California Air Tools Ultra-Quiet Compressors on sale at Home Depot
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I was surprised to see my CAT10020 sitting at my front door today when I got home. I was expecting it to be delivered on Monday according to the amazon site. Luckily no one took it.
I was happy that the packaging was in good shape and there was no visible damage to the compressor once I got it out of the box. Seems a lot of people had issues with that.
Overall very happy with it so far. Most impressive thing to me was how fast the tank filled up, was not expecting that. Little louder than I expected, but not bad. Definitely enough to run all of my air tools. Think this will meet all my needs unless I ever need to paint a car or do some media blasting.
Thanks for posting, now I need to find a good hose reel to go with it.
I was happy that the packaging was in good shape and there was no visible damage to the compressor once I got it out of the box. Seems a lot of people had issues with that.
Overall very happy with it so far. Most impressive thing to me was how fast the tank filled up, was not expecting that. Little louder than I expected, but not bad. Definitely enough to run all of my air tools. Think this will meet all my needs unless I ever need to paint a car or do some media blasting.
Thanks for posting, now I need to find a good hose reel to go with it.
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cgv69
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Tell me if I'm crazy but I'm seriously considering buying the CAT 1610 to replace my IR DD2T2 twin stack compressor?
The IR is a great contractor style compressor and performance wise it's twice the compressor compared to the CAT model.
IR = 2HP, CAT = 1HP
IR = 4.5Gal/twin tanks, CAT = 1.6Gal single tank
IR = 4.4CFM@90psi, CAT = 2.35CFM@90PSI
IR = Oil Lubed, CAT = Oil-less
So why am I considering this? Because...
IR = 80-82db(?), CAT = 60db
IR = 65.4lbs, CAT = 35lbs
and the CAT is dimensionally smaller then the IR
So here's the deal - Neither one really offers enough output for impact wrenches, grinders, sand blasting, etc. so all I really use my IR for is nailing, inflating tires, blow gun etc.
I often have to move this compressor to where I'm working (especially because with the IR design, they don't recommend using it with extension cords) and often that work is in the house so the smaller, lighter and significantly quieter CAT model is really appealing. It doesn't have as much output but I'm thinking it should be enough for my needs?
My biggest concern is tank size? I know even with the IR's 4.5gal tank, it empties and recycles fairly quickly when using the blow gun or filling car tires so I would think that with the 1.6gal tank of the CAT, it would probably run almost continuously during those times?
I guess the other option is the CAT 6310? Same power and output of the 1610 but with a 6.5gal tank? It's only $4 more but the big down side it it's actually bigger then my DD2T2 and the weight saving aren't near as much. I would be getting a larger tank and compressor with half the output and only 15lbs lighter. So at that point the only major advantage is the sound reduction and I'm not sure that's enough by itself to make it worth the trade offs?
Lastly there is also the CAT 4610. Overall size the capacity are a wash with the IR. Same output and noise levels as the other CAT xx10 models and splits the difference weigh wise between the 1610 and 6310 but cost more then both of them. Compared to the IR, I'd lose 20lbs in weight and 20DB is noise level but would also loose about 1/2 the CFM
The IR is a great contractor style compressor and performance wise it's twice the compressor compared to the CAT model.
IR = 2HP, CAT = 1HP
IR = 4.5Gal/twin tanks, CAT = 1.6Gal single tank
IR = 4.4CFM@90psi, CAT = 2.35CFM@90PSI
IR = Oil Lubed, CAT = Oil-less
So why am I considering this? Because...
IR = 80-82db(?), CAT = 60db
IR = 65.4lbs, CAT = 35lbs
and the CAT is dimensionally smaller then the IR
So here's the deal - Neither one really offers enough output for impact wrenches, grinders, sand blasting, etc. so all I really use my IR for is nailing, inflating tires, blow gun etc.
I often have to move this compressor to where I'm working (especially because with the IR design, they don't recommend using it with extension cords) and often that work is in the house so the smaller, lighter and significantly quieter CAT model is really appealing. It doesn't have as much output but I'm thinking it should be enough for my needs?
My biggest concern is tank size? I know even with the IR's 4.5gal tank, it empties and recycles fairly quickly when using the blow gun or filling car tires so I would think that with the 1.6gal tank of the CAT, it would probably run almost continuously during those times?
I guess the other option is the CAT 6310? Same power and output of the 1610 but with a 6.5gal tank? It's only $4 more but the big down side it it's actually bigger then my DD2T2 and the weight saving aren't near as much. I would be getting a larger tank and compressor with half the output and only 15lbs lighter. So at that point the only major advantage is the sound reduction and I'm not sure that's enough by itself to make it worth the trade offs?
Lastly there is also the CAT 4610. Overall size the capacity are a wash with the IR. Same output and noise levels as the other CAT xx10 models and splits the difference weigh wise between the 1610 and 6310 but cost more then both of them. Compared to the IR, I'd lose 20lbs in weight and 20DB is noise level but would also loose about 1/2 the CFM
Super Sport
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Well I ordered it and submitted the price match form. I was able to get $40 back in points, so depending on how they adjust the price or my points back, it could come out to be a pretty good deal.
I'm planning on selling my little Craftsman 7 gallon that this is replacing for around $100, so I hope not to spend much out of pocket.
danny_barkley
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Anybody have a sense on how long this will run?
theoldwizard1
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To run grinders, cut off wheel or sand blasters you are going to need about a 5 hp compressor with at least a 30 gallon tank so forget any kind of "luggable" compressor.
While the price jumps a lot, the CAT 6320 is still very portable and quiet and will easily run an impact or air hammer (better quality air hammers use less air).
If you could find a used 60 gallon air tank and plumbed it in, you could grind/blast for a minute or 2 before running out of air.
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theoldwizard1
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So I am guessing it was NOT shipped freight. UPS, FedEx, or ... ?
vartz04
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Mine was shipped ups
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danny_barkley
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One of things I would like to purpose this for is running a 1/2" impact for lugnuts on my RV and Tow Truck while on the road. It would work doing that wouldn't it?
Let us know if you get the match refund. Once might be a fluke, but twice is the beginning of a trend and if sears.com matches homedepot.com as a rule that would be good to know.
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Super Sport
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Nope, already got the notice that they did not honor the match. I called and complained, but I did that earlier this year when they wouldn't do the price match so I knew it wouldn't get me anywhere. I canceled the order and gave them bad feedback on the experience.
Their price match policy isn't terribly clear on this issue, but you would think they would do it to help keep some business.
Wow that's bs. They matched it for me.
Their going out of business sale probably won't have any good deal, but it can't come soon enough.
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theoldwizard1
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Small compressors, even <1 HP, can run an impact gun for a short period of time which is typically all you need. Get a good impact, even if it is a HF Earthquake and buy a Sunex flip lug nut set. For a few bucks more you can buy the Astro Nano impact which is MUCH smaller/lighter. I would still carry a BIG breaker bar in the RV !
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cgv69
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I'm not looking for a "luggable" compressor for impact or grinder work. I have a cordless Milwaukee impact and a corded angle grinder that handle those tasks just fine. I just don't want to take a step backwards for the purposes I already use a "portable" compressor.
What I do want is a quieter, more portable compressor that can handle the tasks I use my current compressor for (nailers, airing up tires and the blow gun). I'll worry about something bigger when I get my next shop.
vartz04
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I would go with the 4 gallon at least. My 2 gallon fini compressor runs quite a bit with my 15 gauge nailer. But it's CFM rating is only 0.7 so while they will probably both kick off after the same number of nails the 1.6 gallon CAT will run for a much shorter time period
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theoldwizard1
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cat 6310
vartz04
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Got my 10020 today. Put it together and plugged it in. Man o man this thing is silent. I initially thought there was something wrong with it because it was too quiet. I have a fini advanced 2 gallon compressor that claims 69 DB but is definitely louder than this one. Or maybe just is perceived to be louder because the CAT runs slower
The only damage was the one fan guard was missing the screws but otherwise it's good to go
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Got my 10020 in as well. Awesome little machine. I can hook my IR 1/2 impact up and hold it full blast for a good 20-30 seconds before the compressor kicks on. The compressor will will keep up with the constant demand of the impact if held wide open, but it settles about 65 PSI. Runs my Sharp Finex FX1000 Mini HVLP gun with absolutely no problem.
I love it, time to sell my 60 gallon 220v beast.
The hose connections allow you to hook in a hose with 1 hand, just push it in and it auto locks. Very slick. My only concern is the cheap regulator that is built into the plastic manifold. If it goes, you'll probably have to buy another from CAT as it doesn't lend itself to installing a higher end unit.
I love it, time to sell my 60 gallon 220v beast.
The hose connections allow you to hook in a hose with 1 hand, just push it in and it auto locks. Very slick. My only concern is the cheap regulator that is built into the plastic manifold. If it goes, you'll probably have to buy another from CAT as it doesn't lend itself to installing a higher end unit.
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theoldwizard1
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I had a broken fan guard on my 6320A. Instead of buying a new one I carefully cut the center plastic "grate" out, just leaving the outer plastic ring. I bought some 1/4" "hardware cloth" and cut a piece to the approximate size. I carefully worked it into the inside of that ring, trimming as I went. A couple of well placed dabs of JB Weld and I had a fan guard that looked better that the original !
macgee
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Good info, thanks.
Marc Benjamin
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Just took the plunge on the 10020.
Only coupon I found that would stack is:
HDHOLIDAY - $5 discount on one entire online order of $50 or more made at homedepot.com only 11/23/15 -12/03/15.
Only coupon I found that would stack is:
HDHOLIDAY - $5 discount on one entire online order of $50 or more made at homedepot.com only 11/23/15 -12/03/15.
danny_barkley
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I just got my compressor tonight.
There is a short metal tube to the right of the pressure switch. It looks like it is a flare fitting or compression fitting. It is open with nothing connected. What is that for?
Anybody see any reason not to switch out the couplings to Milton V connectors?
Nice that it comes with a little ball valve on the tank drain!
@Marc Benjamin -- Nice looking Englsih Cocker!
There is a short metal tube to the right of the pressure switch. It looks like it is a flare fitting or compression fitting. It is open with nothing connected. What is that for?
Anybody see any reason not to switch out the couplings to Milton V connectors?
Nice that it comes with a little ball valve on the tank drain!
@Marc Benjamin -- Nice looking Englsih Cocker!
that could be the unloader valve to help starting the motor. It's usually connecting the pressure regulator/power switch to the check valve on the tank though
theoldwizard1
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Yes, it is an unloader, but it is NOT USED (why?). My CAT 6320A actually has 2 unloaders. One is electric and is attached to the check valve
The other is attached directly to the outlet of the pump.
The pressure switch, check valve, solenoid vale and many other parts a "generic" Chinese. Interchangeable with many ther compressors and available on eBay CHEAP !
Be careful disassembling any threaded fittings ! Any of the cast metal (like the manifold) is very cheap metal. Also they use epoxy for thread sealant. Some heat from a propane torch will soften the epoxy so that you ca unscrew the fitting.
timmyisme22
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Anyone notice this at Home Depot? 4.6 Gal. Portable Electric Air Compressor at $179.
Looks like a direct re-brand to husky from CAL. Claims a 65 decibel max level on the box (68 on website).
*EDIT*
Forgot the CAL version: 4.6-Gal. 1 HP Ultra Quiet and Oil-Free Aluminum Twin Tank Air Compressor
The SCFM is slightly lower on the website, but I can't remember if those numbers match what's posted on the box. God knows stores have screw ups for information posted. 3 years warranty though.
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Well ****. Video out comparing the two: Husky Silent 4.6 Gal. Portable Electric Air Compressor
by Tools In Action. Seems the SCFM is lower on the Husky.
Looks like a direct re-brand to husky from CAL. Claims a 65 decibel max level on the box (68 on website).
*EDIT*
Forgot the CAL version: 4.6-Gal. 1 HP Ultra Quiet and Oil-Free Aluminum Twin Tank Air Compressor
The SCFM is slightly lower on the website, but I can't remember if those numbers match what's posted on the box. God knows stores have screw ups for information posted. 3 years warranty though.
*2nd EDIT*
Well ****. Video out comparing the two: Husky Silent 4.6 Gal. Portable Electric Air Compressor
by Tools In Action. Seems the SCFM is lower on the Husky.
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timmyisme22
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From the video it does sound a bit louder than the CAT 4.6, but not by much. $40 less and 2 more years of warranty are nice. Still thinking of the 6310 though. I think it will fit better in my garage.
On this topic, which Milton V model number has threaded ends that fit the CAT compressor receptacles? I figured it'd be better to get the 3/8" NPT for the coupler side but wanted to check the thread end.
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Marc Benjamin
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Thanks Danny though mine's not a Cocker rather a black flat coat retriever who has a little shorter snout than the standard.
You're's though looks like it's really spoiled! ha!
IRQVET
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I have the CAT 2HP/ 10 Gallon air compressor and its performs very well. It did have a leak when I first plugged it in, so I called CAT and they shipped me a replacement part free of charge.
My neighbors all comment on how quite it is compared to theirs, I've owned hair dryers that are louder, lol.
My neighbors all comment on how quite it is compared to theirs, I've owned hair dryers that are louder, lol.
danny_barkley
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Beautiful dog, looked a Cocker from that angle. I like me some Flat Coated as well. Real tail waggers!
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Amazon has the California Air Tools CAT-1610A Ultra Quiet on sale for $155, but is temporarily OOS.
Looks like they are matching HD's price right now.
Looks like they are matching HD's price right now.
danny_barkley
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I got mine and it runs out of air quick. 10 gallons ain't much.
Do you guys think it will handle lugnuts on a Ford F-450? 165 ft #
Do you guys think it will handle lugnuts on a Ford F-450? 165 ft #
vartz04
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Gallons of available air has nothing to do with torque required to remove a lugnut. How are you judging how fast it runs out of air? What tool?
That said I would just try it. Depends on your impact gun but I would say you most likely could do 4 before it kicked on to recharge.
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danny_barkley
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I hooked up a 1/2" Snap On impact and free wheeled it and it ran that tank down pretty quick and started sounding weak real fast. I don't have the truck yet.
I wanted to get this small compressor to be able to work on tires from an RV on the side of the road. Needs to be able to air up tires that may need 110# and 165Ft/lb lug nuts.
vartz04
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Freewheeling isn't a good test. Wait til you get the truck I am sure it'll be fine.
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Marc Benjamin
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Danny, what size hose, length and fittings did you use? SO 1/2 MG725?
macgee
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I pulled the trigger on the 10 gallon. Figured it was worth trying out for the low price to my front door and can easily be returned to HD if they it doesn't stand up to the hype.
I am very much looking forward to some peace & quiet.
I am very much looking forward to some peace & quiet.