pdf
 

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All window companies make multiple "product lines" from cheap to very expensive. BUYER BEWARE. Know what you are getting. My sister had a custom home built about 5 years ago. Many of the thermal pane windows have "leaked" !

Most window companies also make "replacement" windows that are made to order. We have Renewal by Anderson. Very nice, very heavy, very expensive !
 

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I think we are all on the same page, but the name brand window is "ANDERSEN".

Several of the posters above said "ANDERSON".

I know in the bad-old-days there were some disreputable installers actually selling a knock-off spelled "ANDERSON"...without telling people they were not getting the name brand.

Phil

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The Andersen 400 series is a decent midlevel window .. when you bought an Andersen window years ago (when they only made one) .. it was the 400. That said Pella aways made a better window IMO ... what they call the architect series today is the Pella window when they only made one.

At my beach house I went with the 400 series casements -- because they are vinyl clad -- sash is fully clad and you can leave it open. Pella windows are nicer looking -- especially the double hung (over the 400) ..... but, Pella concentrated on aluminum cladding outside w/ wood interiors .. not as practical at the beach. I did quite a few projects with Pella windows and doors and was very happy and they hold up ....

Marvin excelled when you wanted true wood windows -- any size .. Marvin will make anything you want. I actually had some rot issues with Marvin on one project .. the frames rotted ... they did replace.

Pella makes the nicest doors (of the three)

I'm not a fan of the all Vinyl products .. but, they dominate the "replacement" market.
 
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Re: Andersen Windows? LOL they ****! The low E windows I put in just ****! Had two fog up already. Had the local rep out said they are aware of this problem. Just stinks to have this happen after one year....
 

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I installed 5 400 series double hung windows. 8 years and they are great. Best windows i have had in a house. 70 series are cheap junk. Spend the money on the 400's.
 

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I am sure times change. 50 years ago they were good enough to last 50 years. Mine were 40 years old and going strong when my wife took them out.
 

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I would buy any window other than Anderson or any other brand by the same owners just due to my bias and hatred for them. Not due to the quality of windows. If your in the pacific northwest do not use polar Bear for installation.

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My dad had his old house done with Anderson windows, he loved them! He since sold the house, but they were very nice windows.
 

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I've used the Tilt Wash 400 series with prefinished interiors, in 5 different houses over the last 20 years. No issues, all working fine and looking good, including the screens.

Local busy lumberyards will group customer orders together to get truckload pricing for you.

Ditto. I have used them in two houses over the last 20 years and the performance has been great.

Jay
 

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I worked with a family member for several years installing windows and doors, he's been in the business for over 40 years.

Andersen 100's are the lowest I would go, I put them in another family members home due to the cost and they are very nice for the money, they would be excellent for a garage.

I just built a house and used 400's, my parent's have 400's, as does my family who installs them for a living. After working for over 40 years, he exclusively uses Andersen and Marvin, Pella is an ok-window/door, but for the price, Andersen's are often cheaper (his cost, anyway), and Andersen is better quality.

I also second going to an actual lumber yard, order through them, don't go through HD.
 

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Anderson is a good window if you buy them directly from Anderson or a fully authorized independent dealer/installer. The ones at Big Box stores are built to the companies specs and lack a LOT of the technology and quality of the direct sale units.
Anderson is also one of the more pricey manufacturers.

Pellas are very good, too.

Tommy
 
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I have Pella Prolines. They're a contractor grade window. Just ok. My opinion and experience, they are not even comparible to Anderson!. Renewal may be a good product, but way over priced!

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IMO the window companies have done a poor job of differentiating the various lines. Even where they have created separate names (renewal and proline) the parent company becomes the owner of all the bad reviews directed towards the least expensive line. It's amazing the number of reviews coming out of the Lowes and HD product lines.

The big window companies sell so many lines -- even consumers with some knowledge of windows have difficulties.
 

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Firebrick43, I would bet a rotted window was probably due to an installation issue. I built 18 years ago spent extra money on insulation and Anderson doors and windows, it is a very quiet efficient house. All of the windows are fine.
 
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