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Posting deadhorse smilies in a SO COO discussion is :deadhorse

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Anyways, if you're worried about Snap-on's exclusion of USA markings on their tools, the best thing you can do is vote with your wallet. I don't think we'll ever be privy to the truth behind it, whatever it is... maybe by the time modern Snap-on ends up on some site like Alloy Artifacts, we'll finally have some idea of what their true intent was with removing the markings.

All I can say, is we heard the same "No COO because we're global and the name should stand on its own" **** from Beta, and now a huge amount of their tools are made in Taiwan. I'll hold final judgement for a few years until we have a real idea of where Snap-on is going with it.
 
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Very interesting. Snap On has to do things to manage a global company and be competitive, I understand that. I think their tools are great, it's just nice to know where the components come from as well as where it's assembled.

Just part of the new world economy stuff is made from global components and the company lays their reputation on the line with the performance of the product. The performance of the product along with the marketing builds the brands image and the best companies rise to the top.

Well, there's 20% unemployment in Spain so God Bless them for sourcing some components from there, I trust that it's top quality. Got a lot of unemployment right here at home too, so I hope Snap On keeps making a lot of the best tools in the world right here in the good old USA. Gotta go out and buy some more Snap On right now!
 
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it never gets old, that is so much fun.

back to the ratchet, do they make a flex head one?

Not that I can find. One would be nice though.

Is it stamped Made in Spain?

No. The white box it came it had a Bahco label saying made in Spain on it. The only markings on the ratchet aside from the gear cover, are the word BAHCO with the fish/fish hook across the head and the model number 7750-3/8 CrV on the beam, and Bahco fish/fish hook on the handle.
When I researched this ratchet, it wasn't listed in the Bahco North America catalog. However, when I typed in country not listed, it came up in the international edition. :wtf:
If you want an F80 buy one. If you want something a little different, try the Bahco. There are plenty of tool choices out there. Just because someone uses something that you don't, doesn't make his choice wrong.:D
 

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Not that I can find. One would be nice though.



No. The white box it came it had a Bahco label saying made in Spain on it. The only markings on the ratchet aside from the gear cover, are the word BAHCO with the fish/fish hook across the head and the model number 7750-3/8 CrV on the beam, and Bahco fish/fish hook on the handle.
When I researched this ratchet, it wasn't listed in the Bahco North America catalog. However, when I typed in country not listed, it came up in the international edition. :wtf:
If you want an F80 buy one. If you want something a little different, try the Bahco. There are plenty of tool choices out there. Just because someone uses something that you don't, doesn't make his choice wrong.:D

I pulled the trigger on the Bahco(B80???) yesterday, I didn't get free shipping that was mentioned in one of the post's above, but still a good deal for a top notch design.

I sold my F80 years ago, because I don't really like thin handled ratchets, but this looks right up my alley.
 

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Here's my USA marked F80. It has date code 2007, so they decided on the change sometime after that.
 

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Slightly OT but has anyone used Bahco pliers? Their comfort grip long reach dikes look like an exact copy of the snapon's and I wouldn't mind trying them if I am going to order a couple of the ratchets anyways.
 

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I heard Moon Pies are made in China, but I don't see anything on the package.

Hate to let you down but RC Cola's in this area come from Columbus, GA and Moon Pies are still baked in Chattanooga, TN. By the way, Double Cola and Little Debbie's are the other two big local brands.....

Chattanooga is also the site of the first Coca Cola bottling plant in 1899.

Another weird fact is that Coca Cola was also invented in Columbus, GA
 

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Bahco Tools 1/4" Dr. 72 Tooth Enclosed Head Comfort Grip Ratchet 6950

Maybe old news but it looks like they are selling a 1/4" version with 72 teeth as well... just like the dual 80s; plus a 1/2" version..... Maybe this is part of a greater move on their part in the automotive sector: http://www.bahco.com/news/bahco_goes_automotive.html

http://www.bahco.com/products/ratchets.html

Page 55: http://www.bahco.com/catalogue/english.html?pageNumber=61#/54/

So, that makes: 1/4 (6950), 3/8 (7750), and 1/2 (8150) dual 80s in the bahco line...
 
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Slightly off the subject, last week i bought some 3/8 drive SO sockets. They have a 2006 date code and they were taken out of the package in my presence. How long does stuff stay in stock anyway? No complaints about quality of socket, and it is stamped made in USA.

KEH
 

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There have been more than a few court cases that hinged on the terms "significant", "negligible" and "virtually all".
If you are a company that wants to avoid an argument in court over the meaning of these terms, you simply don't stamp USA on the product.
 

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At least the Comfort Grip Handle is made in the USA :thumbup:
 

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At least the Comfort Grip Handle is made in the USA :thumbup:

I think you may be confused, or I don't understand what you're referring to. The "made in the USA" image in your pic is referring to the "3/8" drive enclosed head ratchets," not the Bahco ratchet.

Here's a screenshot I stole from their online catalog. You can see that the made in the USA image is placed below the product it's intended to refer to.
Link to Snap-On industrial brands website.
Link to online version of the printed catalog

Here's a link that takes you directly to a PDF of the page in the catalog I'm referring to.
http://www.snaponindustrialbrands.com/DSN/wwwsnaponindustrialbrandscom/Content/PDF/SNCAT1_177.pdf

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Once again we've lost sight of the recent post that brought this thread back, The Bahco fine tooth ratchet is available in 1/4 drive.:wtf:
Leave COO out of it and don't rehash the whole where it's made bit.
It could a nice addition to someone's box if they're looking for a comfort grip 1/4 drive ratchet.:beer:
 

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I think you may be confused, or I don't understand what you're referring to. The "made in the USA" image in your pic is referring to the "3/8" drive enclosed head ratchets," not the Bahco ratchet.

I was just noticing that the USA designation was in the 'handle' row, and nowhere else. I see from your link that it is placed elsewhere in the other Williams ad. The example I posted was just a quote from an earlier post. I see what you mean. thanks.
 

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I purchased the 1/4" and 1/2" Bahco ratchets from the ebay seller a week ago, they should be arriving soon.

Originally he didn't have the 1/4" listed on ebay, but he did on his own website. He only had the 1/2" listed on ebay, but not his website. So I asked him through ebay PM if shipping could be combined for the pair, he said yes and then listed the 1/4".

I really like the grip on the 3/8" I already have, so I pulled the trigger on the others. A great value for a fine ratchet:rocker:
 

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I purchased the 1/4" and 1/2" Bahco ratchets from the ebay seller a week ago, they should be arriving soon.

Originally he didn't have the 1/4" listed on ebay, but he did on his own website. He only had the 1/2" listed on ebay, but not his website. So I asked him through ebay PM if shipping could be combined for the pair, he said yes and then listed the 1/4".

I really like the grip on the 3/8" I already have, so I pulled the trigger on the others. A great value for a fine ratchet:rocker:

Update us on how you like it. I'd like to find a Snap-On-ish 1/2" drive ratchet to go with my F80 3/8", but don't really want to spend $100 on another ratchet.
 

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I purchased the 1/4" and 1/2" Bahco ratchets from the ebay seller a week ago, they should be arriving soon.

Originally he didn't have the 1/4" listed on ebay, but he did on his own website. He only had the 1/2" listed on ebay, but not his website. So I asked him through ebay PM if shipping could be combined for the pair, he said yes and then listed the 1/4".

I really like the grip on the 3/8" I already have, so I pulled the trigger on the others. A great value for a fine ratchet:rocker:


Be sure to post pics/review when they come.
The handles on these Bahco's seem to be overly rectangle, kind of like a Cman RP, as opposed to oval. How is that for comfort?

-Jeff
 

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A bit of background.

BAHCO originated as a tool-making/inventing company in the city of Enköping in Sweden.
The Founder B. A. Hjort used his initials with a CO(mpany) added, thus BAHCO.
Up until end of sixties all was done in Sweden, and the tools were first class. Then some of the fixed spanners (box and open ended combo) moved to Spain and Argentine, and luckily the quality was still good.

After the 80´s things went haywire, and I guess it woud be fair to say that al that remains now is the name. Some of the new "BAHCO" stuff is still good, some junk.
And I bet you that most of the people involved with the business end at "BAHCO" today would not even know what the tools they flog are used for.

This in sharp contrast with the founder, who knew exactly how to design, manufacture, sell and make money on all the tools his company were involved in.

That´s it for today´s rant, guys!

Ola
 

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Be sure to post pics/review when they come.
The handles on these Bahco's seem to be overly rectangle, kind of like a Cman RP, as opposed to oval. How is that for comfort?

-Jeff

I have 10 days left in my shift before I return home, so pics might take a while.

I tend to like ratchets with fatter handles, and the 3/8" Bahco fits the bill perfectly. The grip is firm with a slight tackiness to it.

I paid $79 for the 1/4 and 1/2 shipped, and $45 for the 3/8 when I bought it. $125 for a set of high quality ratchets is well worth the price of admission in my books. The handles may not be for everyone, but work superbly for me.
 

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Sorry for the crumby pic's, I'm horrible at taking pictures. Here are a couple family photos.

The 1/2" handle is very beefy :thumbup: Feels like I'm holding a hammer !!!!! I love it.

Snap-On performance without the bling, at an affordable price :beer:
 

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How is the verdict for 80 tooth Bahco?

I am considering 1/2" is it as heavy as the SO 80?
 

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How is the verdict for 80 tooth Bahco?

I am considering 1/2" is it as heavy as the SO 80?

It is awesome, it's actually a lot smoother than the 1/4" and 3/8" Bahco's I have. The 1/2" is BIG!!! Here is a group shot so you can get a feel for the massive size.

I haven't held a S80 in quite a long time, so I couldn't tell you about the weight.
 

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Thanks for the pics!

I guess it has similar balance as the S80. Probably little heavy for my taste.
- nice ratchet for the price!
 
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I was just noticing that the USA designation was in the 'handle' row, and nowhere else. I see from your link that it is placed elsewhere in the other Williams ad. The example I posted was just a quote from an earlier post. I see what you mean. thanks.

That's called a "Typographical error", and some were in the tool catalog it says that the company is not responsible for "Typographical errors". :bounce:
 
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Seems like these ratchets are worth a look at. I have a very old adjustable wrench from them made in Sweden that is of very high quality.
I also have new saws and saw blades that is still made in Sweden. The quality on them is also great.
 
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A bit of background.

BAHCO originated as a tool-making/inventing company in the city of Enköping in Sweden.
The Founder B. A. Hjort used his initials with a CO(mpany) added, thus BAHCO.
Up until end of sixties all was done in Sweden, and the tools were first class. Then some of the fixed spanners (box and open ended combo) moved to Spain and Argentine, and luckily the quality was still good.

After the 80´s things went haywire, and I guess it woud be fair to say that al that remains now is the name. Some of the new "BAHCO" stuff is still good, some junk.
And I bet you that most of the people involved with the business end at "BAHCO" today would not even know what the tools they flog are used for.

This in sharp contrast with the founder, who knew exactly how to design, manufacture, sell and make money on all the tools his company were involved in.

That´s it for today´s rant, guys!

Ola

I have some original Swedish made Bahco tools. The quality is outstanding.
 

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Picked up a Bahco model 7750 80 tooth ratchet ratchet the other day on a whim. The ratchet is made in Spain. I was surprised to see that the internals match a Snap on F80 ratchet down to the same printing (in english) on the gear cover plate "Sealed ratchet-do not immerse in fluids, replace worn parts, and PAT Pend." The ratchet measures 8 inches overall.
The comfort grip is well, comfortable. The rubber? suface has some texture to it, it's rectangular shaped, and gives a little when squeezed hard. There is a hole in the handle which may bother some. There's a slight curve where the handle meets the ratchet beam that provides for natural thumb placement. The ratchet beam is squarish, not round. The ratchet has good balance and feel to it. I'll take it to work and see how it performs.
The pictures below compare the Bahco to a standard F80 ratchet.

How do you know the Bahco ratchet is made in Spain?
 

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How do you know the Bahco ratchet is made in Spain?

Says so on the box it comes in. Got one myself, available here in Romania at the local Bahco distribuitor, they even got a sale on it :) Now waiting for some Z Series Koken sockets and I'll have the perfect motorcycle travel socket set.
 
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