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SilverJimmy

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Quick question, is the OSB covering insulation or is it just there for more rigidity in the wall. I’m contemplating using OSB in my new red iron shop for a liner wall to protect the insulation and also provide a surface for mounting stuff. I think 3/4” T&G for rigidity screwed to the girts for the first 8’ up from the floor and I also plan on painting it bright white. Opinion?
 
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Boostingaz

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Quick question, is the OSB covering insulation or is it just there for more rigidity in the wall. I’m contemplating using OSB in my new red iron shop for a liner wall to protect the insulation and also provide a surface for mounting stuff. I think 3/4” T&G for rigidity screwed to the girts for the first 8’ up from the floor and I also plan on painting it bright white. Opinion?

It is covering insulation. I like that it's there for easy hanging etc but I won't waste my time and effort and tool money to paint it. No matter how many coats it will never cover, you will always see the "pattern" and it doesn't really bother me as is.

I am planning on later down the road skinning the whole inside of the shop in metal anyways so it will hopefully eventually get covered up.
 

LXCam

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Quick question, is the OSB covering insulation or is it just there for more rigidity in the wall. I’m contemplating using OSB in my new red iron shop for a liner wall to protect the insulation and also provide a surface for mounting stuff. I think 3/4” T&G for rigidity screwed to the girts for the first 8’ up from the floor and I also plan on painting it bright white. Opinion?
I'm going to disagree with B here Sterling. I did OSB on one of my shops for the same reason, misc **** hangability and protection. But its worth the effort to do a decent paint job with either a semi or high gloss finish. First reflectivity, unfinished its a light sucker upper. Cleanability, dust and cobwebs blow right off where as unfinished its there forever.

Now if you plan on covering with something else later like Mr. B, those points are mute. But if this is forever, paint it bud you'll be much happier.
 

RickP

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That was actually my grandfather's and then my Dad's and then he gave it to me about 5 years ago. I'm guessing it's a good 30-35 years old probably more. I remember it being in the shop when I was little.

I really like it. If I just have to cut one thing I'll run to the Bosch but if I am cutting multiples, especially repetitively, I'll clamp a stop block and just go to town. Much much faster than the chop. The head can rotate so you can rip but that's too scary for me haha. I don't do that.
I like the family history of your saw. I got mine used, but I think it's probably about the same age as yours (Toolkraft brand from Montgomery Wards).

I'm envious of all the space in your new shop, and that long saw bench is awesome! I'm glad you're taking the time to set up the shop the way you want it.
 
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Boostingaz

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I'm going to disagree with B here Sterling. I did OSB on one of my shops for the same reason, misc **** hangability and protection. But its worth the effort to do a decent paint job with either a semi or high gloss finish. First reflectivity, unfinished its a light sucker upper. Cleanability, dust and cobwebs blow right off where as unfinished its there forever.

Now if you plan on covering with something else later like Mr. B, those points are mute. But if this is forever, paint it bud you'll be much happier.

How dare....... disagreement on the internet, you've opened Pandora's box my friend 🤣

No I agree. I plan on covering it with metal hence the don't care right now. My last shop was painted high gloss white, and like LX said it was so easy to clean. I actually used to just sweep the walls with a floor broom in the saw room, it would knock everything off and look brand new again.
 

OutlawDrifter

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I'm going to disagree with B here Sterling. I did OSB on one of my shops for the same reason, misc **** hangability and protection. But its worth the effort to do a decent paint job with either a semi or high gloss finish. First reflectivity, unfinished its a light sucker upper. Cleanability, dust and cobwebs blow right off where as unfinished its there forever.

Now if you plan on covering with something else later like Mr. B, those points are mute. But if this is forever, paint it bud you'll be much happier.

I'm with you here...I rolled on 2 coats of semi-gloss white and would do it again. Every shop and endgame is different, however.
 
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Boostingaz

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The only thing I'm regretting so far is dust collection pipe placement. I should have put it quite a bit further towards the back wall. My mind measurement didn't realize how small relatively speaking my out feed table is and it's going to leave significant room between the back of the saw station and the black mechanics box on the back wall. Other option is I shim the saw up a little so that it matches the height of my "work table" and kind of combo that up and have a 12ft long out feed table ? It would be nice as I mostly work alone 🤔

I could then reskin the original smaller out feed table and place it somewhere else for small project painting to keep my work table looking so fresh and so clean clean.

What to do oh wise army ?

I don't want to be getting too close to OH door so that I have the option of having it open and being away from the rain and or being able to still pull small things in that bay for repair.
 

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OSB ***** up paint... So be prepared for lots of coats and you'll still have the OSB pattern visible. A cheaper grade interior plywood would give a more paint friendly and consistent looking exterior, if it's worth it to you is your own mental calculus based on how much one values their time and hates painting
 
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Boostingaz

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My third real shop is getting delivered next Monday, building guy said 3 semi’s delivering my new 50x99 Red Iron Shed! I have to trim trees and bushes so the 28’ iron on the forklift doesn’t tear them down! Going to be interesting if the truck driver isn’t able to back down my driveway. Popcorn may be needed!

As long as you didn't get the new hire I'm sure just like the concrete drivers they are all pros!
 
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Here you go.
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PO even sold us the furniture, which my wife loves. She’s done it up in “day of the dead” stuff.

I saw this picture and said "This has to be Texas" lol.....that's pretty sweet, great work and thanks for sharing!

How much does that project **** 🤣

First time I've probably been excited to work on a sucky project!
 

LXCam

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That’s really slick Gary. That hood has got to have something serious sucking in it and not your typical fractional HP hood motor. Does it have a larger inline fan up in the attic or roof mount one?

Stupid over the top BBG guys wanna know 😁
 

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That’s really slick Gary. That hood has got to have something serious sucking in it and not your typical fractional HP hood motor. Does it have a larger inline fan up in the attic or roof mount one?

Stupid over the top BBG guys wanna know 😁
The hood is a Ventahood and has dual fans. There is a 3rd fan in the ceiling. The doors to the house are inward opening French doors. If I close the doors, turn on all the fans and "slap" the door handle, the door will bang into the wall from the suction!! I have grilled fish in there and you cannot smell it anywhere else in the house!
 

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The hood is a Ventahood and has dual fans. There is a 3rd fan in the ceiling. The doors to the house are inward opening French doors. If I close the doors, turn on all the fans and "slap" the door handle, the door will bang into the wall from the suction!! I have grilled fish in there and you cannot smell it anywhere else in the house!
Very cool

Boosting, you got some more remodel work to jump on. And none of that sissy painting stuff, this time you get to do some ported hair dryers :deathmeta
 

RickP

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The only thing I'm regretting so far is dust collection pipe placement. I should have put it quite a bit further towards the back wall. My mind measurement didn't realize how small relatively speaking my out feed table is and it's going to leave significant room between the back of the saw station and the black mechanics box on the back wall. Other option is I shim the saw up a little so that it matches the height of my "work table" and kind of combo that up and have a 12ft long out feed table ? It would be nice as I mostly work alone 🤔

I could then reskin the original smaller out feed table and place it somewhere else for small project painting to keep my work table looking so fresh and so clean clean.

What to do oh wise army ?

I don't want to be getting too close to OH door so that I have the option of having it open and being away from the rain and or being able to still pull small things in that bay for repair.
Have you thought about turning the saw around (180) and pointing the outfeed table toward the front of the shop?

Another option (not a great one) would be to move the saw back about 3 feet, and left about a foot. Then route the dust collection pipe around the base of the saw with three 90s. You could even make it a "feature" by covering it with a raised platform and using it to teach the kids how to use the saw safely as they get older. My dust collection hose runs across the floor behind my saw as a "temporary" setup (for the last 12 years). Like I said, not really a great option, but it would work...

It would be nice to avoid raising your saw by too much. Is your work table only slightly higher?
 
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Boostingaz

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Have you thought about turning the saw around (180) and pointing the outfeed table toward the front of the shop?

Another option (not a great one) would be to move the saw back about 3 feet, and left about a foot. Then route the dust collection pipe around the base of the saw with three 90s. You could even make it a "feature" by covering it with a raised platform and using it to teach the kids how to use the saw safely as they get older. My dust collection hose runs across the floor behind my saw as a "temporary" setup (for the last 12 years). Like I said, not really a great option, but it would work...

It would be nice to avoid raising your saw by too much. Is your work table only slightly higher?

Turning the saw around might be a good option. I hadn't really thought of that. I just had the flow in my head of carry in a sheet and slap it down not wall around with it first haha.

I think the table saw is around 34-1/2-35" and the table is 36". I know the difference is about 1-1/2".
 

tj675

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The only thing I'm regretting so far is dust collection pipe placement. I should have put it quite a bit further towards the back wall. My mind measurement didn't realize how small relatively speaking my out feed table is and it's going to leave significant room between the back of the saw station and the black mechanics box on the back wall. Other option is I shim the saw up a little so that it matches the height of my "work table" and kind of combo that up and have a 12ft long out feed table ? It would be nice as I mostly work alone 🤔

I could then reskin the original smaller out feed table and place it somewhere else for small project painting to keep my work table looking so fresh and so clean clean.

What to do oh wise army ?

I don't want to be getting too close to OH door so that I have the option of having it open and being away from the rain and or being able to still pull small things in that bay for repair.

A big outfeed table that doubles as a huge assembly table would be my vote.

I wish my 5ft by 6ft outfeed table was double the size.
 

DennisK59

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Why not make offset brackets at the end of the table legs and raise the wheels and lower the table.
 
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Boostingaz

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Why not make offset brackets at the end of the table legs and raise the wheels and lower the table.

I don't have a welder here yet. Gave it back to my dad in PHX. The table besides the top is solid steel and probably 400-500lbs +. It came out of an auto body shop, it was a chassis cart that I changed into a work table. They used it to frame off roll around car bodies on for repairs. Without the welder I'm kind stuck on raising the saw instead.
 
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Boostingaz

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I hope your pup is okay. Whay is that green stuff?

It's a rat/mouse poison block. They are usually in little plastic maze type boxes so this is less likely to happen but I didn't know there were some sitting out open. Hadn't looked in every nook and cranny of the barn yet.

For $538 they made her vomit then fed her charcoal and sent her home with an RX of Vitamin K1 for the next 30 days.

Hopefully it's a one off situation but I'll be ordering some charcoal so keep in the first aid kit.
 
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Boostingaz

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Why not make offset brackets at the end of the table legs and raise the wheels and lower the table.

Now that I'm thinking. I need to go back and look at my order history. Those I believe are 6" casters. I could change them out to a 5" caster and theoretically "gain" about an inch. That would put me within 1/16-1/8. 🤔
 

OutlawDrifter

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Now that I'm thinking. I need to go back and look at my order history. Those I believe are 6" casters. I could change them out to a 5" caster and theoretically "gain" about an inch. That would put me within 1/16-1/8. 🤔

Wouldn't it be closer to 1/2" "gain", since you're only gaining the radius vs the diameter? That's just my nerd math brain thinking...
 
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