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[PASSMORE]

Hi Wiliam,

Let me preface this with the fact that I know little to nothing about electricity...

That said, I will try to respond to your post. IIRC, we have a 12kv line coming into a 3 phase transformer. As I understand it we will be able to run both single and three phase out of this. There is also something about the new transformers now going to 208v rather than 240v - not sure I understand all that.

What is a CT?

Yes on th panel in the shop.

Michael

Looks like your moving ahead!

As for the metering I assume that your running @ 240V and your all reddy CT metered on the 1st base you have installed. If so just add another meter section to the panel to hold the meter head and another set of CT's and pass all the ag stuff through them. I guess that you could also run all the non ag stuff through the CT's if your running a lot of ag circuits ( I also assume that your going to have a sub panel in the shop)??

William.....

 

[PASSMORE]

We recently installed a very similar panel at work. It powers an entire elementary school...LOL

Did PG&E require you to provide a phone line at the meter? They wouldn't power us up until we ran a 4-pair out there. Supposedly it is so they can read the meter remotely, but the school has been open since August and the line still isn't connected to anything.

Hi Will,

SMUD is our electricity supplier. I hear each has their own unique issues.

No phone line required (so far), but it would not ba a big dea as we have a 25 pair coming in right beside the rest of the utilites there.

Michael

 

[wilbilt]

Ah. SMUD.

I don't know why PG&E was so adamant about the phone line. We were lucky that we had a path (through multiple Christy boxes) to the switchgear from the phone demarc.

Another district was building a school near here, and they ended up having to dig up a new parking lot to trench for the phone line. Interesting that PG&E didn't mention anything about it until everything was in place.

And like I said, it isn't even being used at this point.

 

[tanky321]

Your running at 208V because a 3 phase Y system is 208/120V or 480/277V. Obviously in your situation you need the 208. 120V is the single phase voltage. The 277 is single phase as well. On a 3 Phase Y system each leg has the same voltage to ground which is single phase. A CT is a current transformer. Usually with a service that big you would use CT's as a meter that large is alot of money and a PITA to install. They look like this.

These go around the three hot legs and they send out a voltage to the meter which will let the PO Co know how much you consume.


andy

 

[PASSMORE]

Well, we have been making progress ever so slowly....

Foundation work is continuing -

Electricity is up and running (hoorah!) -

That's it for now. as oon as the permit is finalized, progress will ramp up a good deal.

 

[Canadian Charlie]

"hydo"?

He means electricity, us Canadians have a different language from you Americans



Nice garage build up can't wait to see more pics

 

[PASSMORE]

Progress is continuing and we should have a foundation next week.

The boys...

and their work

more updates next week...

 

[PatrickR]

Ya know, most places this large would have a McDonalds installed or maybe a Dentist office.
Super looking dig. Wish you the best and have fun when done. No doubt you will.

 

[wilbilt]

It's gonna take a fleet of ready-mix trucks to fill those forms....

 

[PASSMORE]

I'll count them up for gigles for you...

Looks like we should be set for a Wednesday footings pour with slab thereafter.

PS - another note for you Wilbilt (and the ret of ya'll if you go w/something like this): It is comforting to know that my concrete contractor considers this a small 'fill' job for a friend. He is generally pouring shopping malls and the like. Nice be be on that side of a contractor's abilities.

 

[wilbilt]

No kidding...a small job?
I usually figure $1000 per truck, which is generally $1000 more than I have...
Best wishes for Wednesday. There is nothing quite like watching the floor take shape.

 

[PASSMORE]

the stem walls and footings got poured today... 17 or so trucks IIRC. Of note is that even though i am dealing with reputable and stand up co. for my foundation there is no substitute for being on site to make sure issues are resolved. Of comfort wa that the ower of this co. is a great fella, a friend, and a generally good fella.

Inspector testing for slump on 3000psi concrete

 

[HOTFR8]

Yep everything is bigger in the USA

C'mon your in the Northern Territory. You can drive for days and not see your neighbours.

Passmore,

Looks to me like one great garage. Looking forward to see the finised outcome.

 

[PASSMORE]

First floor framing is done. Trusses above the garage portion come in Tuesday. Second floor framing to start shortly thereafter.

'front' side

opposite side

wood shop, or might turn in to the motorcycle shop. The door frame is to put a 'garage' door in (clear paneled/glass) to keep the wood dust in. We will plumb for a vacuum/dust system in there.

Pull through doors

Metal/Machine/Mech shop area

More misc. shots to try and give you a sense of it...

"garage' area as viewed from atop the Meta;/mech shop area and what will be the residence area

upstairs

Site security. WOOF.

 

[christian]

looks great

 

[cyclopsblown34]

Awesome shop build.

 

[PASSMORE]

Progress has continued...

The trusses arrived

Trusses craned into place

The 'inspection' team

There is a wee bit of attic storage in these trusses...

Trusses cover the overhangs as well

Second floor framing pretty much done too - stick framing the roof over the residence starts tomorrow

That's about it for now...

 

[Matt2point4]

Great progress!
Look like a hot time to be building!

 

[PASSMORE]

Actually not overly hot right now with the nice Delta breeze we are getting. We have had a fairly mild summer all in all compared to last year (108-110 degree days last year. This year has barely been over 100 degrees very much which has made living in the RV on property far more livable too.

 

[W-Cummins]

Looking great! it's nice to see them come together. Are you going to be able to move in before the snows come??


William...

 

[mickeypat]

Did we ever get pictures of the final build? I'm sure it's great. Too many folks put a project on here in the beginning and we never see the finished product. IMHO.

 

[PASSMORE]

Looking great! it's nice to see them come together. Are you going to be able to move in before the snows come??


William...

Hiya William,

No snow here 'cept when hell freezes over! While I am w/in shooting distance from the Sierra's (2 hours door to door from South Lake Tahoe), we are well below the snow line.

Rain? Now that is a different story altogether... Without much effort, we should be safely dried in before the rains.

 

[PASSMORE]

Did we ever get pictures of the final build? I'm sure it's great. Too many folks put a project on here in the beginning and we never see the finished product. IMHO.

You guys have the photos of what I am looking at right this very moment...

I will keep them coming as I have time and as progress continues.

 

[PASSMORE]

Progress continues!

The walls are up on the 2nd floor residence portion of our building and the roof framing over this portion started today.


This is the 'front' of the structure and the large opening on the second floor will be our 'front door'

This shot shows the dead space that I am trying to reclaim for storage in some shape or fashion. Right now, our best idea is to use a hidden door concealed in the built ins in the pantry...

This shot shows (amonst other things, Jose's ****:lol3 ) the other side of that dead space which is primarily the kitchen and pantry. The far right window is the shower.

Looking out here is deck to be.

Lift time...

some roof framing...

Overall...

and the obligatory shot of B.R. the crazy crane guy - "Why strain? Use my crane!" This guy is a friggin genius w/a crane!

 

[christian]

nice house/garage. who would lift their work truck as high as that super duty?

 

[enginerd]

Nice.

Whats this type of construction cost out there?

What are you doing on the exterior, siding/stucco/brick/??

How many bathrooms in the final design?

Anything special on the floors?

What did the overall garage square foot print end up being?

Goodluck with the rest of the project, looks great.

 

[PASSMORE]

Christian - no clue why. To each their own I suppose.

Enginerd - Cost - I'll let you know when I finish LOL! Seriously though, I am not sure my figures would be in line with what you could do something similar for. I tend to go a bit overboard. Exterior will be a combination of stucco and rock. There are 2 full bathrooms - had I to do it again and the residence's floorplan did not evolve, I would have tossed in another upstairs for the guest room. Floors - which floors are you referring to specifically? Unconditioned space footprint is just north of 4660 IIRC.

 

[PurdueSD]

nice house/garage. who would lift their work truck as high as that super duty?

Me, mines about the same height...

Awesome garage, it is gargantuan!

 

[PASSMORE]

Hey Purdue...

See Christian, to each their own eh?

Yeah, it seems big until I started chalking out where things go and it begins to shrink rapidly! My goal is to be able to use this space smart...

 

[PASSMORE]

Getting the roof framing finished up over the residence

 

[Steve V.]

Man, that is awesome. Plenty of elbow room. That pond looks nice too. My Chocolate Lab would give his left...well, you know...to have a pond like that right on our property. What size is it?




Steve

 

[PASSMORE]

Hiya Steve, Our hounds like the pond too. That pond is 6 acres (filling right now). We have a couple others of varying sizes as well. The 6 acre one was about 4 till we moved a bit of dirt...

 

[PASSMORE]

"I'm gonna use a stick this friggin' big to beat da hell out ya both if yous guys hose up PASSMORE's casa" :lol3 - in front of them is where the office will be...

corner of the kitchen area

kitchen window

 

[Will67]

Passmore:
Who did you use for your foundation work? I am about 20-minutes north of you in Orangevale and am looking for someone to do my foundation/concrete work.

Will

 

[arbee]

Passmore,

Ever since you posted the switchgear pics I knew this was going to be exceptional. I have to ask though what is the paddle boat looking machine beside the pond?

 

[bluesman2a]

I have to ask though what is the paddle boat looking machine beside the pond?

It looks like some sort of hydro-power generation unit. Quite possibly to power das u-boat storage facility under the garage...

I mean hey, he's got everything ELSE!!!

Seriously though, that is one sharp looking layout you have there.

 

[Bib Overalls]

Passmore,

Ever since you posted the switchgear pics I knew this was going to be exceptional. I have to ask though what is the paddle boat looking machine beside the pond?

Airator? Put oxygen in the water for the fish I think.

 

[PASSMORE]

Passmore:
Who did you use for your foundation work? I am about 20-minutes north of you in Orangevale and am looking for someone to do my foundation/concrete work.

Will

Hiya Will,

Our neighbors did our foundation - Tim and Cathi who own Whiting Concrete Construction. They primarily do larger commercial and tilt-up, but he does a few residential projects a year. Drop me a line if you are interested. If your project might be a tad smaller, another neighbor/friend of mine who does all the rst of my concrete work out here (and will likely do all the flatwork for me) is outstanding as well (Steve/Anchor Construction). Both great guys and a quality product, just depends on what you are looking for.

 

[PASSMORE]

Airator? Put oxygen in the water for the fish I think.

We have a winner!

In that pond there are two aerators, one (not pictured) 7.5hp and the other 5hp.

 

[Rte66Charlie]

Very nice Passmore, very very nice. It is wonderful to see what hard work can accomplish/result in!! (that said, tell me this isn't an inheritance spending spree!!)

You have obviously been working toward this for a good while because there is no doubt it is well thought out, well designed, and so far, from what has been done, well executed!!

Good on you sir, and congratulations!!! I'm anxious to see more!!