Best cheap 1/2" Impact?

[DFB]

Ya pin style is good idea if your pretty much using just the one socket for lugs. Wont pull off either

If its speed you want any of the high torques will do it faster

For dollar value I think either the 3 speed Ryobi or even the HF Earthquake XT if you need a whole kit charger and battery

 

[driz]

That thing is $259 though. Way too expensive to leave at the track.

Yea. Nice it may be but when it comes to plunking down the bigger bucks for anything from HF


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[Voi]

The Ryobi mentioned is part# P1833. Probably not online though. It was an in store only product I believe. My store still has 6 up in the high shelfs not on display.

I'm confused. What is the difference between the tool in the P1833 kit and the bare tool P261? Unless Makita comes out with an inflator I plan to carry a Ryobi impact and inflator on four wheel rides this spring and summer.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-1-2-in-Impact-Wrench-Kit-P1833/302648209

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-1...-Speed-Impact-Wrench-Tool-Only-P261/205885687

 

[kythri]

Crazy, Are you aware that the company that makes Ryobi,Rigid, and Sears are all the same?Except Sears has the 19.2 volt, Rigid has the 20 volt.Same platform anyway.Ken

Buying into the Craftsman cordless platform at this time as a new customer is just not a wise idea.

TTI has already tried to stop supplying Sears, due to lack of confidence in Sears ability to pay the bill, and you can rest assured, SBD will NOT contract TTI to build new Craftsman cordless tools.

The Sears-sold Craftsman C3 line's days are numbered.

 

[kythri]

I'm confused. What is the difference between the tool in the P1833 kit and the bare tool P261? Unless Makita comes out with an inflator I plan to carry a Ryobi impact and inflator on four wheel rides this spring and summer.

There's no difference in the tool itself. The P1833 kit contains a P261.

The specs on Ryobi's website says it comes with a P108 4Ah battery and a dual-chemistry charger.

The pics on HD's page show one of the black 4Ah batteries, which are not P108, but appear identical to the P108 save for the color/badging. They just don't say "Lithium +" on them. I've seen a few of these batteries before, the model number is a P197. Rated same specs as the P108, just "not the same" - not sure what the deal is with these.

They seem to only be available in kits.

Either way, the kit is a great deal, it's the same as the bare tool, and the tool itself is pretty damned good.

 

[pbon]

Wow. thanks for all the posts - positive & negative.


As for what I'm doing at the track that requires changing tires 'all night long' - ran last night actually. iTrackMotorsports Drift & Grip. Sometimes we go thru a pair of rear tires in a single 15 minute session. Sometimes need to change tires in the middle of a session to not lose out on seat time, the tools get chucked on the ground away from the car and back in the drivers seat and belting up as we're rolling up to the start line to get back on track ASAP. I've lost a couple extensions and a couple wheel lug sockets that way. And a HF torque wrench. I've been mostly using hand tools, but when you go thru 6-8 tires in a night it gets old, and takes time. Time changing tires is sometimes lost seat time, and I like driving. It's not so much that I'm careless with tools - I have ~$20k+ worth of my own at work and don't lose them - but **** happens at the track. Just like barriers get hit, bumpers ripped off and doors dented. **** happens. Trying to minimize the expense of upgrading from hand tools is all. Chill out guys

Honestly I haven't even thought about used, and I don't even know why. An ebay Ryobi might very well be the ticket.

I did not think of drifting. 6-8 tires in a night would be an expensive hobby. If you can afford that and all the extra wheels, I think you can afford an 18V impact. It will make your life so much easier — hand tools get old fast. That and a $59 HF aluminum jack or two.

 

[Voi]

There's no difference in the tool itself. The P1833 kit contains a P261.

Either way, the kit is a great deal, it's the same as the bare tool, and the tool itself is pretty damned good.

Thank you. I don't have a Home Depot within two hours of me so I'd be ordering this site unseen. Is there a hard case or something that comes with the bare tool that explains why the kit with the battery is $20 cheaper than the bare tool?

Also, is this the normal price for the P1833 kit? I'm tempted to order now but I already have a Makita impact wrench and so I'm inclined to see if they introduce an inflator this spring. Of course I think the less expensive Ryobi still makes some sense for taking on UTV rides.

Thanks again.

 

[bubinga]

My Dewalt dcf887 with an impact adapter easily takes the lugs off my Nissan Frontier that are torqued too 100 foot pounds. I got the dcf887 used on eBay without a battery for under $50

I'll Be Darned, Im impressed that 1/4" impact will pull 100 Ft. Pd. torqued wheels.
That's a Bad A$$ little impact.
Have you also rapped them down and checked with a Torque Wrench?
Just wondering?

 

[kythri]

The bare tool will be in a plastic bag, inside a cardboard box with some cardboard packing material.

The kit will possibly come with a small canvas bag that would hold the tool, battery and charger.

The reason kit is cheaper is because it's a promotion, that's all.

 

[bubinga]

I'll Be Darned, Im impressed that 1/4" impact will pull 100 Ft. Pd. torqued wheels.
That's a Bad A$$ little impact.
Have you also rapped them down and checked with a Torque Wrench?
Just wondering?

The bare tool will be in a plastic bag, inside a cardboard box with some cardboard packing material.

The kit will possibly come with a small canvas bag that would hold the tool, battery and charger.

The reason kit is cheaper is because it's a promotion, that's all.

May as well Add my 2 penny's, Got mine right before Christmas,
The ryobi $99.99 kit)
and it did indeed come with the nice little bag.
I have to add, I was/am pretty impressed with that impact.

 

[DFB]

I'll Be Darned, Im impressed that 1/4" impact will pull 100 Ft. Pd. torqued wheels.
That's a Bad A$$ little impact.
Have you also rapped them down and checked with a Torque Wrench?
Just wondering?

There's a YouTube video out there that shows a Milwaukee 1/4 in impact driver with socket adapter originally outperforming the Ridgid 1/2 impact wrench (pretty much same thing as the Ryobi) removing some Dodge truck lug nuts. In a second video the same Ridgid wrench did perform better after using a bigger battery pack.

OP I know the spec'd wrench was 1/2 inch but HF also has 3/8" wrench kit for $169

 

[joshmodelskidoo]

i have the newest c3 impact and its alright. As said before the same as ryobi but have you seen the new power torque at oriley auto. It’s about the same price at the craftsman c3 but with more power. Believe it was 365ft-lb. craftsman also had the c3 impact at an outlet store for $71 and i think it could be ordered online but as said previously who knows where that line is going. Have you looked at Menards master force or performax brand or lowes kobalt brand? What about a corded impact?

 

[pbon]

That $99 ryobi kit is a great deal. I was just in HD and saw the kit at less than the bare tool price. I got the bare tool for my father in law last year. It takes lugs off his Suburban, Navigator, Jaguar S 3.0, and 53 Ford Truck. I just used it over at his house a few days ago. I personally have all Milwaukee.

 

[trekgod3]

I'll Be Darned, Im impressed that 1/4" impact will pull 100 Ft. Pd. torqued wheels.
That's a Bad A$$ little impact.
Have you also rapped them down and checked with a Torque Wrench?
Just wondering?

Not my video:

Yes, I use a torque wrench to make sure they're torqued properly

 

[kctyphoon]

I think I posted in here already - but most for your money on a decent impact right now is that Ryobi promo kit.. it's priced cheaper than the bare tool itself, and come with a charger and 4.0 battery. The battery alone is $79 retail, and the entire kit is still priced at $99, in store only if you can find one, and you'd better hurry up cause these are not normally stocked items.

To be clear - the Ryobi is advertised as having a pin lock. However it is not a "typical" pin lock design, meaning you DONT need a tool to remove the socket like you would on a real pin detent. It's "modified" so to speak, so it has better retention than a ball type, but doesn't need a tool like a real pin detent.

At $99 - you WILL NOT find something as good, for that price. It's even cheaper than hf's newest 1/2" impact sold under the Bauer line. For what you describe, this would be plenty good for your needs..

That said - if racing is important - and you need something better - then take your pick at the better brands, but your cost will be about $250 for a single battery impact from say Milwaukee.. better impact? By far.. stronger? God yes.. but for $100 the Ryobi will do the same thing. Wheels constantly being changed dont need an impact with 700 ftlbs plus..

Don't get an impact driver for this.. will they work- yes , but the wrench is what you want, and right now that kit is cheaper than a bare tool impact driver anyway..

 

[DFB]

Is there a link to this Ryobi promo kit at $99?

And is that an active price. I was looking online and I see most of the deals on Ridgid and Ryobi wrenches are out of stock at HD though I would assume they eventually be available but dunno.

Definitely don't expect a hex driver to equal an anvil wrench and you will probably snap off or twist more adapters than you care to know

 

[kctyphoon]

it's an in store only promo package, whatever is around is leftover from before Christmas.. hd did a horrible job putting these out on display so there's still some around..


But here- it this impact
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-1...-Speed-Impact-Wrench-Tool-Only-P261/205885687

Hold on.. I think I posted a thread in hot deals when I first saw it.

Here - there is a pic of the exact kit inside, first post.. this display was in the bathroom fixtures section of my store of all places.. I've seen them now on the clearance rack and on this same display in front of stores now. Not many hanging around, but I know 2 strores that do have them.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375626&highlight=Ryobi

 

[850xpeps]

I'll Be Darned, Im impressed that 1/4" impact will pull 100 Ft. Pd. torqued wheels.
That's a Bad A$$ little impact.
Have you also rapped them down and checked with a Torque Wrench?
Just wondering?

My makita would do the same. Nothing a quality 1/4” can’t do. They are amazing. I’ve never tried with new brushless but I don’t think buying a cheap 1/2” is the way to go. Maybe the dril is ok but I notice the quality in the charge and power my makita batteries has. Seen the cheap ones be junk.

 

[kctyphoon]

Ask yourself this - exactly what is the BENEFIT of buying an impact driver over an impact wrench - solely for the purpose of wheel swaps at a race track??

 

[Bluedodge]

It's nice of you to consider helping your wife with auto work, but why not do it yourself with a breaker bar, speeder wrench, and a torque wrench?

 

[Voi]

The entire kit is still priced at $99, in store only if you can find one, and you'd better hurry up cause these are not normally stocked items...

Silly me - I didn't realize this was the same promotional kit I called my nearest store about over the holidays.

I was just stranded in a hotel next to a Home Depot in Casper, WY and planned to go walk around but the storm cleared slightly and we decided to get back on the road. As it turns out it didn't do us any good to leave Casper so I'm not going to be happy if they have some in stock. But I'll call anyways.

 

[lbhsbz]

Harbor Freight just listed the Bauer 1/2" impact for $99

https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-hypermax-lithium-12-in-impact-wrench-tool-only-63629.html

Add a charger and battery for another $55

 

[kendogg]

i have the newest c3 impact and its alright. As said before the same as ryobi but have you seen the new power torque at oriley auto. It’s about the same price at the craftsman c3 but with more power. Believe it was 365ft-lb. craftsman also had the c3 impact at an outlet store for $71 and i think it could be ordered online but as said previously who knows where that line is going. Have you looked at Menards master force or performax brand or lowes kobalt brand? What about a corded impact?

The only PowerTorque one I can find at Oreilly is this one, which my commercial manager let me take for the weekend. It claims 20V, but looking at the battery pack you can see plain as day it's actually a 14.4. It's also a 3/8" impact with a 1/2" impact hex drive attached. it won't break the lugs free.

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/...less-impact-wrench/ptt0004/5688000?brand=true

 

[Katodog]

I work for O'Reilly in their warehouse. I haven't seen any of the new PT impacts at the warehouse, only saw a few at one of our stores the other day...didn't even know we had them. Didn't pay much attention to them, I'm waiting for some to hit our returns dept so I can snag them and try them out.

Since PT is one of those "who the hell makes it" brands you can't find much info about any of their tools. All I know is that Wilmar makes most or all of the PowerTorque/GM Performance/Performance Tool stuff that's sold by us. Haven't got a clue who makes the impacts.


As far as being 20v or 14v, charge the battery and put a meter on it, see what kind of voltage comes out of it. I'd be curious to know if there's any shady false advertising going on...

 

[kendogg]

I work for O'Reilly in their warehouse. I haven't seen any of the new PT impacts at the warehouse, only saw a few at one of our stores the other day...didn't even know we had them. Didn't pay much attention to them, I'm waiting for some to hit our returns dept so I can snag them and try them out.

Since PT is one of those "who the hell makes it" brands you can't find much info about any of their tools. All I know is that Wilmar makes most or all of the PowerTorque/GM Performance/Performance Tool stuff that's sold by us. Haven't got a clue who makes the impacts.


As far as being 20v or 14v, charge the battery and put a meter on it, see what kind of voltage comes out of it. I'd be curious to know if there's any shady false advertising going on...

I'll let you know on that tomorrow then.

 

[kctyphoon]

Good video comparison of the Ryobi vs some others

 

[mackie232005]

I think the best bang for the buck right now is the Harbor Freight Earthquake lmpacts, either the 1/2" pneumatic or the 20V lithium cordless.

I've had the pneumatic one for a few years and have no complaints. Haven't used the new 20v one yet, but all the reviews I've seen are positive.

I use a Ryobi 18 volt in the assembly of Side Loader Refuse Trucks! I go through two batteries in a 10 hour day! Bolts range from 1/4” to 2-1/2” hex heads! I got mine at the Home Depot about a year ago!
Your friend has shared a link to a Home Depot product they think you would be interested in seeing.

18-Volt ONE+ 3-Speed Lithium-Ion 1/2 in. Cordless Impact Wrench Kit

https://homedepot.app.link/bDc0VJmiQK


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[928'er]

That said - if racing is important

Drifting isn't racing any more than WWE is wrestling...

 

[850xpeps]

Drifting isn't racing any more than WWF is wrestling...

World wildlife foundation?


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[PR1Gneon]

Re: Best cheap 1/2" Impact?

Buying into the Craftsman cordless platform at this time as a new customer is just not a wise idea.

TTI has already tried to stop supplying Sears, due to lack of confidence in Sears ability to pay the bill, and you can rest assured, SBD will NOT contract TTI to build new Craftsman cordless tools.

The Sears-sold Craftsman C3 line's days are numbered.

X2. Go with Ryobi or Ridgid 5Gen brushless.



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[DFB]

Harbor Freight just listed the Bauer 1/2" impact for $99

https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-hypermax-lithium-12-in-impact-wrench-tool-only-63629.html

Add a charger and battery for another $55

Didn't even KNOW they had that one now!

 

[deberly12]

I didn't read every reply because I didn't have time but look for a used Milwaukee. I spent 300 for the high torque, 3/8 compact, grinder, charger, and 3 batteries. They all work great and would miss them all dearly.

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[bubinga]

That $99 ryobi kit is a great deal. I was just in HD and saw the kit at less than the bare tool price. I got the bare tool for my father in law last year. It takes lugs off his Suburban, Navigator, Jaguar S 3.0, and 53 Ford Truck. I just used it over at his house a few days ago. I personally have all Milwaukee.

Agree, again, I Am/was impressed with it, Price and performance.

 

[bubinga]

Not my video:

Yes, I use a torque wrench to make sure they're torqued properly

Thanks trekgod3

 

[bubinga]

Harbor Freight just listed the Bauer 1/2" impact for $99

https://www.harborfreight.com/20v-hypermax-lithium-12-in-impact-wrench-tool-only-63629.html

Add a charger and battery for another $55

One Fellow said, Well it was the , "Most Negative review"
"I bought this product with the intent on using it on the undercarrage of vehicles protective covers and what not, I tested it on lug nuts and if this is what you want to use it for dont , it is only good for low torque bolts."
but I'm wondering if he just got a bad one, as the other reviews do sound good.

 

[pbon]

If I wanted to spend more than twice as much, the HF Earthquake 20V 1/2 impact kit for $239 is the next best deal. Way more powerful than the Ryobi 3 speed kit that is in sale now for $99. But I have all Milwaukee and am happy even though I have gotten addicted and spent a lot of money.

 

[kctyphoon]

If I wanted to spend more than twice as much, the HF Earthquake 20V 1/2 impact kit for $239 is the next best deal. Way more powerful than the Ryobi 3 speed kit that is in sale now for $99. But I have all Milwaukee and am happy even though I have gotten addicted and spent a lot of money.

The next best deal, is you go online and find the gen1 Milwaukee fuel high torque with a single battery and charger for $240-$260 shipped.

 

[Tallpilot]

The next best deal, is you go online and find the gen1 Milwaukee fuel high torque with a single battery and charger for $240-$260 shipped.

That’s what I got. Then I bought a real Milwaukee 5.0 on EBay. I saved about $150 off the kit price and the only thing I didn’t get was another blow molded case I don’t really need to deal with.

I can’t remember now but I probably paid almost as much for my mid-torque bare tool.

If you are just joining the Milwaukee club the one battery kits seem to be the best deal besides the multiple tool kits that are heavily discounted occasionally at HD.

The ratchet, 2 battery, light and voltmeter kit at Northern Tool was the best deal I found on the ratchet and I really like the light.

 

[Tallpilot]

Or budget. Pretty useless to even respond...

That’s not true. We can just ignore their question and argue amongst ourselves. Or just watch KC and Music go at it.

 

[bubinga]

Re: Best cheap 1/2" Impact?

Here's a "new other" on E bay the Royobi 18 v kit
Sorry that was a 1/4" driver.
Can't delete post.

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