So what am I likely up against here?Be warned, you are most likely heading into a job that will be more then just installing a new wax ring and screwing toilet back down.
Unfinished basement belowUnfinished space below the toilet? Somebody installed the flange bolts upside down.
Skip the plumber and call a realtor!So what am I likely up against here?
Yup here we go. That doesn’t look like a toilet flange to me. I’d be ripping out that cast iron and replacing it with pvc. You can cut it with a sawzall. Use a rubber boot splice. But don’t bury it somewhere.
Depending on the era the house was built, that might be lead.Yup here we go. That doesn’t look like a toilet flange to me. I’d be ripping out that cast iron and replacing it with pvc. You can cut it with a sawzall. Use a rubber boot splice. But don’t bury it somewhere.
Looks more like cast iron.Depending on the era the house was built, that might be lead.
Not looking to replace the floor at this point in time. Maybe later.Looks more like cast iron.
The O.P. might have to choose now to replace the flooring too after all of that exploratory surgery
Do yourself a favor and completely uninstall that toilet, and inspect the flange. It might be cast iron which is why they did that.Not looking to replace the floor at this point in time. Maybe later.
Yes but use real hardware not tee bolts and real heavy duty washers. Make sure you have rubber under them. If the toilet rocks at all when you’re done, it will leak again.So in theory I could just lift the toilet out, clean up the wax ring area, install new wax ring and get new bolts to thread into where these were, right? Or am I missing something?
New flange that fits inside the cast iron pipe?So what am I likely up against here?
I do like this idea, but I need to get this done today without complications. I am tempted to replace the ring and bolts and put it back the way it was. A previous owner of the house did this, 15 or more years ago (I bought it 15 years ago) and it just now started to leak. I saw water today for the 1st time.Ok, so here is what I would do. I would remove the Sioux Chief extender which was put in to raise the "flange" to the level of the tile. It looks to be screwed in to the subfloor judging by the screws you see from underneath.
It looks like someone just used a non-flange cast iron pipe. This isn't the end of the world but you need a replacement flange.
I used this in my basement where the cast iron flange was quite rotted and instead of cutting the concrete and replacing the cast iron flange and pipe I used this Oatey product. Actually it is the older version, this is the newer one.
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Essentially you remove that extender then install this until it is solid in place. Then screw it down into the subfloor. You might need to trim around the pipe to make sure the flange is flush with the tile. A little proud or recessed isn't a problem if you use an adjustable gasket.
Don't reinstall the toilet the way it was. It was done wrong and that Sioux Chief extender is NOT for keeping the toilet steady. It is just for extending an existing flange which I can't really tell if there is one or not.
You need to take a look underneath.Unfinished basement below
I get that it is not perfect but it held up for more than 15 years. I am tempted to give a try at putting ot back the way it was. If I were going to down the bathroom long term for a remodel, I would re-engineer it, hire professionals etc. but not at this time.That there is some Bubba work done by some weekend warrior or unlicensed contractor type. As others have said, fix it correctly or there will be other problems.
This is a good project to learn from OP…really not complicated nor hard…just take your time. Great excuse to buy many hundreds of dollars worth of tools too.![]()
So it shouldn't take that much longer to do it right. That flange should be available locally. I think I got mine at Home Depot. It is very easy to do. You are going to remove that spacer anyway, might as well just insert the new Oatey flange and it will be done correctly.I do like this idea, but I need to get this done today without complications. I am tempted to replace the ring and bolts and put it back the way it was. A previous owner of the house did this, 15 or more years ago (I bought it 15 years ago) and it just now started to leak. I saw water today for the 1st time.
If I had more time to have the bathroom down or if there was some other problem, I would likely go the route you describe.