Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[Craptain]

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Going to need a paint booth though.

If you recall he has a paint booth but it is pretty full of things that don't need painting. Maybe this is the incentive to "clean up the shop"

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[oldironfarmer]

Andy, far out you have been busy..

I will be an apology for the 29th sadly but if you are making this an annual thing I can plan ahead for next year..

Cheers

Thanks for stopping in! Don't know about next year, I'm just week to week flirting with being banned for getting off topic.

And I don't like the First Annual thing. But it would be great to have you visit and if things go as I expect I'd expect my expectations to be exceeded and next year will be something to look forward to.

I'm going to say I think you have a wonderful shop and beautiful land and I think you're a great man. I think you take great pictures and even though you claim to be Lazy (Andy) you are far from it. You have more going on for you than most people I know.

OKAY, did I say enough nice things??????

That's not what you expect from me. I know better.

As tempting as it is to show up at your place at the end of this month, I will wait until next year if Steve is actually going to make the trip. I'd like to meet him also. But don't be surprised if I just mossy into your backyard someday. (I'll be the guy listening to what your cows are really saying about you.)

I'm not going to comment on you pile of iron.

DAN DAN! DAN!! Some nice person has hijacked your login and trying to make you look like a wimp. Quick, change your password!!

Plan on staying a few days when you come.

Andy: i love your Studebaker and anxious to see it running if that is the plan. the Ford is ok and i'm sorta kinda looking for a 1956, but at the moment i'm without a big shop so not in any hurry to buy something and have it sit in the rain.

sorry i haven't been taking you up on your Cokes cause i'm an ice tea and water guy, but if it was Coke from the pre 30's when they put the REAL THING in it i might be tempted to see how that was.

love the bridge crane idea if that's the plan or maybe something a bit smaller like a gantry so you can load and unload your trucks and trailers. or do you have plans to bring in somethings that are really big and heavy?

have a great SATURDAY and from my chair it sure looks like you do get a lot done every day. did i read you are relocating the Yellow and the Purple cars? did the grandson's get them or tell or don't tell cause i'm not one to ask much about what you comment on. or am I?

sadly i won't be able to drive or fly to Oklahoma this year, but might be a possibility next year if i can GET ORGANIZED.

cheers

Drives there would be much less information shared were it not for your questions. Keep them coming!

My son and his wife have claimed the purple car as an early inheritance. I told them mid June after the Drag Main event in Cleveland, OK.

The yellow car is going to my brother in law for a year. I told him he could have it for a year. After that I expect his furor will diminish and I'll get it back. Otherwise I'll sell it to him.

I far prefer a bridge crane to a jib crane. And, I've got most of the pieces and want to put it back together. I have no plans for lifting but they seem to pop up when you least expect it. A decent crane will pick the body off a vehicle or be used to roll a chassis over safely.

Best not wait until you're organized, just come on down! Live up to your name!!

Andy your trusses gave me an idea for a bridge across the pool, now a fish pond. I am going to check out using some of the old ham radio tower I have for support beams.

Good plan!

If you recall he has a paint booth but it is pretty full of things that don't need painting. Maybe this is the incentive to "clean up the shop"

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Now, now. It's not really full of things. Mainly a yellow car and paint stuff. However it is unfinished and that is coming up on the radar. Just a little more foundry work to get that out of my system.

Thanks for stopping in, guys!

It's Saturday!!

 

[Finallygotit]

My bridge was inside when the shop burned in '89 and I cut the ends off and scrapped the bent metal. I may have some I-beam which will work from an old bridge I salvaged.

That's 28 ft of straight 6-inch beam from the old bridge (highway bridge, not crane bridge, I'll use bridge steel to make bridge steel, that's not repurposing is it?). I salvaged the bridge to get a ton of genuine wrought iron for blacksmithing. I have some leftovers.

Wait........what???????

Can't say I know too many people that can make that statement.

 

[-Brent-]

Wait........what???????

Can't say I know too many people that can make that statement.

Oh, yeah that... that's some scrap from a bridge he salvaged. Dan, some folks are into bigger, weirder, or more ******** things than you and I (and most other GJers). Ol' Andy here probably has a couple moon rocks kicking around, too.

 

[dchance]

Andy,
As I watch I am beginning to get the idea that your are picking up the things on the floor and are going to put them over your head. At least you won't stumble on them. But does this lead to out of sight out of mind?

Great use of space. Think of all the projects you will have time for when you are not searching for things.

Thanks for the posts looks great

Dwight

 

[Craptain]

Ol' Andy here probably has a couple moon rocks kicking around, too.

Back in the day I actually had hold of a couple of pieces of moon rock. I worked with the scientists who were on that project.

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[dreamingmuscle]

Spring Cleaning!

So here's an idea. It's fun to meet other Garage Journal people, so if there's interest I'm thinking of hosting a Saturday get together at my shop. April 29th, Terlton, Oklahoma, USA.

I'll provide Coke from the machine and a pot of stew with parts of one of my dead cows in it.

We can do a little blacksmithing, make a broom or two, take a ride in the Studebaker (I guarantee it will be ready to roll by then), and talk shop. Tour the shop and see if I've been photoshopping my pictures. (Is it really that dirty?) Poke around the junk and look at the cows if there's any interest. And with a little encouragement I'll perform: juggling sharp knives. Maybe melt some cans or do a little sand casting. I might have a garage sale table with free stuff to good homes if I can find any extra stuff I don't have an immediate need for. Might even have a souvenir cow patty for each visitor.

Families welcome, of course, but obviously my shop is nowhere close to being child proof so children would have to have close supervision.

If there is interest, let me know. OK to respond on the thread but if we decide to go forward I will need an RSVP by PM so we will have enough food. If the weather is bad I'll have a spot cleaned out inside, but don't expect me to be a host and have the shop cleaned up. My name is not Don Long and I don't know how to host a party. But I can have a lot of friends over.

So let me know.

I'm in, as long as this isn't a trick to get help cleaning up the shop.

I think I have some scrap aluminum around here somewhere that I need to relocate so I can say I'm cleaning my shop.

Glen

 

[rmack898]

Andy,
I’m not sure where to start. I started reading this thread when it was only a few pages and somehow never followed it as it progressed to the saga it is today. I read your entire broom thread and enjoyed it enough to share it with my wife and she thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did but I never made the connection between this thread and the guy that makes the brooms.

You and I had a little side hijack in JB’s thread talking about TA’s in refineries and I finally made the connection between you and this thread. Well it has taken me almost 2 weeks to read it in its entirety. I didn’t skim it, I read every post and reply. By doing so, I feel that I have learned so much more about you and the old iron farm as well as so many of the other regular contributors to your thread. I have to tell you that I was so engrossed in your daily endeavors that I have not been able to keep up on any other threads that I have been following and now I have a lot of catching up to do.

I really appreciate the wisdom that you share and your approach to life. You have motivated me to look deeply into the things that I thought were important and maybe re-evaluate my priorities. I’m done feeding your non-existent ego, but I had to get that out.

Your “Bob’s” cousin lives with me and as someone that works mostly alone, I could not survive without him. Having Bob’s cousin (Bob’s cousin doesn’t have a name) is like having another person in the shop with me.

I’m enjoying your casting escapades, so keep them coming. I’m still in the process of building my first coal forge and I’m sure that will lead me to eventually follow in you casting footsteps.

There was only one dime in the dish on top of the machine and I didn’t want to be the old maid so I didn’t have a Coke. “Someone needs go get a shitload of dimes”

So now that I’m up to date, I just want to let you know that I’ll be watching what happens on the farm.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Wait........what???????

Can't say I know too many people that can make that statement.

I know what you mean, most sane people clean up and throw away what they aren't using. I haven't touched that pile in years. I was pretty pleased that I may finally have a use for a bit of it. When I hauled it all home I was thinking there would be more wrought iron that just the tension members, but the rest was all steel.

Oh, yeah that... that's some scrap from a bridge he salvaged. Dan, some folks are into bigger, weirder, or more ******** things than you and I (and most other GJers). Ol' Andy here probably has a couple moon rocks kicking around, too.

I should have sold it when scrap was up, but I like the latticework and keep thinking there's something I will do with it. I thought about using some for columns in the addon, or for posts for the foundry shed roof. But I didn't.

An interesting story (to me anyway, roll your eyes): Genuine wrought iron is hard to come by. It was manually manufactured and the process was hazardous to the puddlers. All manufacturing declined greatly in the thirties. It is prized by blacksmiths as a traditional material but it is hard to work with. Somehow I had a suspicion that some of these old bridges may be wrought iron. One three miles from the house was slated to be replaced and I checked it. Sure enough the tension bars and stay rods were all wrought iron. I asked the County and they said ask the State. The State man said ask the contractor. The contractor said the scrap is not worth hauling and they will bury it. I can have one day to take what I want. Great guy, he pulled everything out onto the roadbed, my Son in Law took his backhoe down and we had two torches going. The contractor bent some but he helped us a lot by getting it onto flat ground. I started selling short pieces on the internet. A couple of years later a bridge a mile from my house was slated to be replaced. So I talked to everybody and the contractor said "sure". I have a scroungy neighbor down the road who hired on as night watchman and took all the iron in trade for salary. Would not sell me any, he was going to get rich selling it. But he didn't know what wrought iron is versus steel, and I could never sell much. After spending a lot of acetylene cutting it up into short pieces he finally hauled it to scrap. Would not let me buy the wrought iron at a premium because he was just sure I was going to skin him. The first bridge yielded about 2,100 lbs of wrought and I still have about 2,000 lbs.

But I'm still looking for bridges to be torn down

Andy,
As I watch I am beginning to get the idea that your are picking up the things on the floor and are going to put them over your head. At least you won't stumble on them. But does this lead to out of sight out of mind?

Great use of space. Think of all the projects you will have time for when you are not searching for things.

Thanks for the posts looks great

Dwight

Out of sight, out of mind? I'm already out of my mind! As long as things are organized you'll know where to look. The mezzanine shelves will probably hold things like old tractor and car parts being saved for the future, like the ram's horn manifolds that came with my 37 Chevy. Also seldom used tools like nail guns and roofing guns. It's a good place for Mr. Coburn's old home made lathe. I'm hoping to be able to look up there and see stuff I want and like but don't need today or tomorrow.

Back in the day I actually had hold of a couple of pieces of moon rock. I worked with the scientists who were on that project.

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Cool, moon rocks! We saw some in Huntsville back in January.

If I ever had any I forgot where I put them.

I'm in, as long as this isn't a trick to get help cleaning up the shop.

I think I have some scrap aluminum around here somewhere that I need to relocate so I can say I'm cleaning my shop.

Glen

You're first on the list! Any family or friends coming? I need to keep a count.

And no tricks, other than my juggling sharp knives. I plan to be a poor host and have a good time.

Andy,
I’m not sure where to start. I started reading this thread when it was only a few pages and somehow never followed it as it progressed to the saga it is today. I read your entire broom thread and enjoyed it enough to share it with my wife and she thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did but I never made the connection between this thread and the guy that makes the brooms.

You and I had a little side hijack in JB’s thread talking about TA’s in refineries and I finally made the connection between you and this thread. Well it has taken me almost 2 weeks to read it in its entirety. I didn’t skim it, I read every post and reply. By doing so, I feel that I have learned so much more about you and the old iron farm as well as so many of the other regular contributors to your thread. I have to tell you that I was so engrossed in your daily endeavors that I have not been able to keep up on any other threads that I have been following and now I have a lot of catching up to do.

I really appreciate the wisdom that you share and your approach to life. You have motivated me to look deeply into the things that I thought were important and maybe re-evaluate my priorities. I’m done feeding your non-existent ego, but I had to get that out.

Your “Bob’s” cousin lives with me and as someone that works mostly alone, I could not survive without him. Having Bob’s cousin (Bob’s cousin doesn’t have a name) is like having another person in the shop with me.

I’m enjoying your casting escapades, so keep them coming. I’m still in the process of building my first coal forge and I’m sure that will lead me to eventually follow in you casting footsteps.

There was only one dime in the dish on top of the machine and I didn’t want to be the old maid so I didn’t have a Coke. “Someone needs go get a shitload of dimes”

So now that I’m up to date, I just want to let you know that I’ll be watching what happens on the farm.

Thanks for taking the time! I greatly regret there only being one dime, the key is in the door I have 64 dimes and the machine holds about 80, so when all the dimes are inside it is time to reload (sorry JB), not that you asked.

BS (before skid steer) you are innocent and don't really see the value. *** (after skid steer) you never want to be without one again.

Forges are easy to build. Especially if you mimic a rivet forge using a truck brake drum (semi). After you blacksmith for a while you will know how big you want one. I need a bigger forge, and have one, I mean two, but I keep using my little rivet forge. I just don't want to take it out and need it before I get the replacement set up.

Glad you're watching me, maybe I'll toe the line and shirk some of the laziness...

Thanks for stopping in guys, and thanks for the comments. Comments make it interesting.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Good Saturday today!

I think I've told you guys that the feed mill gives me $0.35 if I bring back one of their sacks to be filled. $14 per ton adds up so I participate in recycling. Opened a sack this morning which made a couple more trips than I expect one to, if you look carefully this bag has been stitched five times on each end. It had two sets of stitches when it came new, so it has gone back 8 times I'll be rich!

I'm ready to cast a foundry furnace section today, and the recommended water makes a pretty dry mix. So I made a robust paddle mixer.

Those are 1/4"x1" paddles on a 1/2" shaft (old draw bolt from the mill)

And no DeWalt battery power for mixing heavy concrete, I dug out my old Makita 1/2" wrist buster with the grade 5 torque handle.

It is thick and creamy, the mixer exceeded my expectations

This was marginal. I figured I could mound the mud up in the middle. However as dry as it was it kept flowing trying to level itself. After working it for far too long I cut some slats and nailed them on at the ends. They held the mud, but I didn't have enough mud to fill the form, must not be much of an engineer. We're supposed to figure things out on paper not by trial and error. I calculated the volume required and used their density guidelines, then added 10% but still came up short. I won't be short next time I'll have to see how it looks when the form is off, this may be waste.

I got the tractor together and my man started framing exterior walls. You can see where the ceiling insulation is in the next room (it's where the header for the 12 ft door in the Skelly garage is poking through the wall). I'm going to insulate and sheetrock before putting up shelves.

The tractor hydraulic system was air locked when I tried to test it, no amount of moving levers would expel the air. So I took some pressure ports open and spilled a bunch of hydraulic fluid on the floor. Love that sawdust!

Thanks for stopping in!

I'm still taking names for 4-29-17 get together.

 

[don long]

Hi Andy
Just checking in tonight
I was several pages behind so I spent this evening reading up on your many subjects, New trucks, iron bridges, overhead cranes, black smithing and a little shop cleaning for a party??? Are you saying that I'm a party pro??
It's my sweet wife that makes our parties a hit. She's the real host. I just clean and set them up.
Is that Ford truck a 1 ton?? It doesn't look like the 40 ford p/u I traded for our greenhouse. My cousin had a 50 stude p/u but it melted in his garage fire a few years ago.
I'd love to attend your get together if I were in the area.
Maybe Drivesitfar will consider swinging by and picking me up on his way over.

I'll be checking in again next week

Don

 

[Kev442]

Hi Andy

Good thing I'm not a betting man. I would've bet the Dodge was fixed and off the four post in a week and the tractor would still be in pieces in 2018!
That's the best part about your cleanup, all the wild tangents you go haring off on.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, your exterior wall framing is progressing well by the looks of things..

The mezzanine floor should make for some extra storage and capitalise on the height you have..

Regards

 

[Farmall450]

Spring Cleaning!

So here's an idea. It's fun to meet other Garage Journal people, so if there's interest I'm thinking of hosting a Saturday get together at my shop. April 29th, Terlton, Oklahoma, USA.

I'll provide Coke from the machine and a pot of stew with parts of one of my dead cows in it.

We can do a little blacksmithing, make a broom or two, take a ride in the Studebaker (I guarantee it will be ready to roll by then), and talk shop. Tour the shop and see if I've been photoshopping my pictures. (Is it really that dirty?) Poke around the junk and look at the cows if there's any interest. And with a little encouragement I'll perform: juggling sharp knives. Maybe melt some cans or do a little sand casting. I might have a garage sale table with free stuff to good homes if I can find any extra stuff I don't have an immediate need for. Might even have a souvenir cow patty for each visitor.

Families welcome, of course, but obviously my shop is nowhere close to being child proof so children would have to have close supervision.

If there is interest, let me know. OK to respond on the thread but if we decide to go forward I will need an RSVP by PM so we will have enough food. If the weather is bad I'll have a spot cleaned out inside, but don't expect me to be a host and have the shop cleaned up. My name is not Don Long and I don't know how to host a party. But I can have a lot of friends over.

So let me know.

If I didn't live in IL and also didn't go to college I'd be down. Maybe in 4 years
Awesome of you to do, though.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Hi Andy
Just checking in tonight
I was several pages behind so I spent this evening reading up on your many subjects, New trucks, iron bridges, overhead cranes, black smithing and a little shop cleaning for a party??? Are you saying that I'm a party pro??
It's my sweet wife that makes our parties a hit. She's the real host. I just clean and set them up.
Is that Ford truck a 1 ton?? It doesn't look like the 40 ford p/u I traded for our greenhouse. My cousin had a 50 stude p/u but it melted in his garage fire a few years ago.
I'd love to attend your get together if I were in the area.
Maybe Drivesitfar will consider swinging by and picking me up on his way over.

I'll be checking in again next week

Don

If you're not a party pro I've never understood the terminology. Understood that you and your wife are a high octane team.

The title says 1940. The seller said some guys in a rat rod group told him the fenders were 38. It has split rims on the rear only and has 3/4 ton written on the title. A lot can happen to a vehicle in over 60 years, including replacing with the wrong year fenders after a collision. I've also read that in the thirties is was common to register a new car as the year it was sold instead of the year it was manufactured, or the manufacturer's designated model year. In Fords particularly, I know the pickups lagged the cars in design features, I remember the auto grill showing up the next year in the pickups. So there could have been a similar design misfit between 1/2 ton and heavier trucks.

Drives will probably come and get you if you need a lift. It will be great to see you guys!!

Hi Andy

Good thing I'm not a betting man. I would've bet the Dodge was fixed and off the four post in a week and the tractor would still be in pieces in 2018!
That's the best part about your cleanup, all the wild tangents you go haring off on.

You might be half right. The tractor looks like it needs a new pump. It could be 2018 if I don't hustle.

Unfortunately the truck was not needed to feed hay (would have been warmer) and I just didn't want to work on it. I did start today. It needs to get off the lift and back outside. I verified it has little or no flow from the lift pump. At 300,000 miles the lift pump is a prime suspect. I'm going to get to the pump and try feeding it's suction with a hose in a bucket to confirm something in the tank is not plugged.

Not wild tangents, just trying to have more than one project going at a time so I'm not stopped when one project hits a road block.

Andy, your exterior wall framing is progressing well by the looks of things..

The mezzanine floor should make for some extra storage and capitalise on the height you have..

Regards

He's about got it framed now. The mezzanine was one of my storage solutions prior to deciding to add on to the shop. After I had three sides of the main shop room insulated, and the insulator gave me the idea to put metal on the ceiling, I decided to proceed with the metal to help moderate the temperature. After that got started it was apparent that I should go ahead and insulate the room. The top three feet of the wall where the mezzanine is located contacts the attic of the Skelly garage, so it needed to be insulated. If I'm going to put up a wall to insulate I may as well build the mezzanine floor at the same time. I really like the way it looks. It will be remote storage but yet won't freeze or get too hot. It does need lights underneath, however. So my 50 lights were not enough.

If I didn't live in IL and also didn't go to college I'd be down. Maybe in 4 years
Awesome of you to do, though.

Drive all night Friday night, we'll have a good time Saturday, and you'll be home by noon Sunday, well rested with plenty of time to study.

See you in four years!

Thanks for visiting guys!

 

[oldironfarmer]

One side of each wall is now sheetrocked.

After confirming the tractor needs more work, my wife and I made a trip to Tulsa to buy insulation. Don't want to let the help run out of work!

Pulled the form off the furnace refractory section. Broke off one corner, but the thin section is probably OK. I may try to patch the broken corner.

The refractory is not for insulation, it is to protect the insulation from flame, contaminates, and physical damage.

The form needs some modification to avoid the thin section so maybe I'll do that and pour another section tomorrow. Four sections and assembly can begin.

Thanks for looking in!

 

[BBChevro]

Wow Andy, you need to slow down a bit, I'm struggling to keep up with your thread.

Great score with the trucks, the Ford is nice but I've had a crush on those Studebaker pick ups since watching the old movie "Hot Rod" (not the recent comedy) - the main character's side kick had one.
The star of the show was the'41 Willy's of course, but the Stude was in lots of scenes - often in the background like this pic that I googled...
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Great work on the mezzanine and the refractory section.

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[west_perf]

Andy - Your get-together sounds fun. If I wasn't worried about getting blown away by one of those spring Oklahoman twisters, I'd jump in my clown car and take a gander up that way to check out the fixings and shop.

Anyways nice score on the trucks. You can get timeWarp to throw an EcoBoost into that Ford for you.

 

[Grumblebum]

I know a guy that just got a hearse out of his shop. He might have room for a couple new projects. There is a lift, so they can be stacked.

I need more Saturday's to keep up Andy.

Cheers GB.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Wow Andy, you need to slow down a bit, I'm struggling to keep up with your thread.

Great score with the trucks, the Ford is nice but I've had a crush on those Studebaker pick ups since watching the old movie "Hot Rod" (not the recent comedy) - the main character's side kick had one.
The star of the show was the'41 Willy's of course, but the Stude was in lots of scenes - often in the background like this pic that I googled...
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Great work on the mezzanine and the refractory section.

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I've wanted a 41 Willys or 41 Ford Coupe at least since I was four years old. You can't have everything. But I really am trying...

Thanks for the kind words!

Andy - Your get-together sounds fun. If I wasn't worried about getting blown away by one of those spring Oklahoman twisters, I'd jump in my clown car and take a gander up that way to check out the fixings and shop.

Anyways nice score on the trucks. You can get timeWarp to throw an EcoBoost into that Ford for you.

Tornadoes are like cancer, they get just a few people here and there. I've never actually seen one live. Hurricanes, on the other hand, and earthquakes (the scourge of the other coast) get everybody. I'd much rather take my chances with twisters.

If the flathead will run it will get to stay, even though I may slop some bright paint and new wheels on it. The split rims are pretty cool, though.

I know a guy that just got a hearse out of his shop. He might have room for a couple new projects. There is a lift, so they can be stacked.

I need more Saturday's to keep up Andy.

Cheers GB.

Shop space is like a vacuum, something surely has already filled it.

I'm glad somebody is trying to keep me up Every time I stop I go to sleep. Drives my wife crazy.

Thanks for commenting, guys!

 

[jimreed2160]

Q--What does it mean when there is empty space in a shop?

A--Shop's not full. Need more stuff.

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: I'm sorry to say i won't be driving down to your place this year, but maybe next year might be doable and if i do happen to swing by Don's place to give him a ride i hope he lets me choose which car or truck we can drive to your place. best of luck with this year's little get together and maybe have each member bring something rusty, old or cool to add to your pile of gems? like a piece of their local bridge or something maybe a bit smaller. trades an option since rumor has it you don't SELL ANYTHING?

loving all the work you've been doing inside the shop.

Jim: i guess you haven't looked outside Andy's shop at all those tractors and cars and trucks he needs to park inside? you are too funny and i bet before next Sunday rolls around he'll have bought something else for his Foundry, broom business, shops, acreage or for his cows. just sitting in my chair every morning and tuning in to see what his adventures turn up.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Q--What does it mean when there is empty space in a shop?

A--Shop's not full. Need more stuff.

Stuff! More stuff Need more stuff!!

ANDY: I'm sorry to say i won't be driving down to your place this year, but maybe next year might be doable and if i do happen to swing by Don's place to give him a ride i hope he lets me choose which car or truck we can drive to your place. best of luck with this year's little get together and maybe have each member bring something rusty, old or cool to add to your pile of gems? like a piece of their local bridge or something maybe a bit smaller. trades an option since rumor has it you don't SELL ANYTHING?

loving all the work you've been doing inside the shop.

Jim: i guess you haven't looked outside Andy's shop at all those tractors and cars and trucks he needs to park inside? you are too funny and i bet before next Sunday rolls around he'll have bought something else for his Foundry, broom business, shops, acreage or for his cows. just sitting in my chair every morning and tuning in to see what his adventures turn up.

Drivesitalittleways: Thanks for stopping in!

Like I said in my invitation, I plan to have a "garage sale" table with stuff to give away.

Hmmm, I just buy the minimum to get by...

Would be great if you could make it next year!

Thanks for stopping in, guys!

 

[oldironfarmer]

My hired man took the day off, so I cleaned a spot for the scaffold to insulate and sheetrock this wall. I call it clean...

Then I put some clamping blocks on the refractory form and reassembled it. Caulked the joints so it should be ready to pour tomorrow.

It's going to take all the little clamps I have. I also color coded the corners to avoid mis-assembly. It took longer than it should to get it right this time

Another small step!

Thanks for looking in!

 

[CNGsaves]

I'm spying those steel "spare parts" from bridge and thinking they would make a bitchin' carport frame that could have an engine hoist trolley, if you used a sturdy I-beam across !!

 

[RickP]

My hired man took the day off, so I cleaned a spot for the scaffold to insulate and sheetrock this wall. I call it clean...

Looks clean to me! My garage is a lot more cluttered than that.

I've been following along, but haven't posted before. Nice job on building a mezzanine for your new shelves -- it's nice to have the ceiling height to be able to do that.

 

[oldironfarmer]

I'm spying those steel "spare parts" from bridge and thinking they would make a bitchin' carport frame that could have an engine hoist trolley, if you used a sturdy I-beam across !!

When I was adding on I cracked one 5x5 post backing into it with the Bobcat. I thought about removing that column and installing one of the lattice work beams as columns on each end of the opening, with a 20 ft long beam between to give me a large opening between bays. The concrete guys were ready before I got around to doing that so I just left the column braced with 2x6's and haven't looked back. But they would have looked cool as columns. Carport idea is a good one. Time is not up yet!

Looks clean to me! My garage is a lot more cluttered than that.

I've been following along, but haven't posted before. Nice job on building a mezzanine for your new shelves -- it's nice to have the ceiling height to be able to do that.

Thanks for the visit and comment! I like a 16 ft ceiling. It is rarely too high (just when replacing bulbs). That empty space above storage has bugged me for some time. Now we get to see whether I can really utilize it. The other side could provide a 20 ft long mezzanine as well. But not right now

 

[jbmatth]

I know a guy that just got a hearse out of his shop. He might have room for a couple new projects. There is a lift, so they can be stacked.

I need more Saturday's to keep up Andy.

Cheers GB.

There is always room in the W.H.H.H. for one of your cars Andy, you know just to help you out. Now I can't guarantee how long it would take for me to get it in working order once it arrives. I also couldn't guarantee how long it would stay working if you dropped it off that way.

I will make it to your get together however I'll be a bit late, my daughter has a soccer game that won't be over until 11:30. I'll ask if they want to join and let you know in a PM.

I was jealous of your bus, Bob, broom machine, etc. but now that I know you have a life size bridge erector set I don't think there is anything left that can top that random bit of tool guy gold.
JB

 

[madoc1]

just had to google your ford p/u cause i love it. it turns out to be a one ton model, and by the pics they sure clean up well. would certainly make a great feed hauler.

 

[oldironfarmer]

There is always room in the W.H.H.H. for one of your cars Andy, you know just to help you out. Now I can't guarantee how long it would take for me to get it in working order once it arrives. I also couldn't guarantee how long it would stay working if you dropped it off that way.

I will make it to your get together however I'll be a bit late, my daughter has a soccer game that won't be over until 11:30. I'll ask if they want to join and let you know in a PM.

I was jealous of your bus, Bob, broom machine, etc. but now that I know you have a life size bridge erector set I don't think there is anything left that can top that random bit of tool guy gold.
JB

My only requirement when loaning our a car is that it gets regular exercise. That's not usually a problem...

It look like there will only be a few of us on the 29th so come on when you can. Hope you can bring your family.

You seem to use the "B" word when addressing me "bus, Bob, broom, blacksmith, bridge, b-foundry"

Wow! If I'd known the bridge would be such a hit I would have bragged about it sooner. But it is really a rusty pile of iron any sane person would say I wasted my time and money hauling it home.

just had to google your ford p/u cause i love it. it turns out to be a one ton model, and by the pics they sure clean up well. would certainly make a great feed hauler.

I haven't done any searching. Are you confident it is a one ton? I sure hope so, that would be right down my line. I need to get the shop finished so I can start on some cars. You have whetted my interest.

Thanks for the visits guys!

 

[oldironfarmer]

I poured #2 furnace panel today. Adding the slats as I filled it up did great. Full thickness throughout.

I just couldn't resist taking the forms off. The form for the groove didn't want to come off, and I tapped on it some, I really hope I didn't fracture the soft refractory Just a little too eager doing exciting stuff.

Studied the Cummins for a while, pulled out the driver's side battery and the air intake and got a little more access. Then saw I had to pull the starter. Duh, now there is good access from the bottom.

I had that starter off about 15 years ago. Totally unfamiliar. I know I removed it, but could not remember anything except the copper disc inside the solenoid was the culprit making it not engage every time, just a click. The shop I took it to said to just flip it around and it's good for another life. Starter is working fine but it may warrant a new copper disc. Of course I try to never fix something just because it is convenient. It may last a lifetime.

So here's the lift pump. The only hard part will be disconnecting the outlet line to the filter above. It may have to come off the filter. I don't know how to change the filter, you just cannot get to it without taking off the starter and lift pump, best I can tell. So it gets a new filter. I bought one years and years ago but I don't think I ever installed it. I tried a couple of times and gave up. So maybe 300,000 miles on a fuel filter could be my problem.

My helper showed up and got the west wall insulated and rocked. Man I love good help. And he apologizes for being so slow!

He got the scaffold staged for the north wall. I need to get some more sheetrock, looks like I'm six sheets shy

It sure makes the room look smaller when it gets boxed in. But We're adding 160 sq ft. And we need more lights!! Lights are really pretty cheap. And they don't cost anything else to operate if you don't use them. And if you do use them the cost of good light is well worth it. I'm thinking one four foot light in each bay with it's own switch. Also considering LED on a motion detector. Walk into a covered bay and a light comes on.

I'm really getting excited about having all phases of the shop finally finished. The only thing I might add now is more shelving in the mezzanine area over the wood shop. And maybe some concrete in front of the overhead doors. When I get the shop finished I need to start looking for some projects to do in it.

I did get prices for the big overhead door. More than I expected, but it will be 15 ft wide by 14 ft high. That is a big door. I've decided to go with a panel garage door but with a chain fall operator for precise positioning of the door. I don't think I want a power opener. Just never been a big fan of them.

Thank goodness it's Saturday tomorrow!!

 

[madoc1]

no, i am not positive. it could be a 3/4 ton.

jim

 

[krcoomer]

Did I read it right that you got 300K miles on the original fuel filter? My FIL carries a filter for his Powerstroke and has changed it in a rest stop before when he got some watery diesel on the road. Is there a separate filter for water on the Dodges?

 

[jbmatth]

300,000 miles on a diesel fuel filter! According to what I've read on my Duramax you are supposed to change them with every oil change ~8,000 miles give or take. The Cummins 5.9 interval is longer according to the maintenance schedule at 12,000 to 15,000 miles if it is a 12v or 24v. I'd say you got your money's worth out of it.

Even if the family can't make it or doesn't like stew and awesome vehicles/tractors I'll still make it and bring some aluminum castings I removed from the engine I'm tearing down.
JB

 

[oldironfarmer]

no, i am not positive. it could be a 3/4 ton.

jim

I'm thinking the headlights outside the fenders is what was making the other guys think this was not a 40, but the chart shows 3/4 ton and up are old style.

I need to dig around and see if I can find any other indicators, like leaf spring count. Only having split rims on the rear seems strange, but every wheel has a hubcap.

Thanks for the information.

Did I read it right that you got 300K miles on the original fuel filter? My FIL carries a filter for his Powerstroke and has changed it in a rest stop before when he got some watery diesel on the road. Is there a separate filter for water on the Dodges?

Well, it is a Cummins. And there is a water alarm and drain on the bottom of the filter. I have drained it a few times over the years.

But my memory is too bad to remember whether someone else may have changed it. It will be interesting to see the words on the filter. I can tell you it is stuck tight.

300,000 miles on a diesel fuel filter! According to what I've read on my Duramax you are supposed to change them with every oil change ~8,000 miles give or take. The Cummins 5.9 interval is longer according to the maintenance schedule at 12,000 to 15,000 miles if it is a 12v or 24v. I'd say you got your money's worth out of it.

Even if the family can't make it or doesn't like stew and awesome vehicles/tractors I'll still make it and bring some aluminum castings I removed from the engine I'm tearing down.
JB

Hmmm, Cummins are truck engines and Powerstroke and Duramax are automotive engines. Do I still get the cast aluminum?

I would not swear it has not been changed, just that I tried and couldn't, I don't think. I can't find the spare filter I bought either, so maybe I did change it but I know I have not had the master brake cylinder off and can't see how it can come out from the top.

I'm just a guy with a grease gun too, but, hey, greasing equipment is 80% of the way to maintenance.

A word about my old Dodge. I bought it new in December of 93. We had gone to pick up lumber in a truck with no tail lights (had brake lights) and my wife was after me to get a new truck so we went and looked. We finally wound up at a Dodge dealer, I really liked the retro style of the new design. And wanted a Cummins. We negotiated until after dark and my wife, in her cagey way of negotiating, told the salesman we had to buy it because we had no tail lights. I told him I had driven home with red plastic over a flashlight before so pay no attention to her.

It's been a good truck. Early failure of the injector pump at 40,000 miles completely covered under warranty. Three transmissions and a rebuild on the axle about 280,000. One new thermostat and now the power steering pump is bad. Replaced fuel lines. Three sets of batteries and oil changes. Everything else is factory: water pump, generator, radiator, turbo, etc. It's been a good truck. But I repeat myself.

 

[BUGTHUG]

On the mezzanine , maybe get or make a ladder like in the old General stores that slide on a track all the way from end to end.

 

[oldironfarmer]

I've thought about a library style ladder. Right now I'm going to wait until I get the crane up and in place. There is access from the attic beyond so it can still be used. Being four feet wide there is walk room next to storage, it just needs handrails.

Thanks for stopping in!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Pulled my second furnace section out of the mold today. Broke a piece off the groove because I can't control my impatience. Still serviceable, and they fit together well.

In retrospect the tongue could be narrower to make the groove lips thicker. But I like the fit. The idea is to limit flame penetration while allowing expansion.

And the fuel filter came off the old Dodge. Can't tell how old it is, no date codes, but it is Mopar. Fluid which came out was clear and clean through the drain.

Removing the filter was a tough job. I may try to remove the master cylinder if I have to do it again.

A pretty good Saturday!

 

[egnorant]

I finally took the time to catch up on your posts. Impressed! Been moving projects myself and have trashed and cleaned the shop a couple of times with no real changes but May is planned for good stuff.

My brother got to talking with a fellow in Tulsa about a car and we may be roadtripping that way soon and I thought of inflicting/visiting just to OOOH an AAAHH at stuff. I saw the post about the April 29th party but I have my big swap meet at Texas Motor Speedway that weekend.

Brother gets excited about the aluminum casting and wants to set up his own foundry. He won a bunch of awards in High School for his aluminum work and has "Ideas".

I saw where you bought a couple of bridges and my sister-in-law scoffed and said she would kill us if we ever brought home a bridge! We had to remind her of the time we drug home a water slide and a train from an old amusement park.

If I do head that way I will approve any "gifts" that may arrive with me...have 3 possibles already picked out. Our road trips tend to be wildly unplanned events that can be expected from a couple of guys with extra time, extra money, an empty trailer and no adult supervision.

Bruce

 

[jbmatth]

Hmmm, Cummins are truck engines and Powerstroke and Duramax are automotive engines. Do I still get the cast aluminum?

I'm just a guy with a grease gun too, but, hey, greasing equipment is 80% of the way to maintenance.

A word about my old Dodge. I bought it new in December of 93. We had gone to pick up lumber in a truck with no tail lights (had brake lights) and my wife was after me to get a new truck so we went and looked. We finally wound up at a Dodge dealer, I really liked the retro style of the new design. And wanted a Cummins. We negotiated until after dark and my wife, in her cagey way of negotiating, told the salesman we had to buy it because we had no tail lights. I told him I had driven home with red plastic over a flashlight before so pay no attention to her.

It's been a good truck. Early failure of the injector pump at 40,000 miles completely covered under warranty. Three transmissions and a rebuild on the axle about 280,000. One new thermostat and now the power steering pump is bad. Replaced fuel lines. Three sets of batteries and oil changes. Everything else is factory: water pump, generator, radiator, turbo, etc. It's been a good truck. But I repeat myself.

Andy,
There is no denying the Cummins is a great engine, but wow they command a premium in the used market! Maybe I'm just getting old but don't like the thought of having to spend $10,000 on a 15 year old truck with 300,000 miles, to me that should be a $3-4,000 vehicle but I guess the market is what it is.

I NEVER(Sarcasm represented by italics.) would have guessed you'd have replace a transmission on a Dodge. Keep after it and you will have the truck running by the BBQ on the 29th and just under 4 months no less. I have no room to talk.

Our road trips tend to be wildly unplanned events that can be expected from a couple of guys with extra time, extra money, an empty trailer and no adult supervision.
Bruce

I love that line Bruce, I've been there a few times myself and it really is a fun way to travel, that is how I've brought a few things home this past year including my '57 and a truck bed for a truck I don't even own.
JB