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Base and wall cabinets for storage and work bench

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I'm putting together a plan to install a based cabinet with plywood or butcher block work surface and wall cabinets. How are the unfinished project sources cabinets at Lowes vs there Diamond Portland finished cabinets vs other options? I'm open to other options available in the San Diego Area too.

It's a single car garage 20 ft long x 10 ft wide by 8 ft high. In the front, I have 4 ft of wall space on either side of the water heater on the front garage wall. Looking at putting a 36-inch cabinet and top on the right side, a tool chest on the left side and wall cabinets on both side.

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I do not trust kitchen cabinets for shop use.
They are not designed, or built, for the heavy loads of shop tools.
 

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As far as the quality goes none of the big box stores are great. You might be better off going to a local cabinet guy and might even be cooperative on price.

I got great high quality kitchen cabinets for free so I put them in my garage for a while. They didn't hold up well and I was never happy with them. Seemed everything I wanted to store was to big, to heavy or to small to find when I needed it. After a few years of putting up with them I ripped them all out. Went to Sam's club and bought their garage cabinets, carts and roll around tool boxes. I think I spent less than $2,000 which is way less the than the wood cabinets were worth new. Everything is on wheels except a couple of wall cabinets and sized for garage stuff. My 2 cents... if you're buying new cabinets buy cabinets meant for the garage.
 
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I went the Craigslist route for my wood/dirty work shop. Found an 8-foot knotty pine base in the "free" section. A nice solid core door (pretty cheap at the Habitat for Humanity Re-Store Store) for a top and you've got something you beat the **** out of.

Ray

PS: You're welcome to stop by and take a look at both garages.
 

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I'd have no issue using upper wall cabinets designed for a kitchen in the garage. You may find that the shelving may not be optimal for what you are planning to stick in them though.

The lowers, I basically built a bench and added some cabinet doors to them.
 

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I have repurposed kitchen cabinets in the garage for many years. My Latest house has these that I bought at Habitat. They are in my third garage bay. Sanded, primed and painted with SW oil base gloss. The knobs all came from Habitat. The top is two sheets of 3/4 particle board screwed and glued than painted with SW oil base gloss. The top is covered with the PVC floor protector from Home Depot. I use the bench for all my projects but don’t do a lot of beating on it as I don’t need to. Biggest problem is the 36 inch drawers on these can’t take a lot of weight and sag. I plan to put new glides on them. Bottom cabinets hold a lot.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. I've been to Habitat a few times looking for take out or second/damaged cabinets and a freestanding sink for another project, watch CL, and father joes furniture warehouse though that's better for finding tables or benches. The New Age Pro line looks like a good option and I like the Premier Gladiator option too. The front wall of my garage is 10 ft wide but I only have 4 ft on either side since the water heater is in the middle of the wall.
It's single car garage attached to a townhome and may not be the typical garage build but I'm more DIY than most of the other owners in the complex. I've made some improvements and now am looking too add storage and eventually a sink. The walls were beat up so we filled in and patched the drywall and painted the garage, had Perkins put in the polyaspartic floor coating and fix the stemwalls, and put in Cree LS4 Surface lights (the LS4 is amazing the light quality is better than any room in the house it's well worth the cost to put them in). Current project is more storage and then on to finding a free standing sink (or giving up and getting a cabinet and kitchen style sink) that can feed off the supply drain and vent from the half bath behind the front of the garage wall so I'm not rinsing off paint brushes parts etc. in the kitchen sink. I do have access to friends garage/ shop for bigger projects but like to keep the house up and have place for my tools and parts.
 

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By a used domino machine then buy something me Baltic birch ply. It will be about the same cost as buying cheep prebuilt cabinates but they will last a lifetime
 

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Do you live in an area that doesn't have to worry about freezing temps in the winter ? Unless you heat the garage, you're going to have freezing issues with the sink.
 
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The cabinets at big box stores are particle board and are glued and stapled together. Not very strong. I used some in my laundry room but I wouldn’t trust them for much more than that.
 

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The durability of unfinished base cabinets from Lowes will depend on what kind of work you plan on doing...if you'll be putting engine blocks on the counter or hammering on things with a sledge they aren't going to hold up but if it's just general light car and house maintenance they'll be okay. I would imagine it would be easy enough to reinforce them with some additional 2x4 structure screwed inside if necessary.


As others have mentioned I'd watch Craigslist or other sources for used cabinets first - people are always remodeling kitchens, and you can often get good quality stuff for cheap or even free.
 

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The durability of unfinished base cabinets from Lowes will depend on what kind of work you plan on doing...if you'll be putting engine blocks on the counter or hammering on things with a sledge they aren't going to hold up but if it's just general light car and house maintenance they'll be okay. I would imagine it would be easy enough to reinforce them with some additional 2x4 structure screwed inside if necessary.

Thanks for stating this,,,my thoughts exactly.

If you plan a heavy machine shop kitchen cabinets are not the way to go. For general storage and work they should be fine. I am going with the Home Depot assembled and painted cabinets with butcher block tops.

Cheers!
 

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If you have the time, build your own. I built this in my garage, and it was the first time I ever built a cabinet. They're all 3/4" plywood, and very sturdy. It definitely took a good chunk of time though.

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I had kitchen base and wall cabinets in my garage and did not like them. The base cabinets were too small and the wood shelves sagged or broke and the drawers could not hold the weight of tools or parts. They lasted 10 years with light duty use. The top cabinets did better but they were never the right size for storing items.

Eventually, I tore them out and built a large wall unit with sliding doors utilizing heavy duty slide out shelves and plastic totes. It's made of 3/4" plywood and painted. It has held up very well for the last 3 years. I then built a work table and tool carts. It's not that hard and you get to build to the size you need.
 

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The cabinets at big box stores are particle board and are glued and stapled together. Not very strong. I used some in my laundry room but I wouldn’t trust them for much more than that.

Right I got free cabinets after my neighbor did a kitchen remodel. Very nice but I think the humidity that is in my garage which would not typically be in a house.

I think that weakened the cabinet mounting backer boards and they bowed and started falling apart.
 
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This site is a great resource really appreciate the help and suggestions. To answer a few comments there's no freezing here in San Diego dought the garage ever gets below high 40's low 50's. Lowes Cabinets are furniture board basically the same as particle board and not strong. 2x4 structure screwed inside and plywood shelving could add strength and usefulness but then you might as well build your own like Mr. Roboto. Humidity is kept at 50 percent or so down from 60's and 70's percent it was with before the dehumidifier but it's costing about $30 a month to run the dehumidifier. Paint cans were rusting and I had other signs of high humidity so $30 a month is a trade-off for a usable space, avoiding rusting tools, and minimizing mold and mildew problems. Tried 40 and 45 percent humidity setting and that was $40 plus monthly so 50 percent is a compromise. The cost was calculated using a Kill a Watt.
 
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Wanted to post this separately to keep from getting lost in above post.

John from NewAge the Yep I'm the NewAge Garage Cabinet distributor responded quickly to my e-mail. He suggested the 6 piece model 52148 Pro 3.0 and it's a very nice piece. A similar Bold 3.0 set the 24 gauge made in China is around $800 vs $1,600. The Pro 3.0 is obviously the better set but for light shop use and storage is the Bold 3.0 a reasonable option?

NewAge Products Bold 3.0 77.25 in. H x 78 in. W x 18 in. D 24-Gauge Welded Steel Bamboo Worktop Cabinet Set in Gray (6-Piece)
1 x Multi-use Locker ( 30"W x 18"D x 75"H )
2 x Wall Cabinet ( 24"W x 12"D x 18"H)
1 x Rolling Tool Cabinet ( 20.75 in. W x 16 in. D x 33 in. H)
1 x 2-Door Base Cabinet ( 24"W x 16"D x 33.25"H)
1 x 48" Bamboo or Stainless Steel Worktop ( 48" W x 18" D x 1" H)

Not enough room here so putting engine blocks on the counter or hammering on things with a sledge is done at a friends place who has a sturdier setup and more room. If you bring food and drinks when you show up to borrow a shop and put tools back and replace ones you damage you tend to get invited back...
 

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...If you bring food and drinks when you show up to borrow a shop and put tools back and replace ones you damage you tend to get invited back...

I found this on some web site I don't know how long ago. No idea who the author is/was but it makes a lot of sense.

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Shop Day Rules
I thought it might be time to take a minute and talk about shop etiquette and procedures.

I am very happy to host the garage days at my shop, and want to continue offering my shop, equipment, tools and knowledge to the benefit of the club members. I don't have a lot of rules, just have fun, and be safe and respectful of others and their things.

To that end, here are a few requirements and just good manners I expect to be followed:

Tools:

If you borrow or use a tool, put it back where you got it.

If you don't know where it goes just put it in the red cart and I'll take care of it, don't just stick it somewhere or hang it on the first peg you see.

When a tool comes out of one of my boxes, it's clean. I expect it to be that way when it's returned to me. Honestly, would you put dirty silverware back in the drawer at your house?

If you borrow a tool, make sure it doesn't go home with you. If it does, just contact me and let me know what you have and when you can drop it back by. If it happens, I'm not worried about it as long as they come back. Likewise, if I find something that isn't mine, I'll do my best to contact who I think it belongs to and hold it till they can come by, but you have to inventory your own tools.

Equipment:

If you borrow any of my tools, please try to return it as soon as you can in case someone else wants to do some work on their car. The rule on cleanliness applies here too.

If you break something, lose something or damage something don't sweat it, just replace it with like. Stuff happens, so just let me know and we'll deal with it - no biggie.

Shop cleanliness:

I always try to have the shop clean, swept and tools put away and available; I also keep cleaners, shop towels, paper towels, hand cleaner, fluids, sprays, anti-seize and so on at the ready. If you use something up, let me know so we can replace it.

If you dump brake dust all over the floor, sweep, wipe or clean it up.

If there's something you think we should have on hand or that we need, let me know and I'll get it into stock.

If you borrow a quart of oil or use brake fluid to flush your system, simply replace it with the same.

I provide hand cleaner, towels and soap to wash up with, please don't leave the sink dirty and the walls splattered with dirt. Wipe up after yourself, I'm not your mother!

Workmanship:

We're not professionals, so mistakes can happen and I can't check every nut and bolt although I will go back over your work with you to try and make sure nothing gets missed. Every one of you should develop their own mental checklist and do the same. If you need help, ask - it's why I'm here.

In the end, you are responsible for your car - period.

Shop safety

Common sense should prevail here -

If you're using a grinder or sander wear safety glasses - I have extras, just ask.

Don't get under a car unless it is properly supported on jack stands or ramps. Make sure wheels are chocked.

Don't have a shop towel in your hand while using something spinning at high speed like a drill or bench grinder (this includes loose clothing as well.)

Don't spray volatile or flammable liquids on hot surfaces.

There are fire extinguishers hanging by the around the shop, locate them so you know where they are if you need one quickly.

Alcohol is not allowed in the shop till all the work is done for the day and things are all put away safely.

Finally: The point of shop days is to hang out with other Gearheads and have some fun, camaraderie, good fellowship and maybe get a little work done on our cars. Guests who are not working are more than welcome, but please make sure you don't impede the work for those that are. Please, no young children. The shop environment is too dangerous to allow them to wander about or distract you from your project.

I’ve never had a serious accident in my shop, and I'd like to keep it that way.

And don't leave my damn tools dirty!

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Ray
 
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That's a generous shop owner with reasonable rules. I came here for info on unfinished cabinets and found what may be the better option NewAge. Thanks for sharing about different options.

John was very responsive and gave me some good info. I'd e-mailed him about the pro line and he suggested the NewAge Pro 3.0 Series 6 Piece Mobile Cabinet Set
52148. It's a beautiful set but the 66' bench width is more than I have room for. I found a Build 3.0 set the built in China thinner gauge steel cabinet 6 piece set with a 48' width bench. Sam's is selling the 6 pc Build 3.0 24 gauge for $719 so I'm going to try it out. The Pro has more room and a higher level of construction but I want something compact and the Sam's deal is hard to pass up.
I'll see how the Build 3.0 does the best quality would be the 3/4 plywood and 2x4 DIY or the NewAge pro but I'll give the Build a shot.

NewAge Products Bold 3.0 6-Piece set (Various Options)
by NewAge Products | Item #: 980072146 | Model #: 50098

Pretty basic set up not casters/ wheels, no led lights, no backsplash, etc. but it's $719 99. I used a Sam's day pass/ guest membership and got it without the 10 percent non-member mark up.

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/bold-3-0-6-piece-set-cabinetry-set/prod21451745.ip
 
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