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2oolhound

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For every one who's worked with peaveys and cant hooks in their past do you get a little sick looking at the new fangled ones they sell now-a-days? They're made of pipe and steel all welded together and painted bright red and blue. They don't have smooth flowing lines like the old ones that can be squeezed in between logs in a deck to get the one you want. I just can't stand looking at them. I decided to refit some old hardware I've had around since when I built log houses in the 70's. I turned down a length of a yew wood limb I had on my 10" atlas lathe. (Messy but it cuts like butter in the metal lathe).

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Back in those days I always wanted to make a cant hook but use an aluminum baseball bat for a handle. I figured it might even float for B&B crews, saw millers and loggers working near the salt chuck so I've been keeping my eyes open for one and was gifted a beat up one some kids must have been hitting rocks with. Good enough for me (Free!).

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The top one I made the tip and the yew wood handle for, the rest of it was parts I had.
The baseball bat one I made the tip and the clamp for the hook. I milled some steel pieces for the lugs where the hook swings between and then hits a high shoulder to stop it from closing up so you can't grab a log. Those lugs were then welded into some pipe collars that I drilled holes in for looks and to keep the weight down. I haven't tested it to see if it floats but that will be a bonus if it does.

Here is the tip set up to weld the teeth onto the pipe for the aluminum one.

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Here is this set up clamped together for welding:

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Here it is stuck together with weld:

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Here is the hook clamp that has the 2 machined lugs welded to the pipe:

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This shot shows the raised lug that stops the hook from closing against the tip. The lugs were milled on my mill drill. The good ole original ones were forged entirely by a blacksmith but I'm not that talented (yet) :

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This is the tip for the yew wood one. It is a piece of pipe that was bashed onto a tapered cone to give it the taper needed for the handle. It was heated red hot then the bent up top was dipped in water to cool it so I could hammer on it without flattening it so the bottom end would expand over the cone. Once I had the taper deep enough I cut the top off and used the bottom. The piece on the right side is the old broken one.

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Here's the tip with some teeth welded on:

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Cant hooks cant wait to do some log work!
 

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This is the one my brother-in-law gave to me years ago. I cleaned it up and re-painted it after the last time I really used it. Bucked up, split, and stacked 14 grand firs and one 60-in DBH doug fir over the course of about two months. Blew out both rotator cuffs and I think it's been growing cobwebs since then.
That pipe attached at the business end is a bit unwieldy, but when you figure out why it's there it does come in handy.
The faller had to drop them all within the boundaries of the parcel, which was a tiny little piece, so they were jackstrawed all over the lot.
I actually found myself using a 6-foot pinch-point bar more than the peevee, believe it or not. (I think the nomenclature is influenced somewhat by geography - they've always been "peevees" here to my knowledge.)
 

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I have a old wood handle one it gets used a lot, amazing what you an move with one.
Yes, they are indispensable wheb saw milling and working with logs.
Those look great...
Thanks Snips, hope I get a chance to use them soon.
This is the one my brother-in-law gave to me years ago. I cleaned it up and re-painted it after the last time I really used it. Bucked up, split, and stacked 14 grand firs and one 60-in DBH doug fir over the course of about two months. Blew out both rotator cuffs and I think it's been growing cobwebs since then.
That pipe attached at the business end is a bit unwieldy, but when you figure out why it's there it does come in handy.
The faller had to drop them all within the boundaries of the parcel, which was a tiny little piece, so they were jackstrawed all over the lot.
I actually found myself using a 6-foot pinch-point bar more than the peevee, believe it or not. (I think the nomenclature is influenced somewhat by geography - they've always been "peevees" here to my knowledge.)
Oohhh, 60 in. fir! ouwee, nice piece of wood. You guys have some nice timber up there. Ain't it a ***** getting injuries from work, I just put my back out from building my anvil. I haven't done much for 2 weeks now. I originally blew it out wrestling a 6' x 16" piece of log and now I've woken up that old injury.

You got it right on the spelling, it's been a long time since I've worked with these types of tools. I've lost most of what I had when log building in the 70's and 80's but have lots of these pieces I can put together.
 

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^ It was an interesting challenge. I had them take the 24-inch bar off a new MS390 and replace it with a 20-inch bar - more power/less chain.
It required a bit of imagination to slice the bottom end of that thing up.
It was over on the next-door neighbor's property, but they got the owner's permission to drop it because it was diseased. Had to have been a good 150+ feet long.
Crazy job. Got a new saw out of the deal (in addition to some other warm and fuzzy benefits.)
 

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Nice work. It’ll be fun using tools you made!
I love the yew!

Around my place, I’m all Logrite for the pevey and cant.

I did make a nice little pike pole for moving logs in the water.
 
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Ayuh,.... Yer's look pretty Cool,....

I live 'bout 30 miles from Peavey Manufacturing, where they still make these tools, the old way,.....
 
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Thanks guys,

It’ll be fun using tools you made!
I love the yew!
Yes, now I'll just have to convince others the same;-)

So far I'm using mostly small branches for chisel handles etc. but looking forward to using some of the bigger pieces for better roles.
Ayuh,.... Yer's look pretty Cool,....

I live 'bout 30 miles from Peavey Manufacturing, where they still make these tools, the old way,.....
I'm on an old computer that won't upgrade my browser anymore so can't see this site. It's refreshing to know these are still available commercially. The spelling is good too, I guess it is regional.
 

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RE: The spelling is good too, I guess it is regional.

definitely.
we had a discussion regarding regional monikers for tools some time ago.
the subject was "ratchet" or "ratchet wrench"? - just another example of the name of a tool that varies depending upon where you grew up or where your father grew up.
 
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OK four.cycle, I fixed it (above). When I read your original post I figured you were speculating some, it made sense but I wasn't sure and thought I may have made a spelling error myself in my 1st post. Now I see you went beyond speculative and over to probable.

The one that really sounds foreign to me in the ratchet - ratchet wrench debate is socket wrench. I don't think I'd ever heard the term in these parts before I saw it on the movie "Fast Five" when the Rock said "beat him half to death with a socket wrench". It sounded to me that whoever wrote the script didn't know anything about tools and almost ruined the movie for me. Now I know it's regional too. It's good how the web gets us out of our little corner pockets of the world.
 

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2oolhound:
Very well done, sir! (y)

I just won a Dixie 4.5' cant hook for $20 at an auction this weekend. Looks like it's never been used.
I've never needed one for to help clear my logging roads. Just being careful to keep the chainsaw out of the dirt when cutting a downed tree, and using a sturdy branch to roll the log. I didn't want to buy a cheap one and I couldn't justify paying for a top shelf one.

After Christmas, I'll put it to work when working on my roads, trails and doing my forest stand improvement chores. I'm sure that it'll help me be more efficient.

Second picture shows a typical job for me. I wish the trees would fall directly perpendicular to the road.
 

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Nice work on the cant hooks. I have my father in laws old cant hook I use. One thing I am wondering about the aluminum bat is how well it has done on big logs? If the log is big and heavy enough will it cause the aluminum to bend ? I cut down a cedar tree about 4 feet wide and a oak about 3 feet wide. It was all I could do to roll them with the one I had.
 
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Thanks Mark! Nice score on the cant hook, it looks really well made. That's a long handle and I like the steel armor that runs off the tip to the hook collar. I've always liked that design.

Thanks Willy. You're right about the baseball bat cant hook. It's made for small logs. I haven't had a chance to actually use either of these yet, just dreaming of building another log house while fending off old age. I figure it will roll a 50' log off it's notch on a log wall no problem though. (A notched log sitting in place is harder to roll than an un-notched log by quite a bit)

When I built log homes in the 70's and 80's we used mostly pine, spruce or fir from 20" to 15" butts and tops no smaller than 10" so my cant hooks are made for those sizes. You can move the hook collar back and use a longer hook for bigger logs but 3 and 4 footers are getting into loader territory for moving them.

Here are some shots of buildings I made:

Shop to hold 2 logging trucks

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Piece N' Piece construction with Fir logs

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Spuce Logs

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This house was 96' long but the longest log would only have been about 40' due to the interior log walls. Our logs were often 55' long with a 15" **** and 10" top and straight as arrows.

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I'm making log furniture. The upright pole on the top right of the photo has a peavey leaned up against it. Leaned up on the saw horse just in front of my right arm is a swede killer and almost touching it sitting across the 2 long beams is my favorite cant hook. Also in photo is a Makita 16" circular saw, 2100, 281, and over to the left a 161 husquvarna saws. Also on left by the 161 is my easwing ax.

These were fir logs, aged with bark on for 2 years under cover and off the ground, then hand peeled.

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Now this is what I was looking for. I will be back once I can get my **** and ideas together. Thanks. Zoolhound.
 
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