Bench vise

[sportcoupe]

I'm old. But new to this forum
I have a Holland 24 1)2 h vise. I've had it for 20 years. Got it from an old Machinist friend when he passed away. Use it all the time but I didn't know it was valuable.

 

[Shiftless]

Welcome to the group.
You've got a great vise there. Hollands are quite well made. I have a very similar one in my collection. Hollands 44 1/2. Same jaw width but with the added feature of a swiveling back jaw.

 

[sportcoupe]

Thanks I posted a pic but didn't show up.

 

[Leon bee]

swiveling back jaw.

I can't figure this out from the picture.

 

[Shiftless]

I can't figure this out from the picture.

Here is an explanation I found online.

A swiveling back jaw vise allows the rear jaw to rotate, enabling it to clamp onto irregularly shaped or tapered objects. By removing a pin, the back jaw becomes free to swivel, adjusting to the shape of the workpiece as the vise is closed. This allows for a secure and precise grip without the need for shims or wedges.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Swivel Mechanism:
  The back jaw is designed to pivot, allowing it to rotate around a central axis.
• Pin Removal:
  A pin (or pin assembly) is typically used to lock the back jaw in a fixed position. Removing this pin allows the jaw to swivel.
• Adjustable Gripping:
  As the vise is closed, the back jaw rotates to conform to the shape of the workpiece, creating a secure grip.
• Versatility:
  This design is particularly useful for gripping tapered objects, pipes, or anything with an uneven surface.
• No Need for Shims:
  Unlike regular vises that may require shims to compensate for uneven shapes, a swiveling back jaw vise can often grip objects directly without additional tools.

 

[Shiftless]

Here are some examples to illustrate that explanation.

 

[Leon bee]

Now I need one of those.

 

[Shiftless]

That’s the thing about Garage Journal… some random stranger showing you something you didn’t even know existed and now you just gotta have one.

 

[Beerhippie]

I had an ancient (honestly--1911) Reed 404 1/2 in the shop for years. I always wondered what the big nut behind the static jaw was there for, but, seeing as it was seized up from a century of rust, never could figure it out.

Then I came to GJ....

 

[alex03281996]

Does anyone have dimensions to share for the Reed 404 1/2 pin that holds the swivel jaw in place? I want to fab a replacement that looks original.

 

[senlow]

I had an ancient (honestly--1911) Reed 404 1/2 in the shop for years. I always wondered what the big nut behind the static jaw was there for, but, seeing as it was seized up from a century of rust, never could figure it out.

Then I came to GJ....

Great year!

 

[Beerhippie]

Great year!

Yer birth year?

 

[larry_g]

Does anyone have dimensions to share for the Reed 404 1/2 pin that holds the swivel jaw in place? I want to fab a replacement that looks original.

Reed 403 1/2 A

Hey folks, Question regarding my Reed 403 1/2 A. Unfortunately it’s missing the tapered steel pin for the swivel jaw, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a source where I could find one, or anyone has made these on a lathe? Other than that, does anyone know original paint colors for these?

www.garagejournal.com

I think your information is in the above thread.

 

[senlow]

Yer birth year?

Damn, how'd you know???

 

[Beerhippie]

Damn, how'd you know???

I remember the birth announcement in the paper.

 

[neilreeveszz]

Yeah, my grandson saw that announcement and told me about it.

 

[psu8865]

Hollands and Reed were both in operation at the same time in Erie about a mile from each other on the west side of Erie. I grew up in Erie and have a Hollands 24 and a Reed 204- both I found at flea markets here in NJ where I now live. Erie tool works was about 4 blocks down the road from Hollands and bought them in 1959. Griswold cast iron cookery was 2 blocks west of Erie tool works at the same time period. Urick Foundry just a few blocks from the old Griswold plant is the ductile iron foundry for Ridgid pipe wrenches- they are cast there and trucked to Ohio for machining and assembly. 40 miles to the south is Channellock and 50 miles to the east across the state line was Jamestown NY with Crescent and JP Danielson. Cornwell still haas a small forge about 20 miles southwest of Erie and I believe Matco still makes all their boxes in Jamestown. Lots of tool lore in that sliver of country.