Another purchase that I didn't need to make

[The Cobbler]

Stopped by Habitat on way home today . didn't see anything that caught my eyes . not that I need anything anyway LOL
As I was sort of starting on my way out , they were bringing out an air compressor, a Devilbiss Oiless noise maker with a 25 gal vertical tank . it sort of caught my eye as it looked very clean . Now I will say it again, I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER COMPRESSOR . there. I have admitted I have a problem .
the rest of the back story , apparently it was put out for sale & someone knocked it over , and broke off the pressure release valve from the pressure switch & the ****** that goes into the tank. They said, oh, it needs a new manifold but other than that its in good condition . we are selling it as is . ( all it needs is a new pressure switch & ****** into the tank .( both pieces are in stock @ the Cobblers )
Well, not that I want or need an oiless noismaker ( I had one and that was enough) I have a horizontal Campbell Hausfield that I was thinking about converting to vertical , so for $50 I bought it. I wasn't able to pick it up today , hopefully tomorrow I can. so no pictures as yet .

 

[Beerhippie]

Stopped by Habitat on way home today . didn't see anything that caught my eyes . not that I need anything anyway LOL
As I was sort of starting on my way out , they were bringing out an air compressor, a Devilbiss Oiless noise maker with a 25 gal vertical tank . it sort of caught my eye as it looked very clean . Now I will say it again, I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER COMPRESSOR . there. I have admitted I have a problem .
the rest of the back story , apparently it was put out for sale & someone knocked it over , and broke off the pressure release valve from the pressure switch & the ****** that goes into the tank. They said, oh, it needs a new manifold but other than that its in good condition . we are selling it as is . ( all it needs is a new pressure switch & ****** into the tank .( both pieces are in stock @ the Cobblers )
Well, not that I want or need an oiless noismaker ( I had one and that was enough) I have a horizontal Campbell Hausfield that I was thinking about converting to vertical , so for $50 I bought it. I wasn't able to pick it up today , hopefully tomorrow I can. so no pictures as yet .

Good price for a tank!

Consider using both tanks--maybe wall-mount the horizontal as it doesn't need to be horizontal (use a T and a large water trap with a drain on the outlet on the bottom of the tank)--to take some of the pressure (PI) off the compressor. Run the tanks in parallel with the regulator after the two tanks.

I also use extra tanks as "surge tanks" near equipment that needs intermittent bursts of large volumes of air for a short time. I run the main lines at full output pressure--125 in my case--and use POU regulators. This works extremely well. Before I came up with this strategy, some of our equipment in the brewer production line would drop the pressure to the point that other equipment shut down.

 

[dchawk81]

I probably would have jumped on it too for that price.

 

[cherrybomb]

I'm usually been told,you should of been here yesterday!

 

[PCustoms]

Hoarding is a pretty serious thing...

 

[dchawk81]

Hoarding is a pretty serious thing...

Serious as a fart attack.

 

[The Cobbler]

I didn't really get before pictures but the pressure relief valve was broken on , as well as the ****** from the tank to the pressure switch.
Pulled the broken ****** out of the bung with a pipe ****** extractor . replaced the ****** with one on hand ,



cut the broken threads off of the pressure switch and tapped the threads deeper so a 1/4 npt would thread back in.



reassembled it all , sans the PRV . Not sure where I laid it down. but I do have others in my hoard if needed. so basically this was a zero dollar repair.
not sure what I will do with this, I may give it to a friend . he has a gas one but could use an electric one

 

[The Cobbler]

having trouble with pictures

 

[LopezBart]

One of the issues w/ schedule 40 ******* is that they're weak due to the depth of the threads. This doesn't matter in this application (in fact, it might be seen as having acted as a mechanical fuse ), but in places where it does - propane tanks, steam boilers, etc - using schedule 80 ******* can prevent much unwanted excitement. For example, small (less than 40' LOA) steamboats use schedule 80 ******* between the boiler and the first shutoff valve, regardless of boiler working pressure. Similarly, propane fire effects at Burning Man (poofers, typically) are required to use schedule 80 ******* to forestall breakage, esp. on vehicles:

 

[niget2002]

Hoarding is a pretty serious thing...

It's really not that bad once you get used to it.

 

[niget2002]

I probably would have bought that Compressor too.

I think I'm up to 7 now. Only 2 get regular use. The rest are backups of the backups of the backups.

One has a hole in the tank. I keep it around for nostalgia. It was something my grandfather hacked together from random parts and has a massive 'steam punk' look to it.

 

[WWheeler]

I didn't really get before pictures but the pressure relief valve was broken on , as well as the ****** from the tank to the pressure switch.
Pulled the broken ****** out of the bung with a pipe ****** extractor . replaced the ****** with one on hand ,

What kind of pipe ****** extractor did you use? I don't have one but need one.

I just recently picked up a 60 gal kobalt compressor that literally fell off the truck. I watched them drop it while trying to load it into the back of a pickup. I was heading out and stopped to watch what looked like someone's first time ever using a forklift. 10 minutes later after a bit of haggling with the manager who seemed none too happy with what happened it was mine for $300. He wasn't happy because it was already a closeout item and they couldn't get the guy who was buying it another like it, and he didn't want it any more. I jumped on that gamble because apart from a bunch of scratches the only thing that seems damaged is the ******. I haven't yet had a chance to confirm it works though.

 

[Beerhippie]

What kind of pipe ****** extractor did you use? I don't have one but need one.

I just recently picked up a 60 gal kobalt compressor that literally fell off the truck. I watched them drop it while trying to load it into the back of a pickup. I was heading out and stopped to watch what looked like someone's first time ever using a forklift. 10 minutes later after a bit of haggling with the manager who seemed none too happy with what happened it was mine for $300. He wasn't happy because it was already a closeout item and they couldn't get the guy who was buying it another like it, and he didn't want it any more. I jumped on that gamble because apart from a bunch of scratches the only thing that seems damaged is the ******. I haven't yet had a chance to confirm it works though.

The largest EZ-Out that will possibly fit in the broken ****** is what I use. I prefer the straight-fluted, but you're getting into the hard-to-break sizes at 1/2".

Use some heat before trying to back it out. The sealants that are used soften up nicely a little above the boiling point of water. A good heat gun will work fine.

 

[WWheeler]

The largest EZ-Out that will possibly fit in the broken ****** is what I use. I prefer the straight-fluted, but you're getting into the hard-to-break sizes at 1/2".

Use some heat before trying to back it out. The sealants that are used soften up nicely a little above the boiling point of water. A good heat gun will work fine.

I have several sets of EZ outs, an Irwin spiral type set and a set of Mayhew wedge type and none of them have a size that wants to work for that diameter of broke off pipe. Closest ones I have are too small to bite or too big to fit. When I brought it home I figured I'd have it out in a few minutes but it put up a good fight, like it's glued in. I dug a little groove with a small diamond file to give me something to tap at with a punch to try to spin it out and that sure aint working either.

I looked up a set of pipe ****** extractors and see a couple different styles, though most look to be for larger pipe than what I'm dealing with. Unless someone has experience using something better I see there's a Husky set I might pick up at HD later today when I go that way.

A 1/4" pipe ****** is what I picked up to replace it.

 

[Beerhippie]

I have several sets of EZ outs, an Irwin spiral type set and a set of Mayhew wedge type and none of them have a size that wants to work for that diameter of broke off pipe. Closest ones I have are too small to bite or too big to fit. When I brought it home I figured I'd have it out in a few minutes but it put up a good fight, like it's glued in. I dug a little groove with a small diamond file to give me something to tap at with a punch to try to spin it out and that sure aint working either.

I looked up a set of pipe ****** extractors and see a couple different styles, though most look to be for larger pipe than what I'm dealing with. Unless someone has experience using something better I see there's a Husky set I might pick up at HD later today when I go that way.

A 1/4" pipe ****** is what I picked up to replace it.

The spiral-flute is labeled M No.5. The straight-flute, I can find no markings upon it. Both are 0.44" across the shaft. 1/4" NPT ****** for reference.

 

[The Cobbler]

What kind of pipe ****** extractor did you use? I don't have one but need one

I had to hammer the bit into the broken ******, quite hard actually. I ended up using a small sledge hammer to drive it it . then it took quite a bit of force to get it moving. I did use heat too around the bung to try to expand it a wee bit. your break looks just like mine did.
edit. I realized after the fact that the ****** was schedule 80 pipe , thus the force needed to get the extractor fitted . had I realized i would have drilled the ID of the pipe .

 

[The Cobbler]

I just recently picked up a 60 gal kobalt compressor that literally fell off the truck

sounds like a good find . a bit of patience , some heat and good luck is needed .
I was going to replace the switch on mine due to the brokem port, but the drive in me to be cheap lead me to re working the original and re tapping the threads . I originally was only concerned in the tank, but since it works good I may re thing that .

 

[The Cobbler]

had to hammer the bit into the broken ******, quite hard actually. I ended up using a small sledge hammer to drive it it

I realized today that the ****** is schedule 80 pipe, that's why the extractor was hard getting started .
I also discovered that the piston ring & cylinder is badly worn & wont build over about 50 PSI . so now I guess I'm looking at repurposing the tank... although aftermarket rings & cylinders are available for not a lot of money .

 

[bluedog225]

Your purchase helped bring a family hope.

 

[The Cobbler]

Your purchase helped bring a family hope.

absolutely . I originally was buying it for the tank, and then I was reconsidering to pass it along to a friend. I may still do that if I decide to rebuild the pump. right now I'm unsure of the direction I will take .

 

[Beerhippie]

I realized today that the ****** is schedule 80 pipe, that's why the extractor was hard getting started .
I also discovered that the piston ring & cylinder is badly worn & wont build over about 50 PSI . so now I guess I'm looking at repurposing the tank... although aftermarket rings & cylinders are available for not a lot of money .

That's why we used to refer to the oil-less compressors as "airless" compressors. The bottom of the piston is open to the environment, so dust and dirt and **** gets sucked up into the bottom of the cylinder with every stroke. Maybe fine in a shop, but death to the comp on a jobsite.

 

[The Cobbler]

dust and dirt and **** gets sucked up into the bottom of the cylinder

underneath the shroud and inside the valve plates & head was mass amounts of drywall dust

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

I had to hammer the bit into the broken ******, quite hard actually. I ended up using a small sledge hammer to drive it it . then it took quite a bit of force to get it moving. I did use heat too around the bung to try to expand it a wee bit. your break looks just like mine did.

Wish I had a set like that when doing my dip tube on my water heater. Ended up using a hack saw blade inside and cut the damaged ****** end out. Then had to chase it to clean up the thread to reinstall dip tube.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

Oh ya nice buy/rescue on the compressor.

 

[NHtoolguy]

Wish I had a set like that when doing my dip tube on my water heater. Ended up using a hack saw blade inside and cut the damaged ****** end out. Then had to chase it to clean up the thread to reinstall dip tube.

I have had good success with an internal pipe wrench for broken *******. They have an eccentric cam that grabs tighter as more torque is applied. And, they don't shave material like an extractor tends to do.

 

[The Cobbler]

Ended up ordering a ring & cylinder for it. it was like $15 USD . It's going to get refurbished & passed along

 

[The Cobbler]

Well, unfortunately after I put the ring & cylinder into it I found another issue.
The pump works great with the rebuild, but I discovered a pin hole leak in the bottom bung area , thru the weld a small pinhole . I suspect it's been that way since manufacture and I didn't see it when I tested it before . I cannot consciously pass it along knowing that . oh well, luckily I don't have a lot of money into it.
probably will try to sell the pump & motor locally . anyone want a tank for a smoker or grill?

 

[dchawk81]

Well, unfortunately after I put the ring & cylinder into it I found another issue.
The pump works great with the rebuild, but I discovered a pin hole leak in the bottom bung area , thru the weld a small pinhole . I suspect it's been that way since manufacture and I didn't see it when I tested it before . I cannot consciously pass it along knowing that . oh well, luckily I don't have a lot of money into it.
probably will try to sell the pump & motor locally . anyone want a tank for a smoker or grill?

That *****.