Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT British Garage planned
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Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
Started on the liquid dpm to tie the floor dpm and the bit on top of the brick together. Not a lot of time before work today as more errands to do (bought some handles and hinge bolts/dog bolts for the doors).
A bit of sad news as well, the lovely neighbour I mentioned a few posts back who had been diagnosed with kidney cancer passed away peacefully in his sleep yesterday. At least he and his family did not suffer for an extended length of time. I'm really going to miss our lengthy chats over the fence.
A bit of sad news as well, the lovely neighbour I mentioned a few posts back who had been diagnosed with kidney cancer passed away peacefully in his sleep yesterday. At least he and his family did not suffer for an extended length of time. I'm really going to miss our lengthy chats over the fence.
1/2 Cup
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Sad news, our thoughts are with you..
RSOllie
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Looking good
I see the tripod light in the corner, dark nights with no elec is a bit*h aint it lol
I see the tripod light in the corner, dark nights with no elec is a bit*h aint it lol
Working lates at the moment but the light helps in the mornings as there's not much natural light and it's too cold to leave the doors open. Plus it gives off a lot of heat, started this morning and the temp was 30F. Just finished and it's a balmy 40F.
Finished painting the liquid DPM
The flooring and panelling will tidy up the edges eventually.
Got to get ready for work now........
Had to leave for work while the liquid dpm was still 'tacky' in places so had to close and lock the doors anway. Opened them this morning and the bristles on the draught excluders have stuck to it in places. A little extra work to clean them up and repaint the dpm in places but no great hassle.
Working today but then I've got 2 days off so hope to get the following jobs done:
Mask off the windows.
Fit hinge bolts to all doors.
Sand mahogany doors to remove painted varnish.
Stain/preserve all the wood (inside and out).
Jetwash floor in readiness for sealing it to reduce dust.
Mask off the windows.
Fit hinge bolts to all doors.
Sand mahogany doors to remove painted varnish.
Stain/preserve all the wood (inside and out).
Jetwash floor in readiness for sealing it to reduce dust.
Masked off the windows and fitted the hinge bolts.
Tested the stain sprayer and it didn't want to play so reverted to the tried and tested but slow method of using a brush!
Hinge bolts (crappy pic!):
All three hinges on all four alley-facing doors now have the hinge bolts fitted:
So, shortly after I moved in 4 yrs ago this is what the space looked like:
This is how it looked earlier today:
All stained bar the doors:
As it looks now:
Only had time to do that gable end today. I'll do the rest as and when I get the time but as this is the side that gets all the sun and weather I took advantage of a nice clear day to get it done. I'll probably use the same stain for the sides but maybe a darker one for the end with the window to closer match the mahogany doors.
Tested the stain sprayer and it didn't want to play so reverted to the tried and tested but slow method of using a brush!
Hinge bolts (crappy pic!):
All three hinges on all four alley-facing doors now have the hinge bolts fitted:
So, shortly after I moved in 4 yrs ago this is what the space looked like:
This is how it looked earlier today:
All stained bar the doors:
As it looks now:
Only had time to do that gable end today. I'll do the rest as and when I get the time but as this is the side that gets all the sun and weather I took advantage of a nice clear day to get it done. I'll probably use the same stain for the sides but maybe a darker one for the end with the window to closer match the mahogany doors.
Today it was time to prep the floor for the concrete sealer/hardener. As with most of these products the concrete needs to be clean, dry and free from grease etc. So, I started by clearing our all the stuff that had found it's way in there (my living room is full of this stuff now - thank God I'm single!).
Then I swept up all the major debris. Then it was time to deal with all the dirt and dust.
First I used a leafblower to blow as much of the muck out into the alley.
Then I went back and did it again.........and then again. By this time there wasn't much visible dust being blown about so I decided to start with the pressure washer.
The amount of filth this digs out of the concrete is amazing! It took at least four passes with the washer before the water was running clean.
Not having a squeegy handy I used the leafblower again to blow as much of the water out as possible - this was surprisingly effective.
I then left the gaarge doors open to encourage airflow and left it to dry naturally. I won't have time to apply the sealant/hardener until afetr my neighbour's funeral next Wednesday so it'll have a week to dry out and I will not be in the garage during that time so no more dirt or dust hopefully.
This is how it looked:
Then I swept up all the major debris. Then it was time to deal with all the dirt and dust.
First I used a leafblower to blow as much of the muck out into the alley.
Then I went back and did it again.........and then again. By this time there wasn't much visible dust being blown about so I decided to start with the pressure washer.
The amount of filth this digs out of the concrete is amazing! It took at least four passes with the washer before the water was running clean.
Not having a squeegy handy I used the leafblower again to blow as much of the water out as possible - this was surprisingly effective.
I then left the gaarge doors open to encourage airflow and left it to dry naturally. I won't have time to apply the sealant/hardener until afetr my neighbour's funeral next Wednesday so it'll have a week to dry out and I will not be in the garage during that time so no more dirt or dust hopefully.
This is how it looked:
Also picked this up for £10 - brand new locking steel drawer assembly. The grey section bolts/screws to the underside of a bench etc. It measures 17" front to back, 16" wide and 6" deep. The runners roll on ball bearings. It's also pretty solidly made weighing in at 14lb. Cost me about £3 in fuel to collect.
The guy said he had another exactly the same that he may sell. I'm waiting to hear back from him on that one.
I'll incorporate this (and hopefully the second one) in my workbench when I build it.
The guy said he had another exactly the same that he may sell. I'm waiting to hear back from him on that one.
I'll incorporate this (and hopefully the second one) in my workbench when I build it.
Grizz1963
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Really enjoying your progress Baz.
Buzz Lightyear
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That's coming along really nicely. I bet you can't wait to start moving in properly. 
Grizz1963
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Thanks mate, Still waiting for you to pop in here.....
My current contract only takes me to Romford in Essex, so I rarely go past your junctions.
However, I really do want to pop in on the way past your place, if you are in the country.
I've got the remains of the plum tree to bring over one day - could do with a fruit bowl actuallyThanks mate, Still waiting for you to pop in here.....
Need to let it dry out a bit first I suppose?This morning I gave the floor a second coat of the sealer/hardener. Used nearly all the 25 litres in the two coats. Got about 3-5 litres left which I'll spread out over any 'dry' looking bits tomorrow morning.
All that liquid being spread inside the garage has caused a fair bit of condensation on the ceiling, clearly the temperature inside the garage at night is higher than the outside (around freezing last night). I suspect the chemical reactions taking place produce some heat adding to the issue.
Hopefully once the sealer had fully cured and the garage has been aired out enough the condensation won't be a problem - likewise after the insulation and vapour barrier are in place.
I also went round and marked up where the electrical sockets/switches etc are going to go. Picking up some more insulation in the morning purchased cheap off eBay.
firecracker
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Nice looking garage Bazz
have you planned out the possition of your bench and other gear ? Oh and a nice chair/stool
have you planned out the possition of your bench and other gear ? Oh and a nice chair/stool Nice looking garage Bazz
I have indeed. A 10' bench under the window with another 4' section along the side wall forming an 'L' shape. The two drawer units will be mounted on the 4' section. The rest of that wall will be home to the tool chest and shelving for parts storage.
The opposite wall will have the displays on it, signs, pictures etc.
51rider
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Great progress Bazz!
I have been away from the forum for quite a while and am really pleased to see how much progress you have made.
I bet you were like a dog with two dicks when the shell went up
If, like me you have been scrolling through eBay for your insulation, add Seconds & co to your favourite sellers list and select the notification that tells you when they list items. Seconds & Co get all the rejects from Kingspan that may have manufacturing defects and sell them off at a good discount. Ideal for sheds & garages & also saves time & fuel bills running around to collect bits here & there.
Look forward to watching your progress.
I have been away from the forum for quite a while and am really pleased to see how much progress you have made.
I bet you were like a dog with two dicks when the shell went up
If, like me you have been scrolling through eBay for your insulation, add Seconds & co to your favourite sellers list and select the notification that tells you when they list items. Seconds & Co get all the rejects from Kingspan that may have manufacturing defects and sell them off at a good discount. Ideal for sheds & garages & also saves time & fuel bills running around to collect bits here & there.
Look forward to watching your progress.
RSOllie
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I need to do that to my floor as me dog harley has covered it in mud!!
What sealer did you use and what paint are u useing
There is so many different brands over here all saying theres is best lol
What sealer did you use and what paint are u useing
There is so many different brands over here all saying theres is best lol
This is the stuff I used. Goes on like water so soaks in nicely. Haven't done much else yet as work is getting in the way. Instructions say to wash it once it's cured/dried so that is next on the list - Friday probably.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181107512689?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Not going to paint it, just wanted to stop all the dust. Will be putting laminate flooring down eventually.
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Top tip this was indeed Henry! Just won enough Kingspan to do all my walls and enough polystyrene sheets to do my ceiling and shed. The Rockwool I've already got will be used in the ceiling as the poly boards are only 25-30mm thick. I'll use them to hold the rockwool in place.
Total cost inc delivery from Wales = £340 plus about £60 spent on Rockwool means my 600sqft garage and 24sqft garden shed will be completely insulated for £400.
I owe you a drink mate
RSOllie
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Ha ha i was just looking at this myself, sound good stuff and a very good price!!
I am painting over wich i think is fine
How much of the 20 ltrs did you use?
And should have remembered about the laminate!
It's 25 litres and my 600 sqft took about 12 litres for the first coat and about 10 litres for the second. I have noticed a couple of small lumps and bumps that I need to chip/grind away so when that's done I'll use the rest for those areas and any other bits that look like they need it.
RSOllie
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Should be fine for me then i will make sure it is paintable first though
51rider
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Top tip this was indeed Henry! Just won enough Kingspan to do all my walls and enough polystyrene sheets to do my ceiling and shed. The Rockwool I've already got will be used in the ceiling as the poly boards are only 25-30mm thick. I'll use them to hold the rockwool in place.
Total cost inc delivery from Wales = £340 plus about £60 spent on Rockwool means my 600sqft garage and 24sqft garden shed will be completely insulated for £400.
I owe you a drink mate
Glad I could help out a fellow GJ'er
Are you still working down near the Wandsworth Road?
Lippyp
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Great tip, saved em in my favourites as I'm also starting to stockpile stuff for doing my roof next year and insulation is definitely on the agenda as soon as it's done.
Now I just need two or three veluxes cheap and half a roofload of slate.
Lippyp
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I had a good tip from my brother-in-law about insulation this week. If you are buying kingspan type insulation new then buy the stuff they sell for cavity walls, its exactly the same stuff as the roof insulation just in smaller boards but its a fair bit cheaper as no one wants to pay as much to stick it in walls. He knows his stuff as he owns a specialist builders merchants and one of the things they sell is insulation.
I've already bought mine, just waiting for it to arrive. Good tip for the future though.
Today I finished staining the ceiling and also did all four walls (all on the inside). Tomorrow I'll do the inside of the doors and then it's ready for electrical and insulation.
If the weather is as good as it was today I might put a coat of mahogany stain on the gable that faces the house along with giving the mahogany doors a rub down and stain.
Today I finished staining the ceiling and also did all four walls (all on the inside). Tomorrow I'll do the inside of the doors and then it's ready for electrical and insulation.
If the weather is as good as it was today I might put a coat of mahogany stain on the gable that faces the house along with giving the mahogany doors a rub down and stain.
Finished the interior staining this morning and have also secured the timber to the brick with tapcons. Didn't bother with the mahogany stain as I'd had enough of woodstain for now! I did clean up the mahogany door edges and fit seals to cut down on draughts. This will of course prevent some ventillation so prior to insulating the ceiling I will be ensuring the small cavity between the ceiling and the insulation is well ventillated.
Currently there is a lot of condensation on the ceiling which freezes at night then drips during the day. I'm keeping the doors and windows open as much as possible to encourage airflow but in the current cold weather it's a losing battle. Think I might have to get a second hand dehumidifier before the insulation goes in - don't want to be insulating when it's damp.
Currently there is a lot of condensation on the ceiling which freezes at night then drips during the day. I'm keeping the doors and windows open as much as possible to encourage airflow but in the current cold weather it's a losing battle. Think I might have to get a second hand dehumidifier before the insulation goes in - don't want to be insulating when it's damp.
MG David
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I expect your slab is still drying out and the stain may be water based so that will increase the condensation problem for the time being.
Lippyp
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What might be better is whacking some kind of extractor fan in for the time being. As MG David said your slab will still be drying out so you're better off trying to pull the damp air out. A dehumidifier won't work in the cold either unless it's one of the (expensive) dessicant based ones. I have an old Ebac dehumidifier in my very damp garage running 24/7, as soon as it drops close to freezing it stops working. Heat and a dehumidifier will work much better or heat and ventilation. You could stick an extractor fan up in the apex of the gable end and a grille the other end, would also be useful in very hot weather too.
THE APPRENTICE
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Great progress Bazz!
I have been away from the forum for quite a while and am really pleased to see how much progress you have made.
I bet you were like a dog with two dicks when the shell went up
If, like me you have been scrolling through eBay for your insulation, add Seconds & co to your favourite sellers list and select the notification that tells you when they list items. Seconds & Co get all the rejects from Kingspan that may have manufacturing defects and sell them off at a good discount. Ideal for sheds & garages & also saves time & fuel bills running around to collect bits here & there.
Look forward to watching your progress.
Thats an awsome tip, you have sdaved us a fortune .I just had a look at there 150 mm sheets and the price is going to be hard to beat .Think i will find some space and start building up a stock pmsl Cheers