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Broke……..🤬 (Snap on) Update 8/8/2023

M635_Guy

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Agreed, you bought it, SO should take care of it. Usually mail is the easiest though if you don't have truck service.

Yeah - I have a couple shops that I'm tight with who have given me a heads up when whichever truck is rolling through if I ask (SO and Matco in my case). I haven't ever needed a warranty, but would expect exactly what the shop got.

My Matco locking flex is still stupid-stiff on the locking mechanism. I occasionally think about catching the truck to swap it out, and I'd bet there would be zero issues. If it were an Icon/HF tool, it probably would have happened a long time ago. If it broke, I'd be fine with mail-based warranty, though they'd be competing with Tekton in terms of service-expectation...

Don't waste too much of your energy - It astounds me how much flak tool trucks catch from people who literally do not use them.
I don't really count as someone who uses them, but I still think it's a business model that borders on predatory, at least in population centers of any significant size. I'm not questioning the quality of the tools, but there are a lot of techs that are far-deeper in debt than they should be when they could be putting money in a IRA/ROTH/retirement account and working just fine with lesser-but-good-quality tools that require a quick visit to a NAPA/HF/whatever on the way home for a warranty swap. It doesn't seem like tools breaking is a big problem these days either. And not in truck-branded boxes, either (at least until it's a disposable-income thing as opposed to a need-a-box thing) - there are so many good options (Strictly, Icon, etc.) that aren't the massive investment and are just fine.

/rant
 
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2ndGearRubber

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Yeah - I have a couple shops that I'm tight with who have given me a heads up when whichever truck is rolling through if I ask (SO and Matco in my case). I haven't ever needed a warranty, but would expect exactly what the shop got.

My Matco locking flex is still stupid-stiff on the locking mechanism. I occasionally think about catching the truck to swap it out, and I'd bet there would be zero issues. If it were an Icon/HF tool, it probably would have happened a long time ago. If it broke, I'd be fine with mail-based warranty, though they'd be competing with Tekton in terms of service-expectation...


I don't really count as someone who uses them, but I still think it's a business model that borders on predatory, at least in population centers of any significant size. I'm not questioning the quality of the tools, but there are a lot of techs that are far-deeper in debt than they should be when they could be putting money in a IRA/ROTH/retirement account and working just fine with lesser-but-good-quality tools that require a quick visit to a NAPA/HF/whatever on the way home for a warranty swap. It doesn't seem like tools breaking is a big problem these days either. And not in truck-branded boxes, either (at least until it's a disposable-income thing as opposed to a need-a-box thing) - there are so many good options (Strictly, Icon, etc.) that aren't the massive investment and are just fine.

/rant

I think most of the American population is deeper in debt than they should be, and would be better off putting more money away for retirement. Tools or not, I find most with out of whack finances are running from Aaron's on their couch payment, a repo man for the BHPH lot, and stacked up credit cards, plus the tool man. More of a symptom than a cause.

I wouldn't call it any more predatory than selling a washing machine with 6 months differed interest if you open up a credit card. Don't buy the cheap one, upgrade and pay it off over time! If that's how you're defining predatory, I 100% agree most debt based purchases which hide true cost behind "per payment" cost structures are predatory.

I would also agree that payment structures can inherently blind sound decision making, obscuring total cost.


EDIT: whenever my non-tech friends need a warranty, I usually just handle it for them. Much easier as the tool guy doesn't need to make an extra account to credit/inventory the replacement tool through.
 

AEAdam

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The difference is, unlike furniture or TVs or other items, Snap On extends credit to kids who can’t get credit so they can work. “Why not buy HF?” we all say. Because these kids have NO money and no credit and need tools to earn their first paycheck.

And no matter how deep in debt to a tool truck they go, it will only be a fraction of what their friends are spending in college.

Also remember, not so easy to get a job without a certificate. So some of these kids are buying tools while they are still in trade school, trying to pay for that. It’s part of their education expenses.

What Snap On does is provide outstanding tools to folks who can’t afford them, so that those individuals can have successful careers. I don’t call that predatory.
 
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