Anyone used PURE METALLIC Epoxy?
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ct71rr
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Wow, that looks cool! Like the surface of the Moon or something.
The Bramptonian
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Thank you for your response. I respectfully disagree that your website provides 99% of the information including technical data. I don't think so. For instance, no technical data sheets are available. I have no problem with lack of information on your website because there are obvious limitations about how much information one can provide on websites. It is not the website but customer service that matters. Epoxy is not exactly a DIY project unless adequate customer service is available. Each situation is unique and therefore require unique solutions. You carry great products, no questions about that. Only the customer could be better.
K13
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Not sure where you were looking but I found technical data sheets for at least 5 different products as well as installation instructions, videos, msds sheets and a surface prep instruction sheet all on their website in about 3 minutes of looking.
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Testing done.
Im going to roll them out individually....
Here is "House of Smoke" Base with "Storm Cloud" Effects
House of smoke sounds like a grey color from the name but is actually more like a very deep bronze. I think its the most complex color I've seen up close, as the tiny bronze metallic flakes inside it catch the light and add another dimension to it.
Storm Cloud is the effect in this picture. I didn't do a great job drizzling it....it kinda mushed around, wich is great if your going for the "marble" effect.
Im going to roll them out individually....
Here is "House of Smoke" Base with "Storm Cloud" Effects
House of smoke sounds like a grey color from the name but is actually more like a very deep bronze. I think its the most complex color I've seen up close, as the tiny bronze metallic flakes inside it catch the light and add another dimension to it.
Storm Cloud is the effect in this picture. I didn't do a great job drizzling it....it kinda mushed around, wich is great if your going for the "marble" effect.
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ct71rr
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I think it looks cool. Kind of like gray fire.
It was a flat surface
I think the movement is based on thicker and thinner sections of application. If you have a thin section, the thicker section will move into it as it self levels.
Ill show some where the movement is both ways
super cool.
I think the movement is based on thicker and thinner sections of application. If you have a thin section, the thicker section will move into it as it self levels.
Ill show some where the movement is both ways
super cool.
it was.
we are going to wrap and prime tomorrow.
Here's another sample!
Storm Cloud Base with Obsidian Silver Effects.
This was the runner up to the combo we chose. I think its the most forgiving and timeless option. We went with something just slightly crazier.
this picture has a little "house of smoke" over spray. ignore the few very dark spots.
we are going to wrap and prime tomorrow.
Here's another sample!
Storm Cloud Base with Obsidian Silver Effects.
This was the runner up to the combo we chose. I think its the most forgiving and timeless option. We went with something just slightly crazier.
this picture has a little "house of smoke" over spray. ignore the few very dark spots.
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CreteCoater
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Update?
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Crazy day today.
Everything went oddly to plan. Started laying epoxy at 10 am and was done by 1pm. Its been between around 48 degrees today, so we are colder than we should be for this kind of install.
The guys from Iron Drive NJ - Eric / Andrew came ready for war. We got right to it.... Here's what I learned -
The install is very simple. It's time consuming, and you need to forget the beer, the instructions are simple, but you need to do it right and don't sleepwalk thru.
The harder part of this was the garage prep. having had to strip down the the concrete in my 50 year old slab was a pain. I doubt etching would have come close to the result I got with Eric coming with the monster grinder.
Also the knowledge of a pro is good for an install that is easily screwed up if you don't keep a close eye on the details.
Here is the before and after.
Everything went oddly to plan. Started laying epoxy at 10 am and was done by 1pm. Its been between around 48 degrees today, so we are colder than we should be for this kind of install.
The guys from Iron Drive NJ - Eric / Andrew came ready for war. We got right to it.... Here's what I learned -
The install is very simple. It's time consuming, and you need to forget the beer, the instructions are simple, but you need to do it right and don't sleepwalk thru.
The harder part of this was the garage prep. having had to strip down the the concrete in my 50 year old slab was a pain. I doubt etching would have come close to the result I got with Eric coming with the monster grinder.
Also the knowledge of a pro is good for an install that is easily screwed up if you don't keep a close eye on the details.
Here is the before and after.
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ct71rr
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Wow! That is pretty cool looking. Nice job!
This is a hilarious thread. Congrats PieFace on an amazing DIY floor!
The floor painting industry must be very good as it appears you guys would rather argue over which material is better, who manufactures what, who originally came up with this product, etc. than actually take someone up on an offer to fly you to a location and PAY you to do a job. Good for you, you can pick your jobs and sit back and criticize those who might actually do something different than you and still have a great result!
I would have never guessed that "floor paint snobs" exist but I guess they do.
Still LMAO over this thread, carry on!
The floor painting industry must be very good as it appears you guys would rather argue over which material is better, who manufactures what, who originally came up with this product, etc. than actually take someone up on an offer to fly you to a location and PAY you to do a job. Good for you, you can pick your jobs and sit back and criticize those who might actually do something different than you and still have a great result!
I would have never guessed that "floor paint snobs" exist but I guess they do.
Still LMAO over this thread, carry on!
thegarageguy
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Hey Pro517, sorry I didn't get back to you or blew you off. For some reason I thought I answered you but it must not of gone through. This new tapatalk will help in the future.
Installing these floors is not a 1 man job, especially 5000 sqft! Typically when I get hired to consult, it is to oversee and manage an experienced epoxy crew. So, even if you paid me a boat load of money, I would not be able to do your floor by myself nor with someone with zero experience. It would be next to impossible and a disaster.
As far as criticizing someones work, please point out where and when, because I have never done that. So I think you are way out of line to say such a thing.
Sorry you feel slighted for me not taking you up on your job offer but it is no reason to be insulting and demeaning.
P.S. PieFace's job was not DIY, he hired a Company to do it.
Good luck with your floor
Did not say you or anyone were criticizing anyone's work. Just the fighting over products, job referrals, manufacturers, etc. was making me laugh. I mean, it's floor paint, right?
I don't feel slighted at all. I have built enough over the years to know that the guy/company that truly WANTS the work and has the talent to do the job is the one to hire. I realize the scope of the work and certainly don't expect anyone to do it themselves, but I only have room in my plane for 7 passengers, so that may limit me somewhat.
Anyway, the MOST important thing is seeing these great floors and those that are enjoying them! I look forward to more great pics with these types of floors!
Carry on.
thegarageguy
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if you are serious, your job would most likely take 4 men. I can take one technician and CreteCoater can take one of his. I've seen his work and I know we can work well together.
I can locate a Company to prep your floor, get you a material list and price and we can schedule an installation date.
I can locate a Company to prep your floor, get you a material list and price and we can schedule an installation date.
CreteCoater
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I'm up for it if Pro517 seriously wants it done. As long as all the ducks are in a row before the install date I don't see a problem.
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I agree completely. I don't allow anyone to waste my time and so I definitely don't waste anyone else's time. When I get the design and color choices narrowed down, I will call you. I'm thinking this sprin/early summer. The idea would be to have everything ready as per your specs and then have you come in and do the art work! Travel and lodging is handled.
I will definitely be in touch.
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Harmony...it's priceless!
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Did you end up going the clear epoxy route? Last we talked I wasn't sure if you were going to attempt urethane on top of the effects or put a clear epoxy in the middle. As I had said, that's what originalcolorchips had recommended to me and what I planned on doing/did in the first place.
How'd all the timing work out for you? My access has been a little limited these last few days.
My floor was installed by IronDrive of New Jersey. And I was going to say that I helped. But now that I think about it, i was probably more in their way. LOL.
I did lay the effect on the floor as I'd had experience with it from the samples, so that was my hand in it.
It really came out great. Its like snow leopard garage.
I did lay the effect on the floor as I'd had experience with it from the samples, so that was my hand in it.
It really came out great. Its like snow leopard garage.
Timing worked out fine, I had extra time because it was so cold here. I had a little extra cure time over the 24 hours.
You were right about the clear epoxy. The metallics alone are not flat. The house of smoke is heavier than the storm cloud, and although just barely, you can see where the splotches of house of smoke make a depression.
The clear makes it overall flat and perfect, and the urethane works like a glossy computer screen, making the color pop.
very happy with the floor. vids coming.
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SUPER CLOSE UP!
This is a pretty good shot of the mixing of the storm cloud base with the house of smoke effect.
The silver is under the bronze splotches, you can see the ridges of silver pinched between the bronze spots. Very cool 3D effect.
We are installing 2400 watts of light now. This floor is going to EXPLODE when that light hits it.
*** we are rewiring the lights, so this pic is taken by the light of the door lifter. Not great light, makes the silver look amber. The silver is pure silver. More pics in better light coming.
This is a pretty good shot of the mixing of the storm cloud base with the house of smoke effect.
The silver is under the bronze splotches, you can see the ridges of silver pinched between the bronze spots. Very cool 3D effect.
We are installing 2400 watts of light now. This floor is going to EXPLODE when that light hits it.
*** we are rewiring the lights, so this pic is taken by the light of the door lifter. Not great light, makes the silver look amber. The silver is pure silver. More pics in better light coming.
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That looks good. Hey, post some pictures or angles that show the urethane. Did you get any micro bubbles or debris in that very last coat? Also, how long did you wait between the clear epoxy and the urethane. I gotta redo my urethane in the summer.
Also, did you decide to go with the anti-slip in the urethane or not? It doesn't look like it from the pic.
Also, did you decide to go with the anti-slip in the urethane or not? It doesn't look like it from the pic.
I did not go anti slip, I want to be able to use a mop to clean the floor.
I decided to go with runner mats for the side of the wifes car and the way to the stairs. that way I can have the clean gloss look when i want, and make sure she dosent slip at the same time.
Ill post more pics, Im trying to get the videos out now. I have about 6 coming.
I decided to go with runner mats for the side of the wifes car and the way to the stairs. that way I can have the clean gloss look when i want, and make sure she dosent slip at the same time.
Ill post more pics, Im trying to get the videos out now. I have about 6 coming.
this question has a few answers.
1. if the crack is deep, you will see it and feel it.
2. if the crack is shallow, you will see it because the metallic will move around it, but you will not feel it.
3. if you can see the crack, but cannot feel it before the epoxy, you will not see it or feel it after.
thegarageguy
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Properly repaired cracks will not show through the coating. When a coating is painted on, it's hard to hide repair work. It's like applying one Coat of wall spackle and expecting one coat of paint to hide it. When properly patched and a system is properly poured over it, you should not see or feel the crack at all.
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I thought the question was asked under the basis of a non repaired crack.
Fernando is right, If a crack is repaired correctly, you shouldnt see any sign of it after the epoxy is down.
If repaired correctly and sanded flat, the epoxy will hide it completely.
If you really want to get nuts, use ardex feather finish and do the best you can to fill the crack completely. If you find that you cannot fill the crack completely, and there is a groove remaining, I would order a little extra base epoxy from puremetallic, and pour it in.
What you will see is that the epoxy will follow the grove, and fill it. It will probably run over however and will need to be sanded. I used 40 grit.
Once I did this, the damaged area was filled and completely flat.
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LegacyIndustrial
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Fill with a good epoxy crack filler to excess. Grind flush.
Your basecoat is typically a 100 sq ft per gallon coat and should hide it nicely.
Any defect not addressed prior to coating will telegraph through. Coating will not "fill" anything to the point of hiding it.
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My understanding is that you want to wait on new construction until the floor and house settles. It can and will crack, at first, but then will find its way to settle.
In my case the floor was 30 years old and I was told that the cracks were as cracked as they were going to get.
So i think it comes down to how settled your floor is.
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So I think I am going to try and tackle this in the next couple weeks. Temps here are in the mid 70s and not very humid. I have a buddy who is a artist to help. I am currently thinking the Angel Wings white with the Dark Sea and a Angel wing effect. I'll try and post my progress. Any more tips on floor prep? This is a new build home so the floor is only 1 month old
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