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Best 18V lithium-ion Cordless Drill?

ManCave

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So....I'm going to buy a new cordless drill. My current drill is a Ridgid. Batteries are shot so I need to send it in (lifetime warranty) for a new set. Even so, its a 12v nicad. I have a hankerin' to buy a new 18v.

I'm leaning towards a milwaukee. Just wondering what your experience has been with different brands?

I had to rent a hammer drill about 2 weeks ago for some concrete work. Now I see they have small cordless hammer drills. I'm wondering how practical those are? I doubt it would have enough power for drilling concrete. Not sure what other use they might have. Should I go hammer drill or just a standard drill? Mostly I'll be using it for driving screws.

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I have an 18V Bosch cordless hammer drill and I love it. I use it mostly for drilling metal and wood(with occasional drywall or concrete/brick.)

I recommend it, Metebo, or Dewalt.


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Also of interest mines made in Switzerland it might not mean anything to you but considering Chinese made models cost around the same I see it as a huge plus. Also that can aid in resale after its old and worn out.
 

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About a year ago, I faced the same choice. After reading a dozen tests, I bought the Makita 18v compact LiIon kit (LCT-300). Amazon had the lowest price click here.

Impressive power for such small tools, and I use them daily in remodeling work & general repair work.

For the shop, I just bought the larger hammer-drill 18v LXT click here. Makita currently has a promo with qualifying kits like this, and sends an extra battery at no charge. Much heavier than the compact, longer runtime, more power.

Both are best in class, according to every test I read.
 

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Im a big Bosch fan, I have the same hammer drill (Switzerland made), along with an impact driver and regular drill (Malaysia made)
 

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i have a milwaukee m18 set with drill and impact driver. the drill is ok, not as solid as id like, but the impact is great. they offer the impact with a hammer drill as well. i paid 200 for my set and have been more than happy with it. i may buy the fullsize drill, as well as circular saw and possibly some other add on tools soon.
 

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For concrete buy a SDS rotary hammer if you need to drill holes 3/8" or larger. Cordless hammer drills **** on concrete just like corded ones do.

I currently own 7.2v IR, 14.4v Makita and IR, and V18 Milwaukee cordless drills. Am happy with all 4. The only pro cordless drill I've been unhappy with was a Bosch which had gearbox problems. That was 15 years ago.
 

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makita. Mine is the impact driver version, but all of the tests i saw put it right at the top of the heap. Plus it just feels the best in your hand by far. Such a comfy grip. A co worker has one that he's used for a very long time. Has never let him down. He still loves his.
 

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18v is overkill for a drill. Unless you want the batteries to interchange with other tools or you need hammerdrill capability there is no reason to have an 18V drill. They are overly big and heavy.

I'd go for a 14.4 volt Panasonic. It'll outperform most all other 18V's.

Or a 12 volt compact Bosch.
 

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i just got the makita 18v hammer drill impact gun combo for somewhere around 380.00 I love it its is so powerful and does everything i need it to do. great buy 3 batteries and a charger.
 

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About a year ago, I faced the same choice. After reading a dozen tests, I bought the Makita 18v compact LiIon kit (LCT-300). Amazon had the lowest price click here.

Impressive power for such small tools, and I use them daily in remodeling work & general repair work.

For the shop, I just bought the larger hammer-drill 18v LXT click here. Makita currently has a promo with qualifying kits like this, and sends an extra battery at no charge. Much heavier than the compact, longer runtime, more power.

Both are best in class, according to every test I read.

Are the batteries for the white Makita and Blue Makita drills interchangeable? For some reason I didn't think they were.
 
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ManCave

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Wow! Thanks so much for all the great suggestions. Most helpful!

For you guys with the impact drivers, do you ever use the impact on stubborn screws when the bit is wanting to jump/spin in the screw head? I frequently drive 3 inch screws. I don't know if the new #2 bits are made out of lousy metal these days or what but it seems like after about 6 screws the bit will start to slip and then gets progressively worse until I need to toss it. I have to really lean into the screws sometimes. Just wondering when you would typically use the impact feature.
 

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I totally agree with the Makita fans on here. The LXT211 is the kit I just upgraded to from my trusty old 9.6.It has the larger 3.0 amp hour batteries. Amazon now has it on sale for $290.00 approx. with free shipping.
 
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I have a milwaukee 18v li-ion set and love it. Battery life in the impact driver is great but the drill seems to drain batteries a little quicker. I use a ridgid 18v set at work and it's a nice set as well though I find the milwaukee has a little more torque in the impact driver than the ridgid(might be a little biased because i paid money for the milwaukee set and work paid for the Ridgid set..lol)

what kind of bits are you using? if you're having issues with Robertson (square) bits, get the hardened ones. They cost a little more but they're worth it. Lee Valley (not sure if you have them where you are) has a nice set called "the original Robertson bits". they come with a selection of #1, 2 and 3 robertson bits. I installed all the OSB wall and ceiling board in my detached 24x24 garage along with the floorboard in the storage loft with one bit and the bit is still good. I have some more hardened ones that I picked up locally and they last well also. If you're looking for other types of bits, I got a 29 pice set of Milwaukee shockwave bits free with a 12v kit I bought a while ago and it came with various phillips and flat bits that seem to be holding up very well. In short, stay away from the $9.99 bit sets that are in the flyers every week from big box stores.

little long winded, but I hope this helps!!
 

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Wow! Thanks so much for all the great suggestions. Most helpful!

For you guys with the impact drivers, do you ever use the impact on stubborn screws when the bit is wanting to jump/spin in the screw head? I frequently drive 3 inch screws. I don't know if the new #2 bits are made out of lousy metal these days or what but it seems like after about 6 screws the bit will start to slip and then gets progressively worse until I need to toss it. I have to really lean into the screws sometimes. Just wondering when you would typically use the impact feature.

I drive screws all day the impact feature makes a huge difference

I work in/on large commercial jobs and have worked construction for the last 25 years

I use a lot of corded tools for work/home,

but I also use a lot of cordless stuff at work/home too

Most of the stuff I use at work is company supplied (so it gets very very abused) none of the guys give a **** about taking care of tools since the company will just buy new ones if they break

With that said at work we use mostly Dewalt 18vt products,
They are heavy, the batteries take a long time to charge and they are/feel clunky in your hands,
but they are pretty durable the guys at work just beat the **** out of them an they keep going.
I think the thing I dislike most about Dewalt there's no belt hooks on the tools so you have to set them down somewhere if you need both hands and that can be a pain when your framing a soffit off of a lift 25 feet in the air.
They do weigh a lot too after 8 hours of it in your hand you know it.

Lately we have been switching over to Makita products and the new Makita products are very very nice,
Compact, light weight, fast battery charges, very powerful and they most all have a belt hook of some sort
The only bad side to the Makita products is the price, they are pretty expensive on the scale of cordless tools

At home/side jobs all I use is Ryobi products when I first started buying Ryobi products price was my only concern but...
I've had no complaints with Ryobi products, Some of my Ryobi is 10 years old at this point
I started buying the Lithion Sets last year when they were introduced because HomeDepo/Ryobi had some ridiculous intro sales
The Ryobi Lithon Batteries do charge faster than the reg batts and they are lighter but that's about it, at 80$ a battery (Lithion) vs 40$ for 2 (Reg)
I don't know that it's worth the upgrade unless you can get a deal on a set
No belt hook on Ryobi stuff either that's about the one thing that bothers me

Sorry to ramble so in review

Dewalt 18vt- Heavy, Clunky in hands, Large, No belt hook,
Expensive, Replacement batteries expensive, Very durable

Makita 18vt- Light, Feels great in hand, Small, Has a Belt hook
On the end of more/most Expensive, Replacement batteries expensive, Haven't used them long enough for durabilty

Ryobi 18vt- Medium weight, Feels good in hands, Fairly small, No belt hook
Inexpensive, Replacement Batteries inexpensive, Very durable

Ryobi 18vt Lithion- Light, Feels good in hands, Fairly small, No belt hook
Mid range price, Replacement batteries expensive, Very durable
 

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whats the oppinion on hitachi? i got a great deal on an open box 18v lithium model and trying to decide to keep or sell. I havent used it to tell for myself as it came without the charger. i planned on buying the 18 impact as i want a cordless impact and that way id also have a charger
 

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I bought the Milwaukee impact driver 2450-20 last month. I highly recommend this driver. Great tool, battery lasts a long time. I was driving 3 and 4" screws for hours without a recharge. Driving into 4" posts for a workbench. No hestitation.

I had bought the Craftsman right angel impact driverdrill, I gave up after 30 minutes and headed to town to take it back. It was not what I wanted.

The Milwaukee drill is wonderful. No comparison.

Happy driving!!
 
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Milwakee V18, older style with Jacob's all metal chuck. I hate their newer M18.
 

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I have a Hitachi DS18DFL. Use it all the time for everything. Battery life is good, the drill is super light weight has a belt hook. I really like it, but I HATE with a passion the chuck. If you aren't using hex bits it has a hard time gripping normal drill bits. They work ok in wood, but in metal it will tend to slip. I have thought about just buying a better chuck and putting it on this drill. Should make a nice little upgrade. MIght even buy one for dad as a Chrstimas gift.
 

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Don't get me wrong I like cordless tools; I should seeing how many I own. I am starting to like the corded tools all over again, because it is cheaper then constantly buying those $90.00 dollar dewalt batteries.

Even if I pay some $50.00 dollars and have them rebuilt,the corded tools are starting to look good. Just my two cents.:beer:
 

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How about the new Panasonic "Tough Tool" drill, ok only 14.4V but 3.3 AH and "water-proof" (+ dust-proof /IP 56 )

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I bought this set on sale for $ 200 last christmas, and have ditched my dewalt forever!

In my opinion, its the best 18v cordless line on the market. The little impact has plenty of power too.

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I bought this set on sale for $ 200 last christmas, and have ditched my dewalt forever!

In my opinion, its the best 18v cordless line on the market. The little impact has plenty of power too.

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I have the same setup (got it for xmas too.) Hands down the best drill I've ever owned. The batteries last a long time and they charge super quick. I'm looking to get a matching small circ saw for little jobs.:thumbup:
 

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I've had a great experience with the milwaukee m18 hammer drill. The warranty is great too... not saying its the best drill out there but in terms of performance it works great for me. plus it seems like there are special sales on them quite a bit, at least in my area so its a pretty good value when you can get in on it at the right time.
 

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Makita lxt 18v hammer drill. Li--ion is amazing with tons of power.
 
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I totally agree with the Makita fans on here. The LXT211 is the kit I just upgraded to from my trusty old 9.6.It has the larger 3.0 amp hour batteries. Amazon now has it on sale for $290.00 approx. with free shipping.

Guess who is the proud owner of a new Makita driver and a hammer drill (LXT211 combo pack) :bounce:

I ended up with such a deal I couldn't say no to it. I was reading the reviews on the link Rudy posted and someone mentioned they had bought the LXT211 from Home Depot and then found a better price on amazon. They said they went back to Home Depot and Home Depot price matched and refunded the difference. The reviewer said he paid $264, I believe. So I call my local Home Depot and am told they don't price match internet stores. So I call the next closest Home Depot and they said they would price match it. So then I call the first Home Depot and say, "look, the other HD will price match but they are a longer drive for me. Can you price match and save me the drive?" The customer service person speaks to a manager and says they can price match. So I get both their names because I assumed they wouldn't be there when I was going to go there after work.

Meanwhile....I find another seller of the LXT211 combo kit on Amazon for $229. So I print it off and take it in to Home Depot tonight. I tell the new person on duty the names of who I spoke to and that they had okay'd the price match.

I think I did pretty well on price. The reviews for it were good and a lot people here liked it. I'll be spending 2 days putting up 24 foot long sheets of pole building metal on a ceiling in a couple weeks. I think that light weight driver is going to really shine when working so much over head.

Thanks to everyone who shared!
 

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picked this set up on a whim after walking threw lowes for some random stuff and picked it up for $250 and never looked back absolutely love the impact driver and surprised at how much power such a little cordless tool has and the drill has is very comfy to use and has chewed through everything i've worked on so far ... this was my first bosch purchase and surely wont be my last
 

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picked this set up on a whim after walking threw lowes for some random stuff and picked it up for $250 and never looked back absolutely love the impact driver and surprised at how much power such a little cordless tool has and the drill has is very comfy to use and has chewed through everything i've worked on so far ... this was my first bosch purchase and surely wont be my last

If you check out Lowes now they have that set priced at $199. I think it is a holiday price as I grabbed the last one at my Lowes last January.
 

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i would like to add some more m18 tools to my bag. one of them is the hammer drill just so i have it for quick jobs. but as mentioned i could be happier with the compact drill in my kit, and i am irratated that the xc batteries cant be used with the compact tools.
 

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How about the new Panasonic "Tough Tool" drill, ok only 14.4V but 3.3 AH and "water-proof" (+ dust-proof /IP 56 )

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That's what I would buy - the Panasonics have the best batteries and the best chucks out there. And they are tough as nails.
 

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picked this set up on a whim after walking threw lowes for some random stuff and picked it up for $250 and never looked back absolutely love the impact driver and surprised at how much power such a little cordless tool has and the drill has is very comfy to use and has chewed through everything i've worked on so far ... this was my first bosch purchase and surely wont be my last

I purchased that set back when it was first introduced (late 2008) and I spent $400cdn ($350usd). Price sure has gone down since then
 

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If you check out Lowes now they have that set priced at $199. I think it is a holiday price as I grabbed the last one at my Lowes last January.
i picked my set up about 6 months ago when it was on some special at the local store ... you'll be very happy with everything

:thumbup: Now you need a 1590 EVSK. :)
i really dont have any use for jigsaw with what i work on but i have been eyeballing some fatty batteries and possibly a 1/2" impact wrench to add to my small collection
 

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Guess who is the proud owner of a new Makita driver and a hammer drill (LXT211 combo pack) :bounce:

I ended up with such a deal I couldn't say no to it. I was reading the reviews on the link Rudy posted and someone mentioned they had bought the LXT211 from Home Depot and then found a better price on amazon. They said they went back to Home Depot and Home Depot price matched and refunded the difference. The reviewer said he paid $264, I believe. So I call my local Home Depot and am told they don't price match internet stores. So I call the next closest Home Depot and they said they would price match it. So then I call the first Home Depot and say, "look, the other HD will price match but they are a longer drive for me. Can you price match and save me the drive?" The customer service person speaks to a manager and says they can price match. So I get both their names because I assumed they wouldn't be there when I was going to go there after work.

Meanwhile....I find another seller of the LXT211 combo kit on Amazon for $229. So I print it off and take it in to Home Depot tonight. I tell the new person on duty the names of who I spoke to and that they had okay'd the price match.

I think I did pretty well on price. The reviews for it were good and a lot people here liked it. I'll be spending 2 days putting up 24 foot long sheets of pole building metal on a ceiling in a couple weeks. I think that light weight driver is going to really shine when working so much over head.

Thanks to everyone who shared!

Thats one hell of a deal!! Glad I could help. I think this is hands down one of the best tools I have ever owned.
 
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