I just wanna lighten this thread up. Anyone got any fresh out of schppl autotech stories? We used to have a lube tech, that would do tire rotations on a drive on lift with air jacks. He woulf let the lift down but leave the car on the jacks. He would then try to back it out. He would wonder what is goibg on, I would tell him more gas. He would gun it and everyone would die laughing.
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Ok. In my opinion everyone, I mean everyone needs to take a year off after high school and/or go to a tech college to obtain a skill. Not many high school graduates know exactly what they want to do with life right out of the gate. Trust me I teach them. A year off allows you to live life, work, and figure things out. A degree is invaluable but I had a lot of friends that went through up to six major changes before they landed on their last one. Life isn't about finding a job, going every day no matter how miserable you are so you can retire. Life is finding what you enjoy doing and whether that path is through college and a doctorate program or a two year associates at a technical college everyone needs to make their own path. Their is no right answer to the college is stupid or college is the only way argument because the world needs all types.
sberry
Banned
Its got its ups and downs but the downside is coming to catch us now. The lawyers have taken over the country and now they have convinced the medical doctors they are as entitled as they are to more and this is fed by the wanna be phd types that run govt grant programs that basically tell you to sit down and shut the fuk up and that if all the poor would just listen to them the world would be alright. They get a glazed look in their eyes while they pretend to look sincere staring at you saying this. The doctors and lawyers fish and lunch together and create new billing schemes where the debt is sold to china before you leave an ER.
This level of education entitles you to lie, present grossly erroneous fabrications as facts. Lets them sell extended warranty as a good deal, they run the world and find a way to blame all these deals they cook up that didn't work out on someone else,,, its the poor folks they rigged a loan for that cant afford it fault,,, but you don't see them having to give back the points they made on the deal? Poor **** loses his house, wreck the economy but the banker and the lawyer make even more for a mess they started in the first place while we still pay the bailout and if you dont we will send the irs to get it.
This level of education entitles you to lie, present grossly erroneous fabrications as facts. Lets them sell extended warranty as a good deal, they run the world and find a way to blame all these deals they cook up that didn't work out on someone else,,, its the poor folks they rigged a loan for that cant afford it fault,,, but you don't see them having to give back the points they made on the deal? Poor **** loses his house, wreck the economy but the banker and the lawyer make even more for a mess they started in the first place while we still pay the bailout and if you dont we will send the irs to get it.
sberry
Banned
I offered a cousin a chance to build a real deal, he is way smarter than I am but not a chance,, way better to sit around a think tank with a calculator at some insane pay figuring out how to shave half a point on some credit card scheme that pretty much sticks it to someone that cant afford it.
Its easy to jump China for problems but most of these are created by MBA types we should use along with the lawyers to pave the roads with. But I am sure we will find a **** lick to come along to tell us to go to class and to learn better English so we can further discuss the paving process with proper grammer even if I cant speel et.
What we got here is one class holding the other responsible for problems the first one made.
Its easy to jump China for problems but most of these are created by MBA types we should use along with the lawyers to pave the roads with. But I am sure we will find a **** lick to come along to tell us to go to class and to learn better English so we can further discuss the paving process with proper grammer even if I cant speel et.
What we got here is one class holding the other responsible for problems the first one made.
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I completely agree in the context but I think I want to rephrase it.What we got here is one class holding the other responsible for problems the first one made.
we have 2 classes blaming (not properly holding them accountable, just complaining) each other for problems that were caused by both their self-serving agendas in the past.
The fact is just like it's been said, you don't know what you want to do for the next 40 years in or right after high school. You don't even know if you want to do the same thing for that time.
Therefore, a lot of people have been encouraged to go to school, some have finished some have not, most of those have student loan debt now. Additionally some have degrees they (and we, rightly) call useless. Psych majors who are in it just to finish what they started. Art majors. etc. So the root of the problem really is parents and the K12 school system pushing them so hard into college, without clear goals or the proper encouragement into their strengths.
Do I think a 4 year degree is what every 40 year old ideally has? yes. Every 30 year old? probably. Every 20-something? If they can get into school, and start the degree, yes they should finish. Should everyone be pushed into starting college in their 20's? definitely not.
The problem is that the system isn't set up that way easily. Just like sberry says, the paper didn't matter in your 20's but it matters much more later in your career. How is a 20 year old going to predict that accurately? Maybe the Marines were the right choice. Maybe college was. Maybe starting a pot farm in Colorado is best. The bottom line is, any of those choices can still lead to a college degree for someone who recognizes the need and puts in the work. You don't have to be a full time student to succeed in school. You don't even have to show up anymore, so many real schools (no offense to Phoenix 'grads' if any are here) offering online classes or half & halfs for the ones that need hands on.
And guess what? All of these changes came from the people in the 60's, 70's, and 80's who were trying to 'break into' the education system. It was much more rigid then, you had some correspondence courses but that was a failed experiment at best. You had some commuter classes, evening & weekend classes, but it wasn't until more money went into recreating the junior colleges into tech schools in the 80's & 90's as a result of all that. Now there is nothing but complaints, more companies want paper to get in the door, to advance, to do what used to be possible with just time in position. Due to the relatively easy access to education that others fought to get in the past, it's now realistic for companies to hang that over your head and say 'our class is just reacting to what your class insisted on getting'.
kythri
Well-known member
Well, college isn't for everyone, but I kind of take offense to your statement here.
Did we really resurrect a year and a half old thread that devolved into an argument, just to start that argument over again?
Really?
Steinmetz
Well-known member
I hate statements like this. What's wrong with working in a factory? Why do you think everything is manufactured outside of the US now. There is nothing wrong with working a line in a factory. Lots of Americans did it in the past and lived just fine.
What's wrong? You get old. Faster than in other occupations.
brit road garage
Banned
I hated and sucked at maths at school and when while I'm doing my engineering diploma the math is applied, applied maths and physics is so much easier to understand than normal maths and physics and engineering will always be applied, following formulas is like following instructions it's all there for you just gotta be logical and not get overwhelmed, iv been working in a garage since I was 14 and iv seen enough, I'm moving into architecture now
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If I were you I would go for the degree. Most colleges or at least the ones I've been to have a scholarship for incoming freshmen that waives tuition but not books. They will also require you to fill out fafsa regardless if it's a 2 year, 4 year or tech school. If you get a scholarship like I mentioned above they send what is left over from fafsa to you. So in your first semester working towards your degree you could purchase almost 8,000 in tools (4000 from fafsa, and your student tool discount). If you study a lot and make all A's and B's generally they have a presidents list scholarship that does the same thing for sophmore, junior, and senior years (obviously depending on the school) but theoretically in the 8 semesters working to get your degree you could obtain around 60,000 in tools with no student loans or tool truck payments. I got through undergrad at Texas A&M for medical without owing sallie Mae a dime.
I also completed understand your frustration with math and unfortunately in college it gets harder. I found the key to highschool was showing up, in college you need to show up, study a lot, ask your professors about questions you don't understand, study with friends and if all else fails the school will have free tutors. This is what got me through various calculus courses.
Keeping those scholarships isn't easy but think of all the tools you could buy and what a head start you would have. When you graduated you would have most of your tools and your buddies would still be paying the truck.
Getting the degree also opens up the choice of an MBA or other graduate level degree later on.
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I also completed understand your frustration with math and unfortunately in college it gets harder. I found the key to highschool was showing up, in college you need to show up, study a lot, ask your professors about questions you don't understand, study with friends and if all else fails the school will have free tutors. This is what got me through various calculus courses.
Keeping those scholarships isn't easy but think of all the tools you could buy and what a head start you would have. When you graduated you would have most of your tools and your buddies would still be paying the truck.
Getting the degree also opens up the choice of an MBA or other graduate level degree later on.
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