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I've brought this up before, but I'm still not aware of older, new posts (ie, earlier in the day or yesterday) - they do not show up as unread. I end up missing some discussions because of this.

Has anyone deciphered how this works?
 
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I've found that if I go into the topic and back out without reading the new ones (they do show as unread the first time in) that the next time I come in they do not show as unread, is that what you mean?

I end up having to look at the date and time to see if I read it. Don't always have time to hit 10-15 new ones each time in.

Maybe a re-fresh or clear un-read button if I got pages of unread to clear. I'll be on vacation for 12 days, I'm sure they're will be hundreds of new posts when I get back. Be nice to pick and choose, then clear unread post and start over.
The way it is now, once I go out, when I come back in all will be cleared. :confused:
 

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This forum does seem to not handle that feature quite as well as some of the others I've been on. Most will show you the new posts since the last time you were on - whether earlier in the day or from several days ago.

Here it seems to list a somewhat abstract number of posts - greying out the ones that you've already looked at. But if you leave and come back, some of the ones you didn't look at are also greyed out. And if you've been away for several days you'll likely miss some of the early posts in the time you've been away.
 
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PAToyota said:
This forum does seem to not handle that feature quite as well as some of the others I've been on. Most will show you the new posts since the last time you were on - whether earlier in the day or from several days ago.

Here it seems to list a somewhat abstract number of posts - greying out the ones that you've already looked at. But if you leave and come back, some of the ones you didn't look at are also greyed out. And if you've been away for several days you'll likely miss some of the early posts in the time you've been away.

Yes! Exactly what I'm seeing.
 
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Probably also the reason Ryan hasn't commented on this...it's dropped to the bottom on his Today's Posts! even though he hasn't read it.
 

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bmwpower said:
Probably also the reason Ryan hasn't commented on this...it's dropped to the bottom on his Today's Posts! even though he hasn't read it.
Well, let's keep pushing it back to the top so he see's it every day. I like being able to hit a "new posts" button whenever I come into a forum. "Todays Posts" just doesn't do the job as has been mentioned above. I, myself, would like to see a "New Posts" button added to the header....
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astroracer said:
Well, let's keep pushing it back to the top so he see's it every day. I like being able to hit a "new posts" button whenever I come into a forum. "Todays Posts" just doesn't do the job as has been mentioned above. I, myself, would like to see a "New Posts" button added to the header....
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What he said
 

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Humm... I can't seem to replicate the problem... When I click on it, it shows me all of the new posts since I was here last... What exactly are you guys getting?
 

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It works fine if it has only been awhile since you were last here and if you don't stay here long. If you haven't been around for a few days, you miss some of the posts - other boards have a "since last visit" rather than "last 24 hours" setup. Also, if you're on the board for some time, it decides that you have read everything and you lose the little triangles to go directly to the "new" posts in a thread.

Hope that explains it well enough.
 
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Easy test:

Go in there now and note which threads are new to you (bold).

Then wait until later tonight or tomorrow and check again.

Threads you never read will be marked as read (unbold).
 

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I think the issue is that it is "today's posts" instead of "new posts" like most other boards. It gives you posts from the last 24 hours, not the posts since the last time you visited. Not sure if it is something that can be changed easily?
 
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PAToyota said:
I think the issue is that it is "today's posts" instead of "new posts" like most other boards. It gives you posts from the last 24 hours, not the posts since the last time you visited. Not sure if it is something that can be changed easily?

PA,
It doesn't work that way. Again, it's showing read posts that have NOT been read. Run the function now and then run it again in 8 hours and you won't see the same list.
 
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Hmm... It has been working for me. There is a time limit, I've noticed. If you run the list and then refresh it twenty minutes later the "unread" posts have switched over to "read."

As for different lists after eight hours - yes, as new posts are made in threads those threads rise to the top. And - as above - "unread" posts become "read" a certain amount of time after you've list even if you haven't read them...
 
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PAToyota said:
Hmm... It has been working for me. There is a time limit, I've noticed. If you run the list and then refresh it twenty minutes later the "unread" posts have switched over to "read."

As for different lists after eight hours - yes, as new posts are made in threads those threads rise to the top. And - as above - "unread" posts become "read" a certain amount of time after you've list even if you haven't read them...

Exactly. 8 hours is an arbitrary number, BTW.
 

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Ryan -

You may already kknow how to do these alterations, but in case not, here's the change that will add the "New Posts" to the quicklinks menu - it's an easy template edit.


In the AdminCP->Styles & Templates->Style Manager->Edit Templates (edit either the default template or whichever you have tied to the forum)->Navigation/Breadcrumb Templates->Navbar


To put it first in line under the Quicklinks Menu:

Find:
Code:
<if condition="$vboptions['enablesearches']">
and Add After:
Code:
<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getnew" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[new_posts_nav]</a></td></tr>


OR to add it in the main navbar, say next to the UserCP button (this will only appear for logged in members this way - nothing there if they aren't logged):

Find in the "<!-- nav buttons bar -->" section (about 1/3 of the way down):
Code:
<if condition="$show['member']">
and Add After:
Code:
<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?$session[sessionurl]do=getnew" accesskey="2">$vbphrase[new_posts_nav]</a></td>


If this post isn't warranted or wanted, feel free to tell me to STFU. :spit:
 

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Ryan, if you're out there, please take a look at this problem again.
Good example. I logged on to the site. Went to the tool forum. There were about 8-10 unread threads. Clicked on the Irwin blades thread. Posted a response. Clicked on a link. Spent a couple of minutes on the link. Went back to the tool index, and all the threads were marked read. This is the only forum I have this problem on. Can't be too hard of a fix.(I hope)
 

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eat111 said:
I agree. "New Posts" section needed

A "new posts" button is sorely needed IMO. I thought I was the only one scratching my head on this! :headscrat
 

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Beegs said:
A "new posts" button is sorely needed IMO. I thought I was the only one scratching my head on this! :headscrat


You aint lyin'! We need a new posts button in the worst way. Who do we call to make this happen?:bounce:

Jimmy
 

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Helloooooooo? I don't know anything about running a message board but every other message board I visit has a new post button.
 
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If you look in the lower left corner of the screen you can change it to default style and the new post button will appear at the top. The new posts button is great!
 

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This must be new because I originally tried that and it didn't work. Probably has something to do with the other template being enabled.

I tried it once before too, and couldn't get it to work. This time it works like a charm though!
 
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Aaaahhhh, it's still isn't working. I'm still seeing threads 3-4 hours+ old that I never read, showing up as READ. Somewhere there must be a time limit set on this stuff.
 

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I haven't read this thread before, but that was by choice. I don't read every thread every time that I come to the board, but I can explain to everyone why they are seeing new posts marked as read, even though they didn't read them. The system uses cookies to mark the threads that are new and available for you to read. If you choose to ignore them rather than read them, it doesn't care, and the next time that you come to the site, it will no longer show those threads, unless there have been additional new postings to them. The only flaw in the system is that it is time sensitive. By that, I mean that if I am spending 15 minutes composing a response to a thread, the system will time out and "mark" the rest of the threads that were "new" when I started as "read", and I could possibly miss them that way. I rarely miss any of the new posts, because even though they are marked as read in this last instance, I just look over the list that is below "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit or since forums have been marked read.". There might be some "tweaking" that could be done to the system to extend the time periods, but overall, I don't see this as a major problem. Like driving a car, you learn to get used to the idiosyncrasies of the different systems out there. Junk....
 
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