To who? I'm not loyal to a brand and/or company.
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Oldgloryfirearms
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make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
sorry for upsetting you dude.
I got that impression, too.
Posts 69, 71 and 74 in this thread should be enough of an example, no?
Oldgloryfirearms
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make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
sorry for upsetting you dude.
not upset at all...just providing a link like you asked for
Whatever. You don't see it as fueling discord, that's fine. We all see things different. If it were in a thread about a different topic, I'd agree.
And, I'm the wrong guy to ask about a low priced US flex . I own a FHL80 that I paid $60 for from a GJer. That's 50% off retail but I wouldn't use that as an answer to your question.
When it comes to some tools, ratchets included, I'm not one to look for low-price. If I need it and can afford it, I'll buy it. Low price usually burns me down the road.
And why are we talking about this? That's not what this thread is about.
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SantaAna12
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but your avatar says DeWalt???
There power tools are assembled in USA with overseas parts.
And there hand tools are all Chinese?????
Amen. That has always stuck in my craw. I understand there are no parts for anything priced under $400. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong. That means there is no draw slide for the popular 44" set or anything for the " Our jack or impact wrench is as good as SnapOn" jack or impact wrench. You get 90 days, lifetime exchange or paid for exchange coverage extension. NO PARTS. I do not want to drag a multi hundred lb. cabinet back for a drawer slide. One of the 2 stage, top of their line air compressors is not even a 2 stage. The one with 3 cylinders has 3 air cleaners and only goes to 150psi. Which cylinder is stage 2. LOL.
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Finky198
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Thats what I find funny about all those who recommend the earthquake guns. Must not use them very much. For a homeowner I'm sure there decent guns, but without repair parts your screwed. I have cleaned and rebuilt my IR impacts a few times with a couple a dollars in parts.
I like HF but My big issue lately is I can usually find the professionals level products in good condition for the same price as the HF product new. Ending up with a better and serviceable tool.
I like HF but My big issue lately is I can usually find the professionals level products in good condition for the same price as the HF product new. Ending up with a better and serviceable tool.
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AffableCurmudgeon
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Where is this thread going?
There are always going to be people who don't like HFT and those who do. If you like HFT tools, buy them, if you don't like them, don't buy them.
Why must there be debate and insults about the same goddamned topic every other day?
There are always going to be people who don't like HFT and those who do. If you like HFT tools, buy them, if you don't like them, don't buy them.
Why must there be debate and insults about the same goddamned topic every other day?
Just keep it in focus. Sharper Image appealed to the desk jockey, HF to Joe Homeowner who wants to play pro on the weekends and the trucks to the true pro tool users.
Some stuff crosses over the lines but we are the problem, not the products. We should see the shiny pocket multi tool won't help the pro and the D80 ratchet is useless to the desk jockey.
All levels of tools and skills help turn the world. Accept it. But they have to be in the right hands.
Some stuff crosses over the lines but we are the problem, not the products. We should see the shiny pocket multi tool won't help the pro and the D80 ratchet is useless to the desk jockey.
All levels of tools and skills help turn the world. Accept it. But they have to be in the right hands.
Finky198
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True and even as a pro I own a ton of harbor freight stuff, but I'm very selective of what I buy and knowing my prices. It is absolutely more about consumer awareness. And yes the tool are built to their spec for said user. But it seem odd to me that a Company like HF with the facility's the logistics and web phone and email, the workforce, that they can't supply parts ( even if it was very selective) and or charged for shipping.
If they added parts to the equation of the earthquake lineup I'd be inclined to buy a whole extra set for the shop. But I can get semi used IR for the same price and parts are accessible for a lifetime. I know that I'm not HF intended buyer but it's a small issue that could could sell a lot more units. Maybe to them it's not worth the $1 IDK that's what baffles me about the corporate world.
Or if someone on here want to make a rebuild kit and go into biz!!! Lol
If they added parts to the equation of the earthquake lineup I'd be inclined to buy a whole extra set for the shop. But I can get semi used IR for the same price and parts are accessible for a lifetime. I know that I'm not HF intended buyer but it's a small issue that could could sell a lot more units. Maybe to them it's not worth the $1 IDK that's what baffles me about the corporate world.
Or if someone on here want to make a rebuild kit and go into biz!!! Lol
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what ? where have you've been last 2 decades
This isn't a unique problem, stuff coming out from China rarely if ever has any support / parts. You name it, even expensive name brand durable goods, machine tools etc, sold at Lowe's or HD and call / visit them a year later about repair parts.
They are more than willing to sell a 3rd party service contract at point of sale, exact same modus operandi as HFT right. Todays consumer demands disposable goods.
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How do you know they don't pay for using those names?
Hmm.
i had an impact socket I wanted to warranty, so I returned it to the store.
According to your observation, they could have (should have) said "get bent", since they have so much business, they are not concerned with mine.
Instead they nicely replaced my slightly worn one with a brand new one. In fact, their help is courteous and helpful, most every time.
They don't want/need my business, yet they constantly bombard me with printed catalogs, sale flyers, text and email messages, with price cuts.
Monopoly? Just because Sears is gone? Ever hear of that thing called the Internet?
The HF tool chest is $399. The similar Snap On chest is $3900.
Buy the HF chest and if the drawer slide breaks, throw the whole thing in the scrap pile and buy another.
Will still be money way ahead. Replace it 8 more time to break even.
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Agreed!!! and that's even if it does break.
Down the crapper?
Bottom line.
Those that like HF tools, want others to like them, as to justify their decision.
Those who don't like HF tools, want others to not like them, as to justify their decision.
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kctyphoon
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Just adding this - more than a few people have ordered parts for their HF tool boxes. Extra drawers, shelfs for the lockers, lock sets. I imagine a couple phone calls might be involved, but you can easily avoid that by buying a $4,000 box if you want.
If you created a thread asking people how they like their HF boxes, I'm sure most would agree that they are a "must have", or "Best Buy" HF item. As far as other tools go, you know what your getting, and at their prices something like an earthquake impact is a good choice for a ********* pro just to have as a backup when his premium gun needs service. If you base your tool choices as a return vs investment basis, it's hard to ignore what HF offers. If you'd rather spend another 3 or $400 to buy a snap on jack because it has different "o-rings", you are more than welcome to do so. It's your money.
If you created a thread asking people how they like their HF boxes, I'm sure most would agree that they are a "must have", or "Best Buy" HF item. As far as other tools go, you know what your getting, and at their prices something like an earthquake impact is a good choice for a ********* pro just to have as a backup when his premium gun needs service. If you base your tool choices as a return vs investment basis, it's hard to ignore what HF offers. If you'd rather spend another 3 or $400 to buy a snap on jack because it has different "o-rings", you are more than welcome to do so. It's your money.
Empty Pockets
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What about buying the second box, and cannibalizing the 1st for the slides and have a lifetime supply?
Empty Pockets
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Over the last several decades, I have bought more than a few items from HF. When I was younger, money was a big consideration. They filled a need.
Over the years, I've upgraded to CM-USA, Wright, SK and some Truck Brands. The HF tools have been passed down to my kids and grandkids. Some have been lost, many have broken and gone into the scrap pile.
In recent years, most of my HF purchases have been disposable/consumable items like leather gloves, solvent resistant gloves, shop rags, abrasives and some saw blades.
When I walk into a HF store, I know what I am buying, They are filling a position in the market, and I have no complaints with them
Over the years, I've upgraded to CM-USA, Wright, SK and some Truck Brands. The HF tools have been passed down to my kids and grandkids. Some have been lost, many have broken and gone into the scrap pile.
In recent years, most of my HF purchases have been disposable/consumable items like leather gloves, solvent resistant gloves, shop rags, abrasives and some saw blades.
When I walk into a HF store, I know what I am buying, They are filling a position in the market, and I have no complaints with them
SuperCat
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I agree with Empty Pockets, post #105. Well said! 
yamaha0343
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Down the crapper?
Bottom line.
Those that like HF tools, want others to like them, as to justify their decision.
Those who don't like HF tools, want others to not like them, as to justify their decision.
I can admit that I'm probably guilty of this myself at times.
I think what really gets me sometimes with the HF fan club, is when someone posts asking about a truck brand or other upper tier tool, and the brigade runs in to defend HF's honor.
I don't really have any hate towards HF, they've done a great job at filling a sector of the market that wasn't filled well before. I buy consumables and things like casters there sometimes, so I don't hate the place. They seem to be on an upswing, and so are their prices.
But at the same time, I don't care for some of the ways they run their business, and their advertising turns me off more than it makes me want to buy stuff. But hey, that's capitalism. Vote with your wallet and all that stuff.
Been at this never-ending game of turning wrenches for food, and buying wrenches to turn, for a couple decades now at least.
Quite a bit of HF in my shiny Snappy toolboxes. Some is utter ****** garbage, some is identical to the tool trucks. (gasp! wha? yep..)
It takes a keen eye but there are some gems in those "smells-like-China" stores. Their warranty return policy makes old school Sears look like, well, like new school Sears, too.
I won't use their entire product line as my daily go-to but there is more HF in my service truck and in my main shop boxes than many would admit....and I know for a fact I ain't the only one.
Quite a bit of HF in my shiny Snappy toolboxes. Some is utter ****** garbage, some is identical to the tool trucks. (gasp! wha? yep..)
It takes a keen eye but there are some gems in those "smells-like-China" stores. Their warranty return policy makes old school Sears look like, well, like new school Sears, too.
I won't use their entire product line as my daily go-to but there is more HF in my service truck and in my main shop boxes than many would admit....and I know for a fact I ain't the only one.
pepi
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But it is still HF correct? so what's the change stickers on tools
"HF the transgender of tools, today I feel like a snapon tomorrow I will feel like a HF"
Greg
Yes, this is a thread on HF and it is still HF. You're correct.
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PugetDude
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Please elaborate.
That's how I feel as well!!!
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The 44" tool chests use a standard slide size. I don't feel like looking it up right now, but others found that out and just ordered the generic slides. They're like $10 a slide online
timothylockhart
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As long as you buy smart and take care of them both boxes will retain most of their value. It's not like it's money down a black hole. Sure you'll lose your *** if you pay full list on a truck box but who does that?
If you like them how come you wouldn't want the price to drop? Confused...
HanShotFirst
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Received a new sales ad today. There is a 46 inch tool chest with the name brand of Yukon Listed at $289 which is really cheap for a 46". Reading the description shows a maximum capacity of 1200 pounds...that isn't much weight at all for a 9 drawer 46" chest. That must be some seriously thin gauge steel.
Of the changes that are being kicked around, lower quality is not something I was looking for.
Of the changes that are being kicked around, lower quality is not something I was looking for.
Not to mention the Husky equivalent is $249.99.