Anyone used PURE METALLIC Epoxy?

[thegarageguy]

I live on the beach in Wilmington North Carolina.

I love Wilmington...I used to party there during my days in the Marine Corps...Wrighstville Beach was my Zen place on weekends after a long week of *******, digging fighting holes and playing war...

If you can wait till Spring, fly me in, take car of my accommodations (on the beach) and pay me $500 per day (I usually charge $800 to consult) and I'll knock it out with you.

 

[DocME]

Just finished laying down Pure Mettalix Sand base coat with Dark Sea effects. Clear coats to follow.........

Just after laying down effects....

 

[Sovereign-1]

That looks really good Doc. I want to go with metallix for my floor but I cannot decide which color combination to go with. I had not seen that one before. Looks great.

 

[jy211]

looks great Doc!

 

[baggedcobra]

I'm considering doing this to my finished basement. We just pulled up the carpet and have bare concrete now due to removing a wall and adding a bar etc. My buddy and his dad finish concrete for a living so I'm going to recruit them and make it a DIY project.

 

[workhurts]

For the basement, as always, be careful with heat and flame sources. Some of the materials are a bit flammable and may require some airflow.

 

[ADSR]

Just finished laying down Pure Mettalix Sand base coat with Dark Sea effects. Clear coats to follow.........

Just after laying down effects....

Thats awesome.

 

[haleh]

Hi! I have two questions for you:

1. Does your epoxy have a shimmer to it when you look close to it in the light?
2. I'm torn between getting the Norkland 100M epoxy to use in my garage or the High - Performance Urethane clear coat. I don't want the color to look darker, but I also want something that will withstand having to drag heavy things into my garage without damaging it. Do you think I have to get the high - Performance Urethane clear coat and just deal with it affecting the color or can I get away with using the Norkland 100M clear coat instead?

Thanks!

Haleh

 

[workhurts]

Not sure who you're asking a question to since to my knowledge no one from Pure Metallics has actually ever been on this thread. You've had a couple of DIY people, a couple of installers, a couple of our regular vendors and others.

As far as I can tell, the urethane is clear ... super clear ... no effect on color. For some reason you can't put the urethane directly on top of the metallic effects. I have no idea why. You'll have to use a clear epoxy. Unfortunately, the term clear epoxy is a bit wrong as the epoxy really isn't that clear. It will darken and dull the metallics a little bit (not a lot) but will also add depth. It's hard to describe, it almost mutes the look a little bit in my opinion and that can be good in some instances.

Your best bet is to contact the company that sells the product and ask them questions.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Dragging? Dragging what?
Urethane over epoxy will outperform epoxy alone.


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[DocME]

Hi! I have two questions for you:

1. Does your epoxy have a shimmer to it when you look close to it in the light?
2. I'm torn between getting the Norkland 100M epoxy to use in my garage or the High - Performance Urethane clear coat. I don't want the color to look darker, but I also want something that will withstand having to drag heavy things into my garage without damaging it. Do you think I have to get the high - Performance Urethane clear coat and just deal with it affecting the color or can I get away with using the Norkland 100M clear coat instead?

Thanks!

Haleh

1. Yes there is a shimmer to it when you look closely or the sun catches it.
2. Yes, if this is going in the garage it was recommended to do two coats, 1st the 100m Epoxy (gives a lot of depth, flattens out the texture, and tones down the metallics.) The second coat for me was the 747 High Performance Polyurethane. This coat is supposed to wear better and gives an orange peel like finish, which I like for traction. For the garage, I wouldn't stop with just the Epoxy coat, The poly coat applies at a rate of 500 sqft/gallon so you don't need to buy very much of it in comparison to the epoxy. It rolls out easy, just make sure to take your time on the last roll, and get the floor to look consistent. I did end up with a couple of roller marks, although most people don't notice them.

With both clear coats I had a hard time rolling out the material to the recommended coverages. They both went a lot further than recommended and I ended up with extra. Floor looks awesome, I like it so far. I just finished painting the walls and ceiling, tonight I install the NewAge cabinets. I'll take some pictures of the finished product here in a couple of days......

 

[DocME]

Not sure who you're asking a question to since to my knowledge no one from Pure Metallics has actually ever been on this thread. You've had a couple of DIY people, a couple of installers, a couple of our regular vendors and others.

As far as I can tell, the urethane is clear ... super clear ... no effect on color. For some reason you can't put the urethane directly on top of the metallic effects. I have no idea why. You'll have to use a clear epoxy. Unfortunately, the term clear epoxy is a bit wrong as the epoxy really isn't that clear. It will darken and dull the metallics a little bit (not a lot) but will also add depth. It's hard to describe, it almost mutes the look a little bit in my opinion and that can be good in some instances.

Your best bet is to contact the company that sells the product and ask them questions.

TheEpoxyGuru is the rep for Pure Metallics and has a couple of posts on this thread.

I'll second that the epoxy clear somewhat mutes the shimmer of the color coat. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just an observation.

With Pure Metallic epoxy there is NO SPRAYING OF ANY SOLVENT what-so-ever. We use 100% solids epoxy in both the base coat material and the effect. We add some extra material to the effect portion that causes it to spread out. There will always be imperfections in any floor you have, I believe those flaws, like that of every human, are what give the floor its unique character... The picture with the dents in it does not have 100% solid clear coat on it which gives the floor a glass-like appearance. We have several top coat options available to suit the needs of the individual customer.
Thank you,

Andrew Johnson
Pure Metallics
26200 Groesbeck Hwy
Warren, MI 48089 USA

1-800-227-8479
[email protected]
www.originalcolorchips.com

 

[workhurts]

My bad. 100% right. I'm not sure how I missed a post from Andy. He's your guy for all questions related to this product. I know I asked him a bazillion questions before ordering.

 

[J2C2]

I assume a trip to western Kansas might be too far for you thegarageguy?/QUOTE]

I'll only travel to exotic locations where I can enjoy a beach

Great - so you will come to Indiana?
You might not of heard but there is an Indiana Beach
www.indianabeach.com

Love the looks and also know my limitations.
I also have a smaller job - total of 6,000 sq ft

 

[thegarageguy]

Great - so you will come to Indiana?
You might not of heard but there is an Indiana Beach
www.indianabeach.com

Love the looks and also know my limitations.
I also have a smaller job - total of 6,000 sq ft

If you are serious, I'll locate a competent crew in or near your area and I'll put together a quote for you. Email me specifics [email protected]

 

[texastoughtops.com]

Yes, my company www.TexasToughTops.com in Austin TX has installed several metallics epoxy floors. You pour "metallic powder" into clear epoxy. Using various trade secrets with various tool and chemicals, awesome swirls are created. The floors do look fabulous and they are becoming more and more popular. Give me a call if you would like some advice. 512-636-3766

 

[CreteCoater]

Trade secrets. Lol.

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[thegarageguy]

Trade secrets. Lol.

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Hahaha....guess we're not privy

 

[pro517]

Yes, you should be! Unfortunately, I am nowhere near the ready for coating stage. Hopefully after I finish a couple other projects I can start work on the shop.

 

[muncie21]

Interesting read. Is there a place that pulls all this info together concisely for the ADD DIY'er?

 

[DocME]

It's been a bit OT. The thread started as a DIY thread that compelled me to do my floor, but has been taken OT by vendors not related to this. The pure metallic website has a lot of good information on it and there really isn't too much more to it. I took some pictures as we went along, but there's nothing really difficult to it. There's a lot of steps, and its a lot of work, but nothing is too difficult for a DIY'er.

Check out these links for a how to:
http://www.puremetallic.com/pdfdatasheets/Metallix-Application-Instructions.pdf

http://www.puremetallic.com/Metallic-Epoxy-Coating-Application-Instructions.html

Good luck. Post up if you have any questions....

 

[amberjack1234]

I was very interested in doing this. They are so beautiful but require some artistic ability of which I am sorely missing in. For me this one is more for the professionals which there aren't any around where I live. Perhaps the makers can simplify the application process somehow and then it might be more DTY friendly. So I am doing the full broadcast chip floor.

 

[workhurts]

Artistic ability? If you are talking specifically about Pure Metallic floor coating then I'm not sure why you think it requires artistic ability. That was the whole point of the product.

As for everyone else the chimed in about other processes and products then yes, that would require some experience and artistic ability.

 

[muncie21]

So after a bit more reading and research, I have 1 (hopefully) more question.

While trying to price the metallic epoxies, I found several sites selling them. One was mentioned in this thread, others not. I noticed a difference in price, what other practical differences are there in this design space?

 

[DocME]

When I did my garage floor a couple of months back, I didn't find anyone else offering complete metallic kits. Where else have you found them?

 

[muncie21]

When I did my garage floor a couple of months back, I didn't find anyone else offering complete metallic kits. Where else have you found them?

No association
http://buyrhino.com/metal-fusion.html

 

[DocME]

Neat find. I didn't see that product when I was doing my research. I can't comment as to any product or quality differences. Looks similar though.

I looked at the spec sheet. The coverage rate seems a little different. It states 40-50 sqft per gallon. I had 632 sqft, so that would around 15 gallons sqft at the thicker coverage rate. Seems like more than twice the amount. Might want to verify that with the company.

 

[Sovereign-1]

No association
http://buyrhino.com/metal-fusion.html

With that one you have to use a leaf blower or flick/spray acetone in lieu of the other stuff you flick with the metallix. So you can't get the two tone effect if that is your thing. The metal fusion has some cool colors that I like. More options is better.

 

[muncie21]

I wonder if they both get materials from a common supplier...or it is just coincidence that one has a name a color 'Storm Gray' and the other 'storm cloud', both looking very similar.

 

[thegarageguy]

How's Pieface's floor holding up?

 

[motofool33]

How is the durability of these Floors so far, i know of one floor pictured above that is not durable at all.

 

[DocME]

5 months on mine so far and no issues.

 

[motofool33]

5 months on mine so far and no issues.

Can you share some info on your floor, and what youve done to it?

 

[Cruster]

I mean this in the best way, but now I hate you all. This has now become a must do for me and I've already spent all my shop money. Does anyone want to buy a really nice teenager? For sale, cheap. Low maintenance, low hours - only sits in front of a gaming console so must be dusted.

Damn, gotta do one of these floors, just gotta. Thanks a lot, this is worse than hotrod mods.

 

[4AudiQ]

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[muncie21]

Here's my garage with 'Storm Cloud' metallic effects. Although it's a bit more labor intensive than traditional epoxy, I'm very happy with the end product. I put down a clear coat over the epoxy, so I will come back in a year or so and let folks know about the durability of the product

 

[hilld]

Looks fantastic. I so want to do this.

 

[DocME]

Can you share some info on your floor, and what youve done to it?

Here's the post on page 10 of this thread with my floor: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3823781&postcount=202

It's a sand base coat with deep sea effects. I did a chemical etch, primer, base coat with effects, an epoxy clear, and a final poly clear on top.

 

[PieFace]

How's Pieface's floor holding up?

My floor is great.

The install was great, and the metallics went down perfectly.

The one problem was me. I didnt use enough of the metallic effect.

I had Storm Cloud base, (silver) and House of Smoke effect. (dark bronze)

So i wanted a light floor, I didnt use that much effect. The silver base swallowed up some of the effect and it came out looking snow leopardy.

 

[PieFace]

So I just did the floor again, and this time I used every last scrap of effect.

I did a storm cloud base, With house of smoke effect, but to keep the floor light, i used also storm cloud effect.

Came out CRAZY. Way better than the first time.