Battery Impact Wrench

[cj7365]

I know this subject probably has been covered 1000 times, but I did try the search function without results

I am looking forward to a million responses.

I bought the Ryobi P261 because I already had a drill/batteries/charger from Ryobi. Well its advertised 300 lbs torque, well my Jeep lugs are torque to 80lbs and it would not even take them off, so this is a POS, its going back.

I know most of the impacts are made in China and that really *****, but I need one that will take off lugs nuts, I will mainly use this on my Jeep and MH.

I was looking at the Kobalt from Lowes which has great reviews, but all the dam impacts have great results, so that is why I am coming here.

Please help me out.

 

[kunkernator]

Personally, I am a Milwaukee diehard. They are always on top of their game when it comes to new innovations, and IMO, and some factual claims, their 1/2'' impact IS the best on the market.

As for that Ryobi thou, that should have more than enough power to take lugs off. Make sure you are using a good battery (I believe those can take LI-ION and NiCD?, use a LI-ION), and a proper impact socket.

 

[cj7365]

Personally, I am a Milwaukee diehard. They are always on top of their game when it comes to new innovations, and IMO, and some factual claims, their 1/2'' impact IS the best on the market.

As for that Ryobi thou, that should have more than enough power to take lugs off. Make sure you are using a good battery (I believe those can take LI-ION and NiCD?, use a LI-ION), and a proper impact socket.

I have the LI-ION battery, I have 2 that are about 1 year old, I will charge them, and try again, I was using an impact socket.

Thanks for your response

 

[POS Racing]

I just got the P261 so far I have not found anything it wouldn't break loose. The lugs on my truck are torqued to 100lbs ran ever one off no issues. Also just used it to bust loose the nuts on the radius arms on my truck hadn't been touched in 20 years but southern truck. Also rotated the tires my Miata this weekend it and it didn't miss a beat.

Noticed if I tried to use it with my old batteries wouldn't do much. But I got the setup that included a new high capacity lithium battery (Sold as a kit under number P1830). YMMV

 

[cj7365]

I just got the P261 so far I have not found anything it wouldn't break loose. The lugs on my truck are torqued to 100lbs ran ever one off no issues. Also just used it to bust loose the nuts on the radius arms on my truck hadn't been touched in 20 years but southern truck. Also rotated the tires my Miata this weekend it and it didn't miss a beat.

Noticed if I tried to use it with my old batteries wouldn't do much. But I got the setup that included a new high capacity lithium battery (Sold as a kit under number P1830). YMMV

I don't have the new hicap batteries, but yeah I guess that could be a problem.

I guess before I take it back, ill try again, I was really frustrated.

I'll check out the hi cap batteries, guess I could always return them if it doesn't pan out. thanks for the part no.

 

[cj7365]

Just looked up the hi cap battery.

•Improves the performance of 18-Volt ONE+ tools up to 35%

wish it would of said something on the impact description about the hicap battery

$100 for 2 of them, it would be better to send this one back and order the kit, or

I could get the Lowes Kobalt impact for $259 which includes the charger with 2 batteries

 

[POS Racing]

This is what I got at Home Depot - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ON...in-Cordless-Impact-Wrench-Kit-P1830/206157712

 

[PC PaiN]

I have the Milwaukee 3/8 Fuel impact. Zipped the lugs off our Rubicon with no issue.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Stick with the big 2 : DeWalt or Milwaukee.

 

[Kenskip1]

Sears now is selling the same tool with a 4.oah battery for $159. I have just learned that Ryoby, Craftsman and Rigid are all the same.If you pursue this make sure you get the "Heavy Duty" model.

 

[jhnlngn]

Anybody had any luck with the offerings from Makita? I already have their batteries and chargers.

 

[f575gtc]

I have a C3 Craftsman with nicad batteries, and it has tons of power to loosen any lug nut, anything more I whip out the air powered HF Earthquake and the 700lbft + rips everything off.

 

[CobraChevelle]

I know this subject probably has been covered 1000 times, but I did try the search function without results

I am looking forward to a million responses.

I bought the Ryobi P261 because I already had a drill/batteries/charger from Ryobi. Well its advertised 300 lbs torque, well my Jeep lugs are torque to 80lbs and it would not even take them off, so this is a POS, its going back.

I know most of the impacts are made in China and that really *****, but I need one that will take off lugs nuts, I will mainly use this on my Jeep and MH.

I was looking at the Kobalt from Lowes which has great reviews, but all the dam impacts have great results, so that is why I am coming here.

Please help me out.

I don't know if I am allowed to do this but take a look at this.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308489

I like this better than my Milwaukee 1/2 but since mine is used even though it looks new I would loose my **** selling that vs this.

 

[Hpozzuoli]

If you are going for a construction type impact like a Dewalt or Milwaulkee (both very good) get the one that you think you will buy more tools from. I am a contractor and use the 20v Dewalt stuff. Oddly I don't have their 1/2 impact.

In the auto world you can get IR or Snap On. I have the Snap On and it has been flawless. One of my batteries just **** the bed so I need to get a new one.

 

[CJM8515]

Ive had an older snap on cordless with nicads, worked well when it was the only real game in town. Recently got the milwaukee and its way stronger, better batteries and works well. Downside is both are heavier than your ryobi. For most the ryobi with the good batteries will do the job. My cousin has all ryobi tools and loves them, but my milwaukee stuff puts them all to shame. Course for my 4 tools cost the same as his 10+ tools Im sure.

 

[alien]

First post..

I have both the Snap on and Ingersoll rand cordless impacts. There are 2 versions of the Ingersoll rand and you want the later W7150 model. Snap on discontinued the Li Ion batteries for the Impact (you have to buy their newer model for Li Ion) and even with the Li Ion batteries in the snap on the IR had a lot more power. By trade I am an electrician and use Dewalt, Milwaukee, Ryobi in the field doing industrial electrical work. When working on my Motorcycles and Trucks the IR is the only way to go!!

Do some you tube and internet searches on the IR/Snap on cordless imapcts.

 

[CobraChevelle]

isn't the difference one with 3.0ah and the other with 5.0ah battery? same impact but different battery?

 

[anndel]

Anybody had any luck with the offerings from Makita? I already have their batteries and chargers.

I have the Makita XWTO4. It's ok as it broke some wheel lugs but not all. I had to use a breaker bar first for the others it couldn't loosen.

 

[jhnlngn]

I have the Makita XWTO4. It's ok as it broke some wheel lugs but not all. I had to use a breaker bar first for the others it couldn't loosen.

Thanks for the info, that was the one I was looking at. I saw that the XWT02Z had a good video review on youtube but the one you have has more power.

 

[f575gtc]

I just looked up my specs, the C3 with Nicad only puts out 200lbft wow, thought it was more powerful

RIDGID has their X4 that puts out 325lb ft with lithium, the second they release their X5 brushless Im all over it

 

[Don53]

I just looked up my specs, the C3 with Nicad only puts out 200lbft wow, thought it was more powerful

RIDGID has their X4 that puts out 325lb ft with lithium, the second they release their X5 brushless Im all over it

The newer C3 1/2 Impact with the lithium battery puts out 300 ft-lbs.

 

[alien]

Ingersoll Rand W 7150 specs

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs
• Durability: Steel-lined aluminum hammer case designed to be strong and light-weight for maximum protection of the internal components
• Comfort: Patent-pending soft touch over-molded grip minimizes vibration, reduces fatigue and enhances user comfort during extended use

 

[CobraChevelle]

Ingersoll Rand W 7150 specs

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs
• Durability: Steel-lined aluminum hammer case designed to be strong and light-weight for maximum protection of the internal components
• Comfort: Patent-pending soft touch over-molded grip minimizes vibration, reduces fatigue and enhances user comfort during extended use

Like I said, what are the difference other than the new batteries?

Older kit:

W7150-K1 : Standard Anvil One Battery Kit: Includes W7150 Impactool, IQV20 Charger, 20V li-ion 3.0 Ah batterie, Blow-molded case

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs

Newer Kit:

W7150-K12 : Standard Anvil One Battery Kit: Includes W7150 Impactool, IQV20 Charger, 20V li-ion 5.0 Ah batterie, Blow-molded case

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs

 

[NonSenCe]

i was wondering why bigger "Ah" battery would make the same tool more powerful than with smaller Ah battery?

(dead or empty battery that cannot produce the demanded amperage or voltage anymore is ofcourse understandable reason why it is not as good, but just comparing a small vs big okay condition battery)

Isnt "Ah" just Ampere hour, and just gives you LONGER use time. and the Voltage of the tool/battery is the marking of "more power" (10.8 < 14v < 18v etc.)

isnt each tool just designed to draw certain amount of amps out of the battery as it run. and every battery that is designed to be used with the tool should be able to produce that amount with ease.

 

[alien]

I wasn't even aware about the difference in batteries? No difference in torque but longer lasting?. When I mentioned about getting the newer IR cordless I was referring to the

IRTW360-KL2. Features and Benefits:•360 ft.-lb max reverse torque
•Less than 6.2 lbs. with Lithium-Ion battery
•0-1650 RPM, 0-2200 IPM
•Engineered composite housing with patent pending metal sub-frame for unbreakable strength
•All metal hammer case and housing ring for added durability

I had one and it was junk. I ended up being one of their test mules for the new W7150 and it is/was a beast. I loaned it to a mechanic friend for a couple of months and he said he never found anything it wouldn't remove, was as good as his air impacts without an air hose to deal with and the battery lasted all day. I keep it in my truck tool box just in case I get a flat or? Six months and the battery still has the same charge and it just works!!

Cheapest I have been able to find it is HERE

You can get 1 or 2 three or five amp hour batteries. depending on what you want to spend. I have the three amp hour and only one and never had an issue.

Like I said, what are the difference other than the new batteries?

Older kit:

W7150-K1 : Standard Anvil One Battery Kit: Includes W7150 Impactool, IQV20 Charger, 20V li-ion 3.0 Ah batterie, Blow-molded case

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs

Newer Kit:

W7150-K12 : Standard Anvil One Battery Kit: Includes W7150 Impactool, IQV20 Charger, 20V li-ion 5.0 Ah batterie, Blow-molded case

Power: 780 ft-lbs of maximum reverse torque and 1100 ft-lb of nut-busting torque from cordless impact wrench that weighs only 6.8 lbs

 

[Conductor562]

Anybody had any luck with the offerings from Makita? I already have their batteries and chargers.

Makita has a new high torque impact on the horizon

 

[f575gtc]

ok is it ft-lbs or lbs-ft? I always thought it was ft-lbs but I was watching a auto show on Velocity the other day and everyone kept saying lbs per ft

 

[rice rocket]

It's ft*lbs or lb*ft, it's definitely not per foot.

You could also call it like Jeremy Clarkson does, and just call it "torques", as a unit itself.

 

[Ilikeike]

ok is it ft-lbs or lbs-ft? I always thought it was ft-lbs but I was watching a auto show on Velocity the other day and everyone kept saying lbs per ft

I think we all hear ft-lbs, and I still mostly say that since people are use to it, but when I was wrenching on F-16's we learned that it is really lbs-ft.

 

[impactsocket]

Dewalt DCF899 edges out the Ingersoll Rand W 7150.

Dewalt DCF899 1/2″ impact wrench delivers 700 ft-lbs of max torque and 1200 ft-lbs of max breakaway torque.

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Watch this video on 1/2" Impact Wrenches - W7150 vs 2763 vs DCF899 ( Milwaukee / Dewalt / Ingersoll Rand )

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305790&highlight=Dewalt+DCF899

 

[alien]

Interesting video, thanks. Cordless impacts have come a long way. Being an electrician I have been using cordless tools since they first came out. I just can't bring myself to buy dewalt anymore. Either the batteries and or triggers always fail on me after about a year or so. By then its different batteries and designs and you have to buy a whole new set up. I have been impressed when using the Milwaukee fuel line but do not own them. I have had my W7150 since they were first introduced a few years ago and it is still working strong and has been used in a commercial environment for a portion of its life.

Looks like for most people you couldn't go wrong with any of the three? It looks like the pricing is similar also.

Dewalt DCF899 edges out the Ingersoll Rand W 7150.

Dewalt DCF899 1/2″ impact wrench delivers 700 ft-lbs of max torque and 1200 ft-lbs of max breakaway torque.

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Watch this video on 1/2" Impact Wrenches - W7150 vs 2763 vs DCF899 ( Milwaukee / Dewalt / Ingersoll Rand )

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305790&highlight=Dewalt+DCF899

 

[Conductor562]

The Dewalt is basically a yellow version of the Mac BWP050. I've been using the Mac for a couple years and have nothing but good things to say about it.

All of Mac's cordless tools are pretty nicely done really.

 

[3 Gun Shooter]

The Dewalt is basically a yellow version of the Mac BWP050. I've been using the Mac for a couple years and have nothing but good things to say about it.

All of Mac's cordless tools are pretty nicely done really.

MAC buys both their air tools and cordless from others. At least MAC is smart enough to buy their premium air/cordless tools from I/R. I only use I/R air tools, I'm very happy with my Milwaukee cordless, best part of Milwaukee is their warranty and how we have a service center close by. Only had one bad battery so far but they tested and get me on my way with a new battery in 10 minutes.

 

[Conductor562]

Mac's cordless tools are built to spec in Dewalt facilities. Have been since the revamped the cordless line about 3 years ago. The tools are similar but unique.

I dunno about all their air tools, but I know all the ones released in the last 3 years or so are made by several companies and none of them is Ingersall Rand. All Mac's suppliers come to their annual tool fair, so I know who they are, and IR isn't one of them.

 

[CobraChevelle]

Mac's cordless tools are built to spec in Dewalt facilities. Have been since the revamped the cordless line about 3 years ago. The tools are similar but unique.

I dunno about all their air tools, but I know all the ones released in the last 3 years or so are made by several companies and none of them is Ingersall Rand. All Mac's suppliers come to their annual tool fair, so I know who they are, and IR isn't one of them.

Mac air tools I think are made by Proto Or whoever makes Proto air tools. Aircat also made Mac air tools

 

[f575gtc]

Too bad Ridgid doesn't have a high torque output torque wrench, I don't want to buy a single tool that uses different batteries from my other kit, and none of these companies off a lifetime warranty either

 

[CobraChevelle]

Now this impact looks a lot like Ingersol rand W7150

 

[Conductor562]

Mac air tools I think are made by Proto Or whoever makes Proto air tools. Aircat also made Mac air tools

Yes, this impacts are made by the same manufacturer, but it isn't IR, Aircat, or anyone else you've probably ever heard of.

 

[Conductor562]

Now this impact looks a lot like Ingersol rand W7150

Nope, built in an SBD plant using the Dewalt 20V platform. No IR involvement whatsoever

 

[CobraChevelle]

Yes, this impacts are made by the same manufacturer, but it isn't IR, Aircat, or anyone else you've probably ever heard of.

Yes, But before the design I posted Aircat was there supplier and IR before Aircat..

Pretty much whoever is the cheapest with the most profit gets the MAC name and PO