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firebox40dash5

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They're not poorly made, but I think they're the worst value in Snap On's lineup. For what you'll probably pay off the truck, you could wait and buy a new KRL722 for about the same, if not less, on sale. Or look for a used KRL7023 or 7003 and pay about the same. Either way, you'll have a better box, and a bigger box with the 7000 (or even 1000) series, and they'll hold their value better. I don't see many used Classics for sale around here, but when I do, they seem to have a hard time selling for a decent price... the price just ends up too close to a Masters box IMO.

OTOH at least that one is now available with the 2 wide top drawers. If you wanted to duplicate the 24" deep triple bank in KRL, you'd have to buy a 722 and a side cab.

My bottom line would be just under $3k, and only if I really needed all those drawers now.
 

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If you are in automotive, a classic 96 will do fine. If you are a heavy truck or equipment mechanic, I would highly recommend getting a masters series as they have a heavy duty drawer slide vs. a medium duty slide that the classic boxes have.
 

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I've had two KRA's...a very used 5311 and a brand new 2418...i like both...but they are definitely "cheaper" feeling than the master or epiq's...i got my new box from the rockin roll cab promo guy and it had a couple dents onto it so they took off 2550...i wound up with the box, a bedlinered top, and like 1200 worth of tools for 5800 or so I think it was...
 

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I've had two KRA's...a very used 5311 and a brand new 2418...i like both...but they are definitely "cheaper" feeling than the master or epiq's...i got my new box from the rockin roll cab promo guy and it had a couple dents onto it so they took off 2550...i wound up with the box, a bedlinered top, and like 1200 worth of tools for 5800 or so I think it was...

Was what?
 

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Actually I lied...my box Is the 2423...which I recommend you to get...if able to score a deal like I did
 

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$4600 for that doesn't sound like much of a deal to me... I got my 722 for $2700, I could probably get the drawer end cab for $1100 or so, that leaves me $800 for a top, with a heavier duty box and better resale. :dunno:
 

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I work in a heavy truck shop. Lots of oilfield stuff, so lots of big tools. Two guys in my shop have classic 96's and they love em. According to our dealer they used to be made cheaper but they changed something up, cant remember exactly what. One guy has had his for a few years the other for a few months. Both love em.

I prefer them actually to my Macsimizer. And if they hold up in our shop I would be they would last a lifetime in most any automotive shops.
 

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My snap on guy sells them for a little over $3,000 cash.

I like them, but a Montezuma is on my agenda for my next box.
 
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I work in a truck shop was looking at a Mac tech series but just trying to look at my options. I have a craftsman 52" 23 drawer and I'm close to running out of room they are not very deep
 

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Well that is just it the snap on guy doesn't run to my shop I half to go to another shop we have to see the snap on guy so I haven't got any prices just what was on the net.
 

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That krl is the same box but taller and a bit deeper...that said, the krl's are a bit more heavy duty than the kra's
 

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Well I was hoping to keep it around $6000 but was wanting to trade my current box

Do you have a Snap On driver? Make friends with one. Seems like they've always got a special on one, and many of them aren't listed anywhere I've seen. Hell, you might be able to talk your way into a 7023 for under 6 grand without it being on sale.

I got my 722 for ~50% off, put down a little over 1/3, no trade, and put the rest on my truck account... had it almost paid for by the time I got it.
 

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I was gonna pay cash

Jeebus man... wave some 100s and I bet you could walk off $4500 lighter with a KRL7023 on order, minus whatever you can get from the trade. Like I said, I was quouted $4700 for the 1023 on sale, and that wasn't cash price. I probably could've gotten that $300-500 lower paying up front.
 
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Is it fair to compare the classic series to the HF line up. Aside from ease of warranty both brands are similar. I need to upgrade and was thinking a 96. After I saw one in person I wasn't as impressed as I should be for the price. I have not seen a HF 72 in person, but judging from reviews the box is well built. I would love an epiq, but let's be realistic.

Who has the better 72" box....HF or Snap On? Why?
 

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Sorry, but as good as the hf boxes are, they ain't as good as any of the big 3's current offerings...for a roll cab, anyway...the 200 dollar hf cart is as good as the 700 dollar blue point one, though...
 

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Is it fair to compare the classic series to the HF line up. Aside from ease of warranty both brands are similar. I need to upgrade and was thinking a 96. After I saw one in person I wasn't as impressed as I should be for the price. I have not seen a HF 72 in person, but judging from reviews the box is well built. I would love an epiq, but let's be realistic.

Who has the better 72" box....HF or Snap On? Why?

I'll agree that the HF boxes aren't up to the same quality as anything Snap On, unless the Heritage stuff is total, complete (comparatively, anyway) ****. However, I stand by my opinion that the Classic and Heritage series are the worst value they offer, both at list price and at a realistic "deal" new price. Think of it like you're buying 2 different things... a toolbox, and a name. The name seems to cost proportionally more compared to the toolbox the lower you go in the lineup. I'd say there's a definite quality difference there, but not a $2000 one, and definitely not a $3000-4000 one.

That said, a Classic series to a HF 72" is comparing apples to donuts. One's made in the US, and is a 24" deep box, so you should be getting a valuable 2"+ in drawer depth with the Snappy. Depending on your preference, the 72" triple bank vs. double bank could be a pro or con, but the HF only has the single wide drawer. But, if you make a more fair comparison like an Extreme/Viper/Montezuma, the price and quality gap both narrow a lot.

Personally, I think if you go used or finagle a deal, a Masters series is a damn good value in high-quality storage. KRAs are too expensive for what they are, and Epiqs don't add enough IMO for the price they command... although I'll admit I'm not too knowledgeable on what a "good deal" on one is since they were never really in my price range. As my boss likes to put it, "I don't care if it's a $40,000 _______ for $4,000, it doesn't matter if you don't even have $40." :lol: On that same note, if I were looking to only spend $1,000 on a 72" box, I'd be looking at the HF.
 

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you can't compare kra's to krl's. one is entry level, the other professional series.

they have different gauge sheet metal, different slides and casters. hence the price difference.

I had a classic 96 for a bit. it was very flimsy. I sold it about two weeks after I originally got it.
 
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I have a classic 96 and does feel rather flimsy. But I got it for 2500, with a steel top and tools.

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You'll likely get a better deal by financing, Snap on often has rebates available for financing and you can pay it off the next day without penalty.
 

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Was $4,700 for a new KRL1023 ?

Yeah, it was like a 1-week special or something. Snap On guy just called me about it since he knew I was in the market. Not a bad deal at all, considering I could have picked my own color, but that's just bigger and more expensive than I could really swing. I've only got about 1' past my KRL722 without rearranging the shop a little, and the 30" depth wouldn't work well since my box is right across from a lift post.
 

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I'll agree that the HF boxes aren't up to the same quality as anything Snap On, unless the Heritage stuff is total, complete (comparatively, anyway) ****. However, I stand by my opinion that the Classic and Heritage series are the worst value they offer, both at list price and at a realistic "deal" new price. Think of it like you're buying 2 different things... a toolbox, and a name. The name seems to cost proportionally more compared to the toolbox the lower you go in the lineup. I'd say there's a definite quality difference there, but not a $2000 one, and definitely not a $3000-4000 one.

That said, a Classic series to a HF 72" is comparing apples to donuts. One's made in the US, and is a 24" deep box, so you should be getting a valuable 2"+ in drawer depth with the Snappy. Depending on your preference, the 72" triple bank vs. double bank could be a pro or con, but the HF only has the single wide drawer. But, if you make a more fair comparison like an Extreme/Viper/Montezuma, the price and quality gap both narrow a lot.

Personally, I think if you go used or finagle a deal, a Masters series is a damn good value in high-quality storage. KRAs are too expensive for what they are, and Epiqs don't add enough IMO for the price they command... although I'll admit I'm not too knowledgeable on what a "good deal" on one is since they were never really in my price range. As my boss likes to put it, "I don't care if it's a $40,000 _______ for $4,000, it doesn't matter if you don't even have $40." :lol: On that same note, if I were looking to only spend $1,000 on a 72" box, I'd be looking at the HF.

COO is important, but the main difference is the 2" drawer depth. I am currently using a HF 44" and a HF 56". The 56" is the same depth as the 72". The classic is 96 is 2" deeper than my 56" and I am not sure 2" is enough to warrant the price difference. When you get into a 30" deep box you see the benefit, but it also sticks out into the bay more. I have mine on a side wall so that 30" box might be too wide for me.

Circling back to the narrower boxes brings me back to the classic 96 and HF 72". Like you said, I think for the $1000 I might be looking at the HF 72".
 

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COO is important, but the main difference is the 2" drawer depth. I am currently using a HF 44" and a HF 56". The 56" is the same depth as the 72". The classic is 96 is 2" deeper than my 56" and I am not sure 2" is enough to warrant the price difference. When you get into a 30" deep box you see the benefit, but it also sticks out into the bay more. I have mine on a side wall so that 30" box might be too wide for me.

Circling back to the narrower boxes brings me back to the classic 96 and HF 72". Like you said, I think for the $1000 I might be looking at the HF 72".

I haven't put my mitts on a HF deep box to know the difference. I had an 18x41" Waterloo before my 722, and the difference in space was frickin' incredible. My top drawer had been crammed full with sockets, now it's spacious... I couldn't even get wide enough with my phone to get a full-drawer shot for the toolbox thread. :lol: That 4" of depth alone made a much bigger difference than it sounds like, because of how much better the deeper drawer worked with my particular setup. YMMV depending on yours, but 2" can make a bigger difference than you might think.

I'm not gonna knock the HF too hard, the value definitely seems to be there, and worst case you might lose half its value reselling, which amounts to a whopping, what, $300-400? Compared to a "cheap" Snap On maybe losing you $1000-1500? That's a lot of why I waited so long to buy my box... I don't plan to upgrade for a long time, if ever, or to sell it, but I like to know that if I have to, I can dump it pretty quick without losing much of my "investment".

Personally, if I had $3k or so in cash to spend and wasn't in a rush, I'd wait around for a good deal on a used KRL722 over looking at spending it right now on a "cheaper" box. Then again, I don't place much value in being the first to own something that depreciates a lot, unless we're talking underwear or socks. Just an example, 1ststatetools had a KRL722 with a half-height locker on ebay for a while for like $3400, and I'm sure you could knock $500+ off picking it up, paying cash in person, and not going through ebay.
 

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I've got this Classic 96. It feels a little light-duty, but it's great for my use at home. While it may be "one of the worst values" if you're buying one off the truck, I bought mine used in excellent condition for $1300, so it was a pretty damn good value to me.

 

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I've been trying to figure out their storage line for a few weeks now, but I still haven't got it right.

Classic
Heritage
Master
Epiq

I don't want to hear about "value". I want the differences quantified.

How is the frame constructed?
Are boxed sections present?
How has it been welded or riveted; what process was used?
What gauge steel is used?
How many layers are in the walls?
How are the structures reinforced?
What about drawer slides?
What's the difference between a medium duty slide and a heavy duty slide?
Why can't I just buy a $2,000 box with medium slides and drop slides from a $4,000 box in there?
How is the interior finished; both the bits you can see and those you can't?

As much as they want for those things, there ought to be a cutaway model of each pictured in their catalogs and on their site.
 

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bushmechanic, all of those specifications are listed in the tool catalog. Should be online as well. Gives all the gritty details.

The level of quality for Snap-On boxes is as follows:

More economical to top dog:

Blue-Point
Heritage Series (KRA)
Classic Series (KRA)
Masters Series (KRL)
Epiq Series
 

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I've been trying to figure out their storage line for a few weeks now, but I still haven't got it right.

Classic
Heritage
Master
Epiq

I don't want to hear about "value". I want the differences quantified.

How is the frame constructed?
Are boxed sections present?
How has it been welded or riveted; what process was used?
What gauge steel is used?
How many layers are in the walls?
How are the structures reinforced?
What about drawer slides?
What's the difference between a medium duty slide and a heavy duty slide?
Why can't I just buy a $2,000 box with medium slides and drop slides from a $4,000 box in there?
How is the interior finished; both the bits you can see and those you can't?

As much as they want for those things, there ought to be a cutaway model of each pictured in their catalogs and on their site.

Talk to a driver. Asking on here will only get you opinions. No snap on branded roll cabs are riveted. My kra is welded. The slides are better than hf and the overall stability of the box is better. The drawer slides are different sizes than the krl so I highly doubt interchangability, cost would kill you on doing that anyway. The heavy duty slides are smoother and make a more even pull across the length of the drawer, the kra's have a little slop. The boxes i believe are dip painted(?) but i cannot see any bare metal anywhere on my kra.

In the end my kra will last a lifetime, but I really want a krl.... If I had never messed with a krl on the truck I would have thought my kra was the top comparing to my bosses macsimizer. But the krl's are just bigger, smoother and better looking.
 

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But the krl's are just bigger, smoother and better looking.

That's almost as good as hard data. I'll poke around again and see what I can find, but hearing that particular difference is important.

At some point, the choice between any two objects comes down to apparent quality, rather than any significant mechanical difference between the two.

I can't easily see the differences between these in person, because nobody around here owns anything like that. Since I'm nailing things down in the shop, I thought I'd set my sights on a nice storage solution.

It's a matter of want rather than need, so I mean to spend quite a bit of time comparing models. In the end, I just want a big blue box, but if I'm spending thousands anyway, I may as well consider everything.

There's plenty for me to read around here, so I'm sure I'll be kept busy for a while before making any purchases. I'll ask a friend when the truck is coming by. Maybe I can go over and have a chat.
 

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So...the classic series ain't "junk" by any means...and is still something a pro could own for 30 years and then bring it home once retired and pass it down to his son or grandson...i don't know if you could say the same on the hf boxes...

I still think that getting my 2423 for like 3200ish was a good deal...then I went and added the 800 dollar top and also put in what was left on my truck account plus more and my financed total was like 5800 or so...i know I may have still payed too much for what y'all think is a "junk" box, but I do like it...only thing I miss about my previous boss's epiq box was how tall the thing was...
 

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had a classic 96 with the top box,over 33 drawers, nice if you dont have to roll it anywhere,since they dont roll easy.. had a glass top on it and a custom cover made for it,so it kept its value through the year that i had it. got 5500 for it on trade for my krl,seen it on craigslist a year later, kid trying to get 6000 for it.

as for the box, the wheels arent the better ones as the krl or master series,but if you arent going to move it it would be a great box. that was my only drawback on it..other than that i liked the box moved the drawers around to make it user friendly..
 

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If they would just put the casters from a 722. The 96 gets hard to push. My fully loaded 1022 rolls easier then my classic 60.
 
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