We would recommend following carefully the supplied instructions, and inspecting the floor prior to use. Also a floor that has any pre-existing contamination should be prepped and cleaned well prior to coating to prevent any dispersion of the new coating.
Ballistix Protective Sealer/Coating
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wow this surprises me. Even on my application (I have a seperate thread and video documenting) where it wasn't a perfect cosmetic result, there is superb fluid resistance (hydrophobic). Water will sit for days and I've put trans fluid and gas on it, and it wipes right off. I even put it on a wood workbench top and it also repels the oil.
I sent a detailed e-mail on 11/30 with details and more photos. Would a phone call be better? Whom should I request?
I would agree there must be gaps in the product coverage, the acrylic base 8400 seems to "repel" the Ballistix upon install causing it to bead. I observed the same property in at least one other install here.
Directions for both products were followed to a T. I also consulted with a contact I have, a successful floor coating contractor in the area, who is an installer for Ballistix and very familiar with the product. He walked my floor and offered assistance prior to installation.
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Basketcase
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Curious how this plays out for you Leevon, I have almost ordered this multiple times now. But it is winter up here now so I am waiting until I get the in-floor heat on, or until spring... whichever comes sooner haha.
Deplorable
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@Leevon @Armorpoxy
‘What’s the details? Several are waiting to hear what happened and how it can be prevented. Or go another route…
‘What’s the details? Several are waiting to hear what happened and how it can be prevented. Or go another route…
ducatithunder
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please elaborate ... is this for Leevon issue or an additive for winter/cold weather application?
dodgepolara500
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This may be what I am looking for. Does it have low VOC? I have stayed away from epoxy because of the smell. I am hoping this has little to no smell
Hi
Ballisitx does have some odor and is not considered a low VOC product. It would be on the medium side.
We do though offer zero or extremely low odor coatings. Please contact us at below (not PM please) for assistance.
Ballisitx does have some odor and is not considered a low VOC product. It would be on the medium side.
We do though offer zero or extremely low odor coatings. Please contact us at below (not PM please) for assistance.
Andy Smith Jr.
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You can use 100% solids epoxies and they have zero VOC's. Most topcoats tend to have VOC and odor but you can use water based topcoats or low odor topcoats for example. Most of the vendors in this group have something to offer in that range.
ianagos
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I had issues with my application and while it looked pretty good at first after a couple months of light use it is peeling up in areas and is not looking great. But I have a polished concrete underneath so it still looks good just a bummer that the product didn’t really work and is not water resistant anymore.
Does anybody know if I buff it off can I apply a different sealer like ghost sheild instead?
Does anybody know if I buff it off can I apply a different sealer like ghost sheild instead?
Ballistix is peeling up? I'm curious to hear some resolution to some of the issues with this product. I've been ready to order several times, but then I read about more issues with either application or something else.
ianagos
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Followed application instructions exactly and over did it on the prep. And it was fine at first looked good but over the last couple months it started peeling. I had got some extra product before because I ran short on the last bit so I had enough to re soo it after drywall etc.
I spent the last 6 hours running a stripping pad and I didn’t get all of the old ballistix off but the stuff that is still on there seems to be stuck down decent well so it should be fine to apply the new over it I hope.
Gonna try agian amd see how it turns out. If this fails I’m just going to strip it amd do a penetrating sealer.
I will also mention ballistix is not as scratch resistant as they make it sound. Can scratch pretty easily I’d say the same or easier than the epoxy floors I had in the last shop but since it’s so thin you can’t see them unless you are looking.
My floor is 800grit polished concrete if that makes any difference. I regret not just doing a guard and buffing it in with a high speed buffer. May not have been as water resistant but neither is the ballistix once it gets a couple scratches.
ianagos
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Well as an update to this I redid the floor and so far it looks better than the last time and seems to be holding up. Had riggers come in with their forklifts and while I did have ram board type paper they shredded that rather quickly but the floor seems to have held up.Followed application instructions exactly and over did it on the prep. And it was fine at first looked good but over the last couple months it started peeling. I had got some extra product before because I ran short on the last bit so I had enough to re soo it after drywall etc.
I spent the last 6 hours running a stripping pad and I didn’t get all of the old ballistix off but the stuff that is still on there seems to be stuck down decent well so it should be fine to apply the new over it I hope.
Gonna try agian amd see how it turns out. If this fails I’m just going to strip it amd do a penetrating sealer.
I will also mention ballistix is not as scratch resistant as they make it sound. Can scratch pretty easily I’d say the same or easier than the epoxy floors I had in the last shop but since it’s so thin you can’t see them unless you are looking.
My floor is 800grit polished concrete if that makes any difference. I regret not just doing a guard and buffing it in with a high speed buffer. May not have been as water resistant but neither is the ballistix once it gets a couple scratches.
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Ianagos, please explain your "mottled look" to this floor newbie with new concrete waiting for warm weather to be sealed/coated. Did the 800 grit polishing remove some of the top cement layer to expose small aggregate in some places? Is that a good thing? I can see this look being better at hiding imperfections and wear/tear vs. a very uniform look.
ianagos
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I did a full grind and polish we started with 30/40grit pucks on a large propane planetary grinder. And went all the way to 800 grit resin bonds
I removed a lot of material the look you see is actually from when they were screeding the concrete with a power screed when they set it down it would settle the aggregate more. So after the grind I only have a partial exposed aggregate finish. Some areas you can also may see what looks like their boot prints too.
Was an awful job on the pour though 3 guys with 5 trucks of old setting up concrete. Concrete was ground because it was so lumpy/out of level.