Wrench97
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Also good for head clearance like on headers or when using a larger diameter bolt/nut in certain places.
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Oh that’s smart is it because there’s more surface area on the sides of the fastener?
so you could use a larger bolt that requires more torque and the amount of torque available doesn’t depend on the diameter of the bolt face but depends on the surface area of the sides of the bolt face? Since that what will contact the tool?
I always assumed torque spec was based on size of the bolt itself since it would shear at where the head touches the bolt body. I never thought about how much torque can a tool deliver to a certain size fastener
but honestly idk if what I said here makes any sense just trying to come up with a justification for what was said
The Snap On set I bought last Wednesday (213AFLEY) does include E11.
Hohn
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Today I received my new lighting complement: 100SL, 52SLMax, and 52SL-WCP.
This is a massive upgrade from the tired Makita light I was using until it died in a tragic workplace accident this last weekend.
The trio of two lights and wireless charge pad is just super useful. The 100SL is perfect for underhood:
The 52SLMax is a superb “stick light.” It was genius to give the light two separate buttons. The magnet is nice and strong, the hook will prove handy and the brightness range is super useful with useful dimmability.
I really like that they kept the little flashlight in the tip, that’s something many lights have omitted. It’s not super bright, but plenty bright to be useful at the short ranges it’s intended for.
Homeruns, Astro. This lights are great. I’m hoping they hold up as well as they are reputed to. I especially appreciate that the plastic has a good bit of glass filling (feels like 35% to me, but I can’t be sure). It’s definitely duty-worthy.
Great stuff.
This is a massive upgrade from the tired Makita light I was using until it died in a tragic workplace accident this last weekend.
The trio of two lights and wireless charge pad is just super useful. The 100SL is perfect for underhood:
The 52SLMax is a superb “stick light.” It was genius to give the light two separate buttons. The magnet is nice and strong, the hook will prove handy and the brightness range is super useful with useful dimmability.
I really like that they kept the little flashlight in the tip, that’s something many lights have omitted. It’s not super bright, but plenty bright to be useful at the short ranges it’s intended for.
Homeruns, Astro. This lights are great. I’m hoping they hold up as well as they are reputed to. I especially appreciate that the plastic has a good bit of glass filling (feels like 35% to me, but I can’t be sure). It’s definitely duty-worthy.
Great stuff.
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vssjim
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I've got a lot of socket didn't even know there are a E 9 or E 11 really didn't know
I would love to see specialty tool sets for each major car manufacter.
For example- for BMW, partial list:
1/4" E10 & E12
E10 & E12 1/4" swivel
14mm 1" long bare hex (for drivetrain fluids)
T60 socket (for serpentine belt)
Etorx wrenches E10 to E16
For example- for BMW, partial list:
1/4" E10 & E12
E10 & E12 1/4" swivel
14mm 1" long bare hex (for drivetrain fluids)
T60 socket (for serpentine belt)
Etorx wrenches E10 to E16
Whyyyyyyyy
Fedwrench
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Ok, one more question about SEMA releases, when might we see the new digital inflator with the black display and metal body?
KnurledNut
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I believe an E11 is ideal for adjusting the shaft on some Honda EPB.
E9 and E22 are also obscure but tooling is still manufactured.
E9 and E22 are also obscure but tooling is still manufactured.
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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It's not unusual for us to have exclusives, or details and designs that are exclusive to certain brands. In those situations my hands are tied, or tied for a certain term.
If I’m reading between the lines here these are made by astro for Matco and are exclusive to Matco for a bit and eventually will be made in Astro name for maybe 1/3 the price but Chris can’t say any of that Due to contracts and matco getting mad about people not buying there tool to wait for the cheaper but same identical Astro brand one
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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It may be different for each outfit how long exclusives are, but for us they often aren't a set term I would even know about, they can be renewed or revisited based on negotiations with the customer brand. Like i said, in these situations it's out of my hands as i don't run the whole show.
Hohn
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Reversibility is quite overrated on this style of tool.
Please link or post the image. I must see these and can’t find them with a search.
Odd-job
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Also wishing for 78320 in 1/4 form and maybe a smaller set with the smaller sizes. These stubby are going to be great when stubby bits in a 1/4 bit driver are too weak/questionable in tight situations and should have a much lower profile than the 1/4 VIM stubby hex/torx.
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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We have a comprehensive case of 1/4" drive in the works. We're playing around with tool steel for it as well, if feasible.
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dnschmidt
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Chris, is all of the stuff in your picture above available now? I didn't get a new product announcement about several of the items shown.
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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As discussed a few times in the thread now. No, not yet.
It's just sort of what happens after SEMA, people are like where is it?
Those were prototypes we were getting feedback on at SEMA, those shown are the ones making the cut. Plus others we're working on.
It's just sort of what happens after SEMA, people are like where is it?
Those were prototypes we were getting feedback on at SEMA, those shown are the ones making the cut. Plus others we're working on.
Just wondering why you’d use a different steel on 1/4 as compared to 3/8 and 1/2
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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Just if we can. If you get closer to "bit" sized stuff you can start to forge out of tool steels in the way making sockets has limitations, the small tiny bit sizes especially in TORX can benefit from these alloys. On "larger" sockets you can get thick enough Cro-Mo that the advantage between one and the other pretty much goes away.
Oh I always hear vim tools bragging on there S2 tool steel. I got a few of there stubby 1/4 bit sockets in torx and hex
if it’s not too big of a deal in a few sentences can you say the difference between s2 and cro-mo and cro-vanadium with respect to how there used in sockets? Durability, brittleness, strength, cost, impact rating, whatever else? Maybe whether or not you run them chrome or black?
i always see these three but honestly idk why I would want one or another
How are we supposed to keep up on buying things with this rapid pace of new releases?
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Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
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I could probably write a full page, but that would just be me distilling almost 2 decades of experience on how and why i prefer to these choices all for our competition on display. It's not hidden knowledge, but they'll have to earn it the same way I did. By making lots of mistakes of course, ahaha.
Generally speaking S2, S7 > Ni-Cro-Mo like 8660 > CroMo like 4140 > CrV like 6150 or 6140 for impact stuff. That's also in order of material cost as well, as some countries don't have domestic Cro-Mo production and have to import but CrV is readily available everywhere.
This is also in order of wear on forging dies, size of the forging machine needed and the level of sensitivity to temperature and blank size during forging and treatment leading to a good consistent product. It's also due to some of these details you can't just make everything out of S2, or even 8660.
I'd take a well made Cr-V over a shop spitting out 8660 with poor processes and tolerances out of their control for example.
That ordering is not to say Cr-V is bad, it's miles better than lots of other mid grade alloy some outfits will still use, on most hand tools for example I can't tell the difference in testing between Cro-Mo and CrV - it's gotten VERY good. To the point where there's no reason not to use Cr-V on chrome stuff.
This also assumes a fixed dimensional constraint, beyond a certain size/thickness for most practical purposes you're not gaining any toughness with like S2 vs Cro-Mo, maybe just hardness which isn't always the goal either.
I'll make you guys a deal, you guys stop asking for them and we'll stop makin em
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I'll make you guys a deal, you guys stop asking for them and we'll stop makin em
How about a BOGO deal instead?I'll make you guys a deal, you guys stop asking for them and we'll stop makin em
(I'm a sucker for an Astro BOGO)
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I missed the last BOGO and I did buy the one set. I would have loved the deep socket set. One day Ill pick em up. I been buying the nano sockets and different size ratcheting wrenches to match. Even picked up the half size socket set 9.5-19.5. Living in the rust belt ***** and figure they will come in handy.
nicks78camaro
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@Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
Do you guys make these and do you have any plans to make reversible ones under your brand?
Cruzan80
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Post after someone else asked a very similar question up thread...
@Astro_Pneumatic_Tools
Do you guys make these and do you have any plans to make reversible ones under your brand?
nicks78camaro
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And? The question wasn't answered by Astro. Not even a "I can't answer that". Thanks.
Cruzan80
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You are correct that Chris didn't directly answer. His response is quoted below. Asking the same question again probably won't get a different answer, as he has said before that he is not always allowed to to publicly comment on what Astro makes for others. Sometimes "I can't answer" is even too far, as it canheavily imply things.
If I am wrong, I would be happy with Chris correcting me. But having worked for some companies with very restrictive NDAs, Imthe last thing I want is for him to get in trouble and GJ to lose a resource like this.
If I am wrong, I would be happy with Chris correcting me. But having worked for some companies with very restrictive NDAs, Imthe last thing I want is for him to get in trouble and GJ to lose a resource like this.
drokihazan
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Speaking of individually available, it's also a solution to this problem. Any chance that you might sell some of the skipped (or smaller/larger) sizes in the nano sets as individual sockets, maybe manufactured on limited runs and sold at a little bit of a higher price to justify the expense?
Yeah the 1/2 drove 17 to 30 is real interesting except for 20 23 25 26 28 and 29 tbh
im sure someone used them once but these are speciality sockets for me and I do already got a no skips shallow and deep to 30 I don’t need nano no skips too
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Also, have you thought about unifying the design of your blow-molds? Something I think HF is doing really well are those new Icon blow-mold cases. They're really sick, honestly.
Meanwhile, my Astro 78830 is a badass puller, but when it showed up the case was already exploded, broken hinges just from shipping, I tossed it on the spot since it was broken - one of those flimsy blue ones. Astro has a pretty cool design with the one used for 7582, it feels a lot nicer and has a lot more of a premium look and feel, with a neat latch. It would be cool to see something closer to that quality across the product line, even if not the extreme level of the Icon ones - something to match the quality of the product and make people want to keep it in their locker or box but hopefully not cost a fortune to manufacture and skyrocket the product price. Big fan of Astro tools, and went to college for design, so little details like that stand out to me as a customer.
Meanwhile, my Astro 78830 is a badass puller, but when it showed up the case was already exploded, broken hinges just from shipping, I tossed it on the spot since it was broken - one of those flimsy blue ones. Astro has a pretty cool design with the one used for 7582, it feels a lot nicer and has a lot more of a premium look and feel, with a neat latch. It would be cool to see something closer to that quality across the product line, even if not the extreme level of the Icon ones - something to match the quality of the product and make people want to keep it in their locker or box but hopefully not cost a fortune to manufacture and skyrocket the product price. Big fan of Astro tools, and went to college for design, so little details like that stand out to me as a customer.
nicks78camaro
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How do the 9401 snap ring pliers stack up to similar size Lang brand pliers?
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I'd go Lang