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jollygreengiant

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That corn looks dry enough that you could put it right in the bin?

We are still likely a month away from that here, even corn silage hasn't started next week. They figure that will likely start next week, that and early beans.
 
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cliftonbros89

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That corn looks dry enough that you could put it right in the bin?

We are still likely a month away from that here, even corn silage hasn't started next week. They figure that will likely start next week, that and early beans.
Yeah it’s definitely dry. Run the fans during the day. But don’t think we’ll need any gas to dry this year.

Silage has been done here for almost a month too. We had a super dry August. Everyone has been on the ball.
 

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We just got the combine out of the shed today!

We share our combine with a neighbor. They had 80 acres of short season dry land beans. I went and hauled a load this evening for them. They have another dry land farm that might be ready?

I also started irrigation wells today . . . . . .

Martin
 
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We just got the combine out of the shed today!

We share our combine with a neighbor. They had 80 acres of short season dry land beans. I went and hauled a load this evening for them. They have another dry land farm that might be ready?

I also started irrigation wells today . . . . . .

Martin
Several guys here are done with corn now. After today we’ll have about 88 acres of corn to go. Which, it is a little early for us. We were so dry, everything was dry. Some guys have been cutting beans already. We’ve got some they will likely be close in another week or so.

We got from 1.5-2” of rain week before last from the storm down south. Front is coming in tomorrow to finally cool things off a little. Supposed to be about 3 days of a chance of rain with it. We’ll see. Pastures could still use a good drink.
 

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We are very dry here, after a nice wet start to the season. We just keep irrigating though. I went down to Lincoln last week, and they are way ahead of us. I heard South of Lincoln is really dry.

It’s interesting to me to read your thread, and JBLNuts thread, just to see the different way things are done around the country.

Here everyone cuts beans first, and then combines corn. Unless you are doing high moisture corn for cattle feed. We won’t pick any corn for awhile. Probably well into October.

Last year we cut out first field of beans on September 8th.

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We are very dry here, after a nice wet start to the season. We just keep irrigating though. I went down to Lincoln last week, and they are way ahead of us. I heard South of Lincoln is really dry.

It’s interesting to me to read your thread, and JBLNuts thread, just to see the different way things are done around the country.

Here everyone cuts beans first, and then combines corn. Unless you are doing high moisture corn for cattle feed. We won’t pick any corn for awhile. Probably well into October.

Last year we cut out first field of beans on September 8th.

Martin
We started out with a bit of a wet spring. But we still go a decently early start. Had a good amount of rain and warmer weather to get things up and growing. Had a decent first cut of hay. But then come about late June it got dry and stayed dry. Had a few little shower August. But it didn’t amount to much. But looks like we’re getting a little change this week. Decent amount of rain today. Slight chance tomorrow, good chances Thursday through the weekend. Puts a hold on harvest. But some fall pasture would be good.

It even varies close around here. But around this area more guys are starting to plant shorter season beans earlier and earlier each year. Big part being wheat. A lot of guys are drilling more wheat after beans. Several guys are trying to make wheat a big crop for themselves. Yields 110-120. Then doing the big square bales of straw off of it and selling those to a big operation that makes the big rolls to sow grass on big highway jobs and government jobs.

But for us those shorter season, early beans just don’t seem to be quite right for our area and ground. So we still do corn first.

In our county we’ve got a couple big cattle operations. They’ll buy straw from several guys. Then they’ll often buy high moisture corn from other farmers for their feed. Then they cut majority of their own corn for silage. But there’s still a lot of corn gets planted here first.

But if you go not even an hour east to Illinois you start getting into bigger farms. Still do lots of dirt work, some 6-10,000 acre farms. Get into white corn in places. Little past there you start getting into places where they raise seed corn.

You go just an hour south, still in Missouri, you start getting into several thousand acre farms, all worked ground, big irrigation. Down there you start getting into cotton and rice too.

You go an hour west and it’s a lot of hay and cattle. Clay, poorer, rocky soils, forest like crazy, little rivers and streams all over the place. Also the first places to go dry in the summer.

But here a solid majority is no till anymore, with the exception of most of the river bottom ground. Wheat is getting bigger. But it’s mainly just yellow corn and soybeans. Used to be some milo, but there’s very little to none of that anymore. Then of corse a lot of guys do hay and cattle, just not on large scale. All these hills, nooks and crannies in between water and trees, it’s hard to do a whole lot or cover a lot of ground.

It is crazy to see the differences in how everything operates depending on where you’re at in the country, but you don’t have to go very far for it to be different. That’s why I’ve always liked driving for trips. Going to Colorado, Wyoming, Arkansas, Ohio, Wisconsin, New York, and some places in between. Even if we’re doing the same thing, it may not always be the same way.
 
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Pictures won’t load. But we started on beans last week. The June-August drought definitely had an effect on them. Yields on the hill ground are not good. Going to see if the yield in the bottom ground are any better.

I’ve heard good yields on early planted beans. But ours weren’t planted as early as those.

Cooler temps are on the way this week as well. We’ll be going from 80/60’s to 60/30’s. But maybe we’ll catch a little frost on those nights in the 30’s to knock out what life is left in the last planted beans so we can get them all knocked out soon too.
 
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Well it’s been quite awhile again. But it seems like things never stop.

We got though harvest. By no means the best. Corn didn’t turn out too bad. But soybeans were definitely not great. We wrapped up all the fall work pretty much by the beginning of November. It was a very dry fall.

But I thought I’d share a quick picture of yet another project and part of what’s also been taking my time. I’ve updated the tool business a little. So now I’ve really got to get after it to justify this.

Always tons of stuff going on. It was a mild winter here til the new year. Just over a week ago we got an inch of ice and freezing rain. Then a few days later an inch or two of snow on top of that. So that makes everything more difficult. Then by the end of that week, this part Friday we had about another 7-8” of snow on top of all of that. We’re supposed to warm up for a day or two. But then back down to blistering cold and below freezing for over a week.

So with the ice it’s been hell on us, hell on the cattle and hell on the trees. We’ve got tree limbs everywhere. In the roads, all over fences, and they’ll be all along the field edges this spring. I even had a pin oak in my backyard split and just barely hit my house.

I really hate winter.
 
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I was thinking you were short on farm help and going to get some big decals for the side of it that say "Free Tools Inside" and then drive around some suburban neighborhoods for a while. :lol_hitti
Well I could definitely always use another hand. But I’m not so sure it’d be the best way to find dependable help.
 
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Well, I’m not saying this is how this thread will close, but it’s certainly closing a chapter on part of this thread, and a part on the farm. Early this morning my father unexpectedly passed away. The farm was his whole life, and the only life he ever knew, it’s the only thing he’s done his entire life. After some unforeseen complications that came to an abrupt halt at 2a.m.

To be real honest, I’m not sure what the future will hold for me, or for the farm at the point. There’s going to be a lot of decisions to make in the near future, many that I wasn’t planning to make yet.
 

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Oh man, I'm sorry for your loss. I can't begin to know how you must be feeling right now. If you need to talk though, you know how to reach me.
 

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Damn. I don’t have the words Myles. My deepest sympathy to you and your family. I’ll keep you in my thoughts as you navigate through this time.
 
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Gosh, I am so sorry to hear this. Just tragic news, and my prayers go out to your family and friends.
 

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Sorry for your loss. Just lost my dad in December. It's a process....you just have to work through it.
 

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Sorry to hear about your loss. Prayers for you and your family as yall naviagate through this.
 

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My condolences

Take care of yourself and your family first for a while. It is dark now, but hopefully it will become brighter in a while. Wait with life changing decisions until then if you can.

You are at the start of a very long process. Let that process take the time it needs, use all available help and support to make it easier, but make sure that you and your family makes the decisions, let no others do it for you.
 

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These things will get sorted out, very sorry to hear of your loss.
Having followed your thread for a while I think we have a good Insite on how much your family values family, if that make sense.
Thank you for posting.
 

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Sorry to hear of this. Take your time to grieve before worrying about your next step, and take plenty of time for both.
 

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Dear God brother, that was a tough read. Take care of yourself and the family, and if it's in you, do whatever you can to save that farm and pass it onto future generations. You only get one shot at that, so think it through well. Best of luck with whichever way you go.

(Hint: I don't live in SEMO because I missed my shot at doing the same, and I miss it everyday)
 

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I'm very sorry to hear of your Dad's passing. I wish you all the best and strength for navigating what comes next, because it certainly won't be easy.

Keep your family close. Just because they seem OK doesn't mean that they are. And look after yourself too.
 
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So, I’m sure some of you may have been wondering how things are going, how things turned out. I don’t really know how much of a following there was for this thread. Especially, since it was started almost 8 years ago and hasn’t been giving much attention in almost 3 years.

Things have been pretty tough since my dad passed away. There are a lot of difficult days. But as is life, you’ve just got to keep moving on. In the weeks following his passing we really had to sit down and look everything over and take things into consideration on how things were going to continue. I’ve been around full time for 17 years now. So obviously, I know how things run. I know how much things cost, I know what it takes to keep the daily/yearly works rolling. Dad never really shared the exact details with me on things, but I always say what was coming in and what was going out. I knew a rough idea on where we were at with things. What we had as far as income, assets, what we owed on things, what cost would be this year. I knew things would be more difficult than ever.

But, hiding in a corner, tucked away in the back of my mind, was something I’d tried to ask questions about. But, as often happens, I would never receive answers, or at least no real answers. The one unanswered question, was how settled were things with my dad and my uncle. In 2016, my uncle decided he wanted to retire, or mostly anyway. That didn’t include any selling of land exactly, other than my uncle receiving a portion of ground they owned together to be his own. But if my dad wanted to a portion of ground by his house, my dad would have to buy my uncle’s portion of that ground. In addition to this was my dad also buying out my uncle’s share of equipment, cattle, grain, the whole business side per se of the farm.

The details of this buy out I was never really shown, where things were at. It was never talked about. Also, one thing that threw a wrench in this was in 2017 when my dad was diagnosed with cancer and was really unable to do much of anything for majority of that year, which also included astronomical bills from doctors, treatments, and hospitals, even with insurance involved.

So after finally going through paperwork, getting copies of paperwork from my uncle, it drastically changed my thoughts, as well as my mother’s, my sister’s and my brother-in-law’s on how to continue. As it turned out a the sum owed to my uncle, doubled the other debts. Which was going to make it tough. Before hand, things were going to be manageable. But doubling it, that was the real hit.

The thing is it really comes down the a lot of the logistics. I had no one I could depend on full time, at any time of year, for help. It would be impossible for my to take care of the 125 head of cattle, plus 15-50 head of calves at a time, in addition to getting over 1600 spread out acres. Last year was not a great year. This year, if you know anything, markets are tough. It would be impossible to pay someone to help, provide income for me, produce income for my mom, and gain any ground on what needed to be done.

This was also longer just my decision. This was now my family’s decision. My mom, my wife, my sister and her husband. Not to mention, we had to do what was best for my mom.

Another part of this, was my uncle, not just what he was owed, but, the future of things with him as well. My father was only weeks away from turning 64 when he passed. This particular uncle just turned 76 this month. Second oldest of the 10 siblings and oldest boy. Not trying to put the horse before the cart, but if something were to happen to him it would mean we’d then have to deal with his 4 kids. All of which have never had anything to do with the farm. There’s a pretty solid chance they would want everything their dad is owed immediately, not to mention a likely buy out on my uncle’s shares of part of the ground. That would absolutely be the final nail if that were to happen.

Not to mention, my dad did not plan ahead for any of this. Everyone figured because of his cancer, and coming so close to loosing everything in 2017 that he would’ve been on top of all of this. But it was very much the opposite. I think that made him avoid doing it that much more.

So after feeling loads of regret, several tears, lots of sleepless nights, we made the decision. We decided that the farm was no longer going to continue, just a year after dad getting the farm officially listed as a Missouri century farm.

I kept the wheat ground, only 230 acres. Just cut it last week. Planted the second crop beans on it. But after the second crop beans are harvested, that will be it for me for crop ground. I had to make all the phone calls, all the meetings with the landlords, meeting with two brothers to rent our bottom ground we own. A lot of it feel on my shoulders.

This also meant getting rid of a lot of the cattle. Which, if there was a year to sell cattle, this was the year. Sold a vast majority of the cattle. Only keeping a total of 32 head, as well as keeping 4 heifers to keep to breed.

So, this has been tough. It’s tough to navigate. It tough to push through the day sometimes. It’s tough to be at the farm most days. Despite the fact there was plenty of days working on my own in the fields, hauling grain, taking care of cattle, working in the shop, I’d never felt alone. But it’s easy to feel alone there now.

There’s still been plenty to do around the farm. Taking care of the cattle was a big part early winter and spring. Hauling grain. Plus, taking care of everything that comes with these situations.

So I’ve also taken some of this time to see if I can make my tool business a full time gig for myself. But that answer is up in the air as well. I’m trying, really trying, but I’m still not sure if it’ll be able to pay the bills.

This didn’t meant getting rid of everything, with the exception of a lot of the cattle. We did sell the sprayer, but other than that it’s just been little items I’ve wanted to get rid of for a long time. Not that I haven’t had plenty of phone calls of guys wanting to buy equipment after they heard the news of me no longer continuing. As did the calls to landlords of people wanting to take over ground.

It may not be a complete end. We’ve discussed farming what ground we own possibly one day again. But that all depends on how things go the next few years. Not to mention it’s just tough to do it without him.

So, I was hoping to catch up with details of the last few years on here this year. But I think for now this is how, “Between the River Hills and the River Bottom” ends.

This was something I always knew was coming, I was trying to prepare for it. But I just always thought we’d have some more time. I didn’t think it would come this fast, or this soon. Nor did I think I’d feel so much guilt, failure, and regret with my decisions. But as my brother-in-law said, we’re just playing the hand we were dealt, and it just happens that it’s a **** hand.

So that is where life is currently at in Missouri. I guess we’ll see what happens down the line.

Thanks.
 
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