Anti-seize.

[bluedog225]

Is there a chart that specifies different anti seize for different metal combinations? Similar to the chart that lists the chemical resistance of various types of glove material. Anti-seize for stainless-aluminum; copper-stainless; aluminum-copper, zinc coated-copper, etc.

I see permatex makes a variety but they don’t seem geared to different metal combinations. Or is it all the same magic.

seems a little haphazard.

Thanks

 

[goldtang]

bit of a read, but may help.

Anti-Seize Compounds

LOCTITE® anti-seize lubricants deliver superior performance across a wide range of applications and materials.

www.henkel-adhesives.com

https://www.mscdirect.com/global/media/pdf/search/loctite/loctite-anti-seize.pdf

 

[bluedog225]

bit of a read, but may help.

Anti-Seize Compounds

LOCTITE® anti-seize lubricants deliver superior performance across a wide range of applications and materials.

www.henkel-adhesives.com

https://www.mscdirect.com/global/media/pdf/search/loctite/loctite-anti-seize.pdf

Thanks. That’s helpful. This is the kind of thing I was wondering/worrying about. Seems like the chemistry for different metal combinations would be entirely different.

 

[Steve_P]

I've used the nickel type for decades as it has the highest temp rating. I worked at an auto glass factory, and we used the same stuff on all of the fasteners, which were stainless steel and were used in 1100F ovens. For sure it's not going to work 100% of the time, but it's the best you're going to do.

 

[four.cycle]

I believe I still have an unopened can of lead-based anti-seize out in the garage.

 

[goldtang]

Thanks. That’s helpful. This is the kind of thing I was wondering/worrying about. Seems like the chemistry for different metal combinations would be entirely different.

Can you tell us what you are fastening

if you are doing dissimilar metals have a look at Tef-Gel or Duralac

 

[goldtang]

I believe I still have an unopened can of lead-based anti-seize out in the garage.

I have about half a tin in the garage , hate to guess how old it is

 

[bluedog225]

I’ve got some aluminum and stainless stuff right now. May also tap some copper bars for stainless. But it was more of a general resource question about whether there was a table or chart that I could keep handy.

 

[BrianJ]

THIS is what I use. Especially due to the high temp rating.

 

[Bondo]

I’ve got some aluminum and stainless stuff right now. May also tap some copper bars for stainless. But it was more of a general resource question about whether there was a table or chart that I could keep handy.

Ayuh,...... I used to use never- seize on everything,
n more times than not, it came apart tough, with little to no sign of the never-seize on the parts,.....
Over my many years if posting over at iboats.com, I became close friends with DonS, the guru of I/O repairs, who unfortunately passed some years ago,....
Anyways, over those years DonS called never-seize, Always seized,...
DonS lived in Alaska, working on I/Os that literally lived in saltwater,....
After all the brow beatings, 'n a few phone calls, he convinced me to not use never-seize, 'n try his "Go to" cure for seized nuts, 'n bolts, which also stops ssteel from galling,...

'n that is Quicksilver Perfect Seal,......
Which is exactly the same as Form-a-gasket non-hardening liquid #3,.....

Since then, I put #3 on every bolt/ nut I put together,.... Never had a seized/ rusted/ galled nut or bolt since,....
U-bolts, lug nuts, motor parts, I/O parts, Everything,.....

 

[CJM8515]

i always used the nickel based one, never ever had an issue. i wont put it on engine bolts or lug nuts/studs tho b/c it changes torque value and i rather not have those items come apart lol

 

[jubilee]

Tip for for silver anti seize, Teflon pipe dope, and etc.
To thin dried up containers, add virgin olive oil.
Figured it out 40+ years ago by reading MSDS sheets.
Works and won’t dry up.

 

[PCustoms]

Tip for for silver anti seize, Teflon pipe dope, and etc.
To thin dried up containers, add virgin olive oil.
Figured it out 40+ years ago by reading MSDS sheets.
Works and won’t dry up.

I'll bite.

What in the SDS makes you think these have an olive oil base?

 

[RoninB4]

-Just an FYI for some. If you're out of anti-seize and you need something, Milk-Of-Magnesia can be an ersatz substitute. Cheap and readily available at about any convenience store. It imparts a thin film of magnesium to act as an anti-seize. It doesn't stand up to hot temperatures as well either but it does work. We used it on airplanes in the Air Force back in the day and I've used it on industrial applications.

 

[Jeepster04]

Ayuh,...... I used to use never- seize on everything,
n more times than not, it came apart tough, with little to no sign of the never-seize on the parts,.....
Over my many years if posting over at iboats.com, I became close friends with DonS, the guru of I/O repairs, who unfortunately passed some years ago,....
Anyways, over those years DonS called never-seize, Always seized,...
DonS lived in Alaska, working on I/Os that literally lived in saltwater,....
After all the brow beatings, 'n a few phone calls, he convinced me to not use never-seize, 'n try his "Go to" cure for seized nuts, 'n bolts, which also stops ssteel from galling,...

'n that is Quicksilver Perfect Seal,......
Which is exactly the same as Form-a-gasket non-hardening liquid #3,.....

Since then, I put #3 on every bolt/ nut I put together,.... Never had a seized/ rusted/ galled nut or bolt since,....
U-bolts, lug nuts, motor parts, I/O parts, Everything,.....

Dang, I sure hate to hear that. I use to frequent the iboats forum, maybe 15-16 years ago, and remember reading his posts. Dude sure knew his stuff.

Is this what you're talking about? The only issue I see is the low temp rating.

Permatex® Aviation Form-A-Gasket® No. 3 Sealant Liquid, 16 OZ | Permatex®

www.permatex.com

Ive been using loctite marine antisieze for awhile, but Im no where near saltwater. Its metal free and good to 2400F. I bought a 5lb can of it, so I think Im set for life.

LOCTITE® LB 8023

Marine grade, metal-free anti-seize

next.henkel-adhesives.com

 

[zimman]

If you're not careful using Anti Seize six months from now it will show up in the crack of your ***. LMAO
Zim
Edit. We used to put a small dab on the trigger of our boss's impact gun. He'd have anti seize all over him in minutes. He was pissed.

 

[bluedog225]

Dang, I sure hate to hear that. I use to frequent the iboats forum, maybe 15-16 years ago, and remember reading his posts. Dude sure knew his stuff.

Is this what you're talking about? The only issue I see is the low temp rating.

Permatex® Aviation Form-A-Gasket® No. 3 Sealant Liquid, 16 OZ | Permatex®

www.permatex.com

Ive been using loctite marine antisieze for awhile, but Im no where near saltwater. Its metal free and good to 2400F. I bought a 5lb can of it, so I think Im set for life.

LOCTITE® LB 8023

Marine grade, metal-free anti-seize

next.henkel-adhesives.com

I think graphite is not great on my stainless/aluminum applications.

 

[Bondo]

Dang, I sure hate to hear that. I use to frequent the iboats forum, maybe 15-16 years ago, and remember reading his posts. Dude sure knew his stuff.

Is this what you're talking about? The only issue I see is the low temp rating.

Permatex® Aviation Form-A-Gasket® No. 3 Sealant Liquid, 16 OZ | Permatex®

www.permatex.com

Ive been using loctite marine antisieze for awhile, but Im no where near saltwater. Its metal free and good to 2400F. I bought a 5lb can of it, so I think Im set for life.

LOCTITE® LB 8023

Marine grade, metal-free anti-seize

next.henkel-adhesives.com

Ayuh,.... That's the stuff,.... As DonS explained it, due to the tenacity of the stuff, air can get 'tween the bits, so corrosion can't happed,....

 

[four.cycle]

Is this what you're talking about?

Exactly.
NON hardening.
Stays gooey forever.

Do NOT get this stuff on your good shirt.